Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:43:02 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #407 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2000 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Day of Champions (Bill Freiburger) 2. Kelly Worden Seminar (Natural Spirit Int'l) 3. Pet the doggie please (Marc Denny) 4. RE: Day of Champions (Karen Pence) 5. RE: Pet the doggie please (Karen Pence) 6. Largo/Corto (Magtutudlo) 7. Day of Champions Tournament Results. (chanoaim@bellsouth.net) 8. RE: Day of Champions Tournament Results. (Karen Pence) 9. Re: Pet the doggie please (WoodyTX) 10. RE: Pet the doggie please (Michael Mason) 11. Re: Pet the doggie please (WoodyTX) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 19:50:50 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Freiburger To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Day of Champions Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Karen, Was there any Video shot of this event? If not, some thought about having some at the next tournament? Bill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Natural Spirit Int'l" To: "e-digest" Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 20:55:43 -0800 Organization: Natural Spirit Int'l, Inc. Subject: [Eskrima] Kelly Worden Seminar Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I will be conducting a seminar at the House Of Champions 17228 Saticoy St. Van Nuys California this coming weekend November 13th and 14th Curriculum includes: Single and Double stick * Knife* Impact Kerambit* Sibat Long Pole Staff * Chi Sau to Lock Flow* Information call:818-996-7180 www.houseofchampions.com or kellysworden@comcast.net --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:58:10 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Pet the doggie please Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof Kim: In her report on Cold Steel's tournament Karen wrote: > these fights. With that, everyone could also stay friends at the end of the > day. It would put a wag in my tail if you would be so kind as to acknowledge that "Friends at the end of the day" is our phrase , , , TIA Crafty Dog --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Karen Pence" To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Day of Champions Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:19:49 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Yes there was video shot. You can purchase at www.martialway.net. I'm not sure if the footage from this tournament has been edited and is posted for sale yet, but I know there is footage for sale from the past 2 tournaments that we hosted. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Bill Freiburger [mailto:bfreiburg@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:51 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Day of Champions Karen, Was there any Video shot of this event? If not, some thought about having some at the next tournament? Bill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Karen Pence" To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Pet the doggie please Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:32:34 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I would love to acknowledge that, but I didn't write this, I just was asked to post it. I will forward your message on to Larry St. Clair and let him know. -----Original Message----- From: Marc Denny [mailto:craftydog@dogbrothers.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:58 AM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Pet the doggie please Woof Kim: In her report on Cold Steel's tournament Karen wrote: > these fights. With that, everyone could also stay friends at the end of the > day. It would put a wag in my tail if you would be so kind as to acknowledge that "Friends at the end of the day" is our phrase , , , TIA Crafty Dog _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Magtutudlo" To: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:36:21 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Largo/Corto Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Gat Puno Abon, Here are some of my answers... "On your first question about the two equally Largo mano player, tall and short, the taller have advantage? If this is the scenario now the game start from this, who is faster, who is good in timing, who would defeat in lower position to the highest peak position. Tall doesn't make me believed have advantage in Largo Mano fighting range. I would put my word and guts on that 100%" 1.. My thoughts are not a question of who is faster and weaker. I did say that "similar" abilities as you - means also faster and almost equally the same. Because not all tall people are slower or can be easily taken down with smaller opponents. A good perception about playing a taller opponents also will give positive ideas to yourself but we have different ways of thinking. different brains and structures and these makes all people unique (as yourself) and sometimes advantages and disadvantages are part of it. "Now this second post, I would be stupid to play basketball in tall person. Becaused I am not a basketball player first of all. I am a Eskrimador, I would fight the Basket ball player in anytime with stick or without a stick if they attack me. Now I put my opinion and the theory of the Laguna Largo Mano on this thread, to give you and other new thing to think, not to put limitation to your skill. " 2.. I am not saying that you have to play basketball with taller person, please don't take it literally. I'm only stating principles of application - basketball is not the center of subject at hand but certain points limitation of playing a taller and shorter person. I'm sure that your skills are exceptional when it comes to Eskrima. Hindi naman ako nagsasabing makipaglaro ka ng Arnis sa basketbolero - walang punto ang magawa sa makipaglaro ka sa walang alam na arnis. - not also saying that you have to fight a basketball player with arnis sticks because there is no point on playing one that doesn't have any knowledge of Arnis. Only principles of application not factual. "Its becaused he is tall, he can automatically take advantage of the lenght of his arms. Non-sense I am not affraid to fight the taller person, becaused I know my weapon is is the equalizer, now if you still not believed in my theory is fine. Our opinion is not necessary for you practice what you believed. Just practice what you know and hopefully that would help you to survived in time you need them. I wish you good luck and enjoy training." 3.. Positive thinking is one way of getting the job done. Not doubt about that! Argumentatively speaking, taller opponents have other ways fighting smaller opponents and again I'm not questioning your abilities but with giving a simple perspective thoughts. Your confidence is not a question too. but what my late grandfather taught me to think ways to fight and be not overconfident about your skills because this will be your downfall. He maybe right or wrong but this changed my whole perspective in life. "I would not put the whole theory on the digest, to convince you.. I will show it to you and the rest of the curious practitioner what we are talking about. Salamat and I understand you perfectly, I just cannot make everyone please.. If you got more questioned about basketball, I cant answer you on that.. keep it simple the topic is Eskrima, throw me a question in FMA.. " 4.. Why not? If these theories are applicable and easily done, why hold back your? Lahat naman tayong mga Pilipino mahilig at gustong malaman kong anong ginawa sa iba (so sorry about this.). Again sir, basketball playing is not the main question if you know it or not, I'm only stating a theory about tall and small opponents. My questions are as simple as I can relate and those questions are fairly for the sake of FMA practitioners. Thanks for your time in addressing my post. Respectfully, Bobby --__--__-- Message: 7 From: To: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:52:40 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Day of Champions Tournament Results. Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sounds like a good time was had by all. Is there a video/dvd available that recaps the days events and matches. I'd be interested in seeing it. Please advise. Guro Glenn Harris Garimot System USA - Miami, Fl --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Karen Pence" To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Day of Champions Tournament Results. Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:03:15 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Go to www.martialway.com The videos from the last 2 tournaments can currently be purchased on there, the video from this tournament will be available in the near future. I believe that Larry has the footage about half way edited. Karen -----Original Message----- From: chanoaim@bellsouth.net [mailto:chanoaim@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:53 AM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Day of Champions Tournament Results. Sounds like a good time was had by all. Is there a video/dvd available that recaps the days events and matches. I'd be interested in seeing it. Please advise. Guro Glenn Harris Garimot System USA - Miami, Fl _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:27:13 -0600 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Pet the doggie please Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Crafty Dog, I was the lead judge for the tournament, and I gave the "fighter's briefing". I finished the talk by stating, "The Dog Brothers have a rule: that everyone remains friends at the end of the day. I think they've got the right idea, and I don't want this to turn into an opportunity to just beat the tar out of your opponent. This competition is about control: Control of your weapon, control of the ring, and (most importantly) control of yourself." So the original was credited, if not the posting. *Salute* By the way, we had a great time. Once again, I can unequivocally state that judging is far more difficult than fighting (although the trainup is easier). We saw a number of styles and approaches, and more than a little confusion once the action hit the ground. Everyone had a good time, and we gave away TONS of prizes. Every fighter got a meal, a t-shirt, and a "swag bag" of goodies; a big chunk of the audience received door prizes. On top of that, the top three fighters in each category got a medal and a prize. Prizes included two Cold Steel Kobun sheath knives and a Ron Balicki Jeet Kun Do DVD set. WoodyTX On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:58:10 -0800, Marc Denny wrote: > Woof Kim: > > In her report on Cold Steel's tournament Karen wrote: > > > these fights. With that, everyone could also stay friends at the end of > the > > day. > > It would put a wag in my tail if you would be so kind as to acknowledge that > "Friends at the end of the day" is our phrase , , , > > TIA > Crafty Dog > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Michael Mason" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Pet the doggie please Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:00:57 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Shirley ;-) this is a joke. Who would think that they could copyright a phrase so commonly used throughout the ma community. M. M. Mason >I would love to acknowledge that, but I didn't write this, I just was asked >to post it. I will forward your message on to Larry St. Clair and let him >know. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Marc Denny [mailto:craftydog@dogbrothers.com] >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:58 AM >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] Pet the doggie please > >Woof Kim: > >In her report on Cold Steel's tournament Karen wrote: > > > these fights. With that, everyone could also stay friends at the end of >the > > day. > >It would put a wag in my tail if you would be so kind as to acknowledge >that >"Friends at the end of the day" is our phrase , , , > >TIA >Crafty Dog --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:53:21 -0600 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Pet the doggie please Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright, no; proper credit, yes. ...and don't call me Shirley. :-P WoodyTX On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:00:57 -0500, Michael Mason wrote: > Shirley ;-) this is a joke. Who would think that they could copyright a > phrase so commonly used throughout the ma community. > > M. M. Mason > > > > > >I would love to acknowledge that, but I didn't write this, I just was asked > >to post it. I will forward your message on to Larry St. Clair and let him > >know. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Marc Denny [mailto:craftydog@dogbrothers.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:58 AM > >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > >Subject: [Eskrima] Pet the doggie please > > > >Woof Kim: > > > >In her report on Cold Steel's tournament Karen wrote: > > > > > these fights. With that, everyone could also stay friends at the end of > >the > > > day. > > > >It would put a wag in my tail if you would be so kind as to acknowledge > >that > >"Friends at the end of the day" is our phrase , , , > > > >TIA > >Crafty Dog > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest