Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:25:08 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #420 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Re: Eskrima for Self Defense (jmarana@verizon.net) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "GES" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Filipino Blade clinic Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:41:08 -0800 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Where's exactly is the school & what time. Is there a website for this? G ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Hansen To: Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:35 AM Subject: [Eskrima] Filipino Blade clinic > Is anyone going to the blade clinic this Saturday the 20th? It is in San Jose with Cecil Quirino, at Suri Jason Inay's school. I think the topic is blades of the northern phillipines. > > greg > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Trevor Sayle" To: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:58:19 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Gun rights? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I just wanted to point out one thing against incarcerating people for life... This is like double taxation in my opinion, in that when a criminal does harm to a law abiding citizen he also subsequently does harm to all the wallets of the citizens' because of the cost to incarcerate said criminal. By adopting more drastic punishments within the criminal justice system you reduce the amount of criminals either by removing them or by deterring them by force. This'll never happen in a 'civilized' soceity because we are 'above that'. Now back to FMA. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Ross Whitty" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:03:21 +1100 Subject: [Eskrima] Balintawak Gif at another site Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi, It seems like a lot of people like John Russell's hard work from his Visayan Martial Arts site. Go to: http://www.arnisdeleon.com/links.htm or http://www.arnisdeleon.com/History.htm etc, etc, Then go to: http:visayanmartialarts.com to see the Balintawak gif that has been up for several years now. This is written on the page "http://www.arnisdeleon.com/index.html" Grandmaster / E-Mail: Anding de Leon Director of IADLF / E-Mail: T.C. Jones Webmaster / E-Mail: Adrian de Leon “Arnis de Leon” and the “International Arnis de Leon Federation” along with all logos and artwork are not to be used or reproduced without written authorization from the IADLF. I have already talked to John and he says he knows nothing about these people. Why can't they practice what they preach? Thank you, Ross. _________________________________________________________________ Check Hoyts movie times via SMS: http://hoyts.ninemsn.com.au/session/sms_sessiontimes.asp --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Julian Gilmour" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:51:20 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Gunlaws Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Re: my post on transatlantic gunlaws Just a couple of quick points as we should move on: I believe that the subject for discussion was invited. I stated in my post that I didn’t expect my views would change anyone’s mind, I was merely trying to explain how some Brits view the subject. (Not all – Hello Mr Broster!). Pat Davies and a few others have mentioned the perspective issue, and this IS the issue. I believe the phrase goes… “Your truth is not my truth, my truth is not yours” Peace and respect to all on the list Julian --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Julian Gilmour" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:55:52 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Downloads Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all Any suggestions on where to download good panantukan MPEGS? Thanks in advance Julian --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Aaron Alejandro" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Downloads Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:02:00 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Julian, Check out the link below for a great Panantukan video. Sorry not an mpeg, but great material. Guro Harley Elmore is taping the next in the Lacoste/Inosanto Kali series this weekend on Double Stick. http://www.warriorswaytx.com/modules.php?name=Warriors&page=videos.htm Aaron Alejandro www.execselfdefense.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Gilmour" To: Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:55 AM Subject: [Eskrima] Downloads > Hi all > > Any suggestions on where to download good panantukan MPEGS? > > Thanks in advance > > Julian > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:36:22 -0800 (PST) From: DG Youpa To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Eskrima for Self Defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have a question about training for self defense. I realize this will be difficult to answer because of all the factors involved, but I'll give it a try. I've done some martial arts training off and on over the years, since the early 1980's, and I'm a novice in eskrima. I've been doing eskrima for approximately two years now. Most of my eskrima training has been limited to drills and techniques, including angles of attack, footwork, etc. I also did a little sparring with a previous instructor, but have not done any sparring or full speed scenarios recently. Given that I'm primarily interested in self/family defense (I also really enjoy the training), and even though it's not likely, I could find myself in a violent situation tomorrow, should I somehow supplement my training? And should I beware of possible misconceptions that I may have acquired through my limited experience with eskrima? I've always been confident in my ability to handle most situations but, then again, nobody has ever attacked me with a weapon. So what else should I be doing to better prepare myself for survival in a (unlikely) violent encounter? Hope this makes sense to somebody. Thanks, Dan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "abreton@juno.com" Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:05:07 GMT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Downloads Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have to second Aaron's recommendation. The video's excellent, and Harley's a great guy to boot. Rick Faye also has video and book - again, not MPEG but good stuff. Steve Grody's series on Kali empty hand is great. And finally, you can go to the source for all those: Guru I's video series (the latest one or the tortoise ones). If anyone has any other suggestions on Panantukan video, I'd like to be included on the emails. Andy -- "Aaron Alejandro" wrote: Julian, Check out the link below for a great Panantukan video. Sorry not an mpeg, but great material. Guro Harley Elmore is taping the next in the Lacoste/Inosanto Kali series this weekend on Double Stick. http://www.warriorswaytx.com/modules.php?name=Warriors&page=videos.htm Aaron Alejandro www.execselfdefense.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Gilmour" To: Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:55 AM Subject: [Eskrima] Downloads > Hi all > > Any suggestions on where to download good panantukan MPEGS? > > Thanks in advance > > Julian > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Magtutudlo" To: Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:30:08 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Info Needed...TY Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Recently I've been looking for members or formerly members of BARAW-SA-SUGBU / BARAW-SUGBU (Knife of Cebu). Or anyone that I can reach - i.e. email address, phone numbers and/or websites. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Bobby --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Aaron - Executive Self Defense" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Eskrima for Self Defense Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:01:17 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dan, You mentioned some sparring. Was this with sticks? If so, that's great, but you should try to find ways to expand your training and strategies. I teach an Executive Self-Defense group in Austin, Texas and we are constantly challenging our mental capacities as much as our physical ones. For example, when you mentioned protection for your family -- great idea. When at your home, look around. What weapons are within two-steps of any position in your home? Candles, brushes, pens, pencils, glasses, lamps, chairs, the list could go on and on. With this in mind, I asked the question earlier about sticks. Don't handicap yourself by training one length weapon or strategy. Also, assume there may come a time you won't have a weapon -- empty hand training will come into play. Or, you are using a weapon that is more effective in close range than long range. The footwork training and sectoring you've learned to date will be very helpful and will build these skills. I believe awareness and an effective strategy are the most important elements to protection. First, my training group is professionals and is called Executive Self-Defense. Professional folks who are interested in protecting themselves and their families on the road or at home. I recently picked up a new student, who after visiting my website, thought we might be a little less intense for what he wanted. He quickly found out that what's promoted on the site is much different from the training itself -- we are much more intense. Simply put, we use self-defense in our title, but it is only that. In reality, we are training to be on the offensive. I do not want to be a "receiver" and defend anyone's attack. I want to move into the role of "the feeder", the aggresor, let them defend my attack. Here's another way of thinking of it. Today at lunch what did you think about, what did you do, what did your family do, what did they talk about? Probably about things going on at home and in their respective lives. At the same time, what was the "bad guy" thinking about? Simply a strategy to hurt, steal or take from another individual something of value. As the "bad guy" plays out his scenario, over and over, again in his head, he is probably not thinking about the guy, wife, young person who will refuse to become his victim. A person trained so that their resolve is not to defend, but attack. Now, take this mentality and find some arts to compliment it. The FMAs are awesome at one uping the other guy. You're on the right track to learn. I wish you the best and applaud your passion to protect those you love. Respectfully, Aaron Alejandro www.execselfdefense.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "DG Youpa" To: Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: [Eskrima] Eskrima for Self Defense >I have a question about training for self defense. I > realize this will be difficult to answer because of > all the factors involved, but I'll give it a try. I've > done some martial arts training off and on over the > years, since the early 1980's, and I'm a novice in > eskrima. I've been doing eskrima for approximately two > years now. Most of my eskrima training has been > limited to drills and techniques, including angles of > attack, footwork, etc. I also did a little sparring > with a previous instructor, but have not done any > sparring or full speed scenarios recently. > > Given that I'm primarily interested in self/family > defense (I also really enjoy the training), and even > though it's not likely, I could find myself in a > violent situation tomorrow, should I somehow > supplement my training? And should I beware of > possible misconceptions that I may have acquired > through my limited experience with eskrima? > > I've always been confident in my ability to handle > most situations but, then again, nobody has ever > attacked me with a weapon. So what else should I be > doing to better prepare myself for survival in a > (unlikely) violent encounter? > > Hope this makes sense to somebody. > > Thanks, > Dan > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 11 From: To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Eskrima for Self Defense Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:43:48 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dan, I think you bring up some great points, and thinking critically about your training is a sign that you are not stagnant in your personal evolution. From my own experience I would say there are a few things to keep in mind. My first point is concerning drills. While some may criticize drills, I do believe the value in them is to develop certain motor movements. What you should remember however is that a drill is a drill, and the goal of the drill to "graduate" from it so you can implement the movement(s) of the drill without its structured format. My second point is making sure you are intentional with everything you do. If you are practicing footwork (triangles, sidesteps, etc.) once you have mastered the gross motor movement then perform the movement with true intent. You don't necessarily have to go fast or hard, but never forget what each and every single movement is for. This is especially true for striking patterns. If your partner is supposed to practice slipping a punch and moving to the outside, then make sure you are throwing your punch at him/her, and not setting the drill up for him/her. In Sayoc Kali one of my conscious goals each class is to actually follow through with my strikes and make sure my targeting is accurate. That intent will make a world of difference. As far as supplementing your training, I would wholeheartedly agree with Aaron. Situational awareness and cross-training with other strategies and tactics is essential. Could you do your stick drills on the ground on your back? What about in your car or in a doorway? Now, if you just want to get better at eskrima itself the best thing to do is practice eskrima. Something I constantly check myself on is balance in my training. I initially started lifting weights and doing cardio to increase my FMA performance, but I soon realized I was hitting the gym for up to two hours a day and some days not even practicing my FMA. Intention is everything. I think I could probably ramble on for much much more but I think I hit the main points I wanted to get across. Joe Inosanto Blend FMA Sayoc Kali San Miguel/Doce Pares > > From: DG Youpa > Date: 2004/11/19 Fri AM 11:36:22 CST > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Subject: [Eskrima] Eskrima for Self Defense > > I have a question about training for self defense. I > realize this will be difficult to answer because of > all the factors involved, but I'll give it a try. I've > done some martial arts training off and on over the > years, since the early 1980's, and I'm a novice in > eskrima. I've been doing eskrima for approximately two > years now. Most of my eskrima training has been > limited to drills and techniques, including angles of > attack, footwork, etc. I also did a little sparring > with a previous instructor, but have not done any > sparring or full speed scenarios recently. > > Given that I'm primarily interested in self/family > defense (I also really enjoy the training), and even > though it's not likely, I could find myself in a > violent situation tomorrow, should I somehow > supplement my training? And should I beware of > possible misconceptions that I may have acquired > through my limited experience with eskrima? > > I've always been confident in my ability to handle > most situations but, then again, nobody has ever > attacked me with a weapon. So what else should I be > doing to better prepare myself for survival in a > (unlikely) violent encounter? > > Hope this makes sense to somebody. > > Thanks, > Dan > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest