Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 03:02:30 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #428 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2000 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Dos Manos, part 3 (WoodyTX) 2. Re: Baseball bats (WoodyTX) 3. Re: Rotator cuff injuries (WoodyTX) 4. RE: panantukan/kali clip (carenza@suomi24.fi) 5. Re: Rotator cuff injuries (iPat) 6. Pekiti-Tirsia Kali Seminar-San Jose,CA (Comcast Mail) 7. Re: Rotator cuff injuries (Ray Terry) 8. Re: Rotator cuff injuries (Michael Koblic) (Jonathan Kessler) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:18:12 -0700 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Dos Manos, part 3 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "Hey, how's it going? I was just... (pick one) a) ...cleaning my gun/sword/knife collection." b) ...practicing my Extreme Ultimate Tactical Ninjism." c) ...talking to my frat brother, the DA." d) ...training my dog to rip out someone's throat." e) ...talking to my wife about your, um, little problem." WoodyTX On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:05:33 -0800, Marc Denny wrote: > Woof All:> > So, and this is the question lurking in this little story that intrigues me > the most: What does one do if the ex-husband shows up at your door in a > disrespectful manner? Hide inside and call the police? Have your wife > answer for you? Step outside? To what purpose? What if he is > bigger/stronger? What will your wife make of these differing courses of > action? > > Woof, > Crafty Dog --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:34:28 -0700 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Baseball bats Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net A agree entirely with Ken. I'm regularly backing up when teaching stick work to somewhat experienced fist-fighters. Range is instinctive, and most peoples' instincts are dead wrong when they first grasp a long weapon. If I had to use a baseball bat, I'd be tempted to grip the fat end and go for speed. Faced with one, I'd shoot in low, or go for the cracked rib and my hands on his throat. As for guns (my first choice for a weapon, preferably from about 300 meters out), if you want to get rid of the more than 50 million or so firearms in Texas, go for it. :-) WoodyTX On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:51:36 -0800, Ken Grubb wrote: > I've discovered when working with weapons of unequal length, there is a > tendency for the person with the longer weapon to misjudge their distance > advantage and allow the person with the shorter weapon in too close. > Ken Grubb > Bellevue, WA --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:52:22 -0700 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Rotator cuff injuries Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The best way to deal with rotator cuff injuries is to prevent them. The vast majority of physically active people I know have very imbalanced musculature, especailly if they don't do some form of cross-training (I'm a great example of this). Martial artists fall into this category, especially if their regimen is push-heavy and pull-light (i.e. lots of push-ups, no pulling exercises). The rotator cuff isn't a cuff, per se. It's four muscles that rotate the upper arm in the socket. Shoulder locks and chicken wing ("Americana") locks will stress them. The best thing you can do is find a personal trainer or physical therapist and ask them for rotator cuff-specific exercises. WoodyTX, once a personal trainer, dating a physical therapist On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:48:06 -0800, Michael Koblic wrote: > All those with rotator cuff injuries, raise your hands (if you still can!) > > Would you care to share your experience of do's, don't and experiences with > medical v. surgical treatment, rehab regimes etc.? > > I will be grateful. > > Michael Koblic > Campbell River, BC > > (One-Armed Chair Warrior - for now) > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:45:20 +0200 From: carenza@suomi24.fi To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] RE: panantukan/kali clip Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi, here you can find one clip which is from Sifu Jon Rister's seminar held here in Finland/Oulu on this summer. http://www.wuhsinkuen.com/multimedia/videos.html Best Regards, Risto >Message: 5 >From: "Aaron Alejandro" >To: >Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:24:08 -0600 >Subject: [Eskrima] Panantukan Clips (mpegs) >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > >Sorry I lost the recent post requesting Panantukan mpeg clips, but I found >some to share. The following are found on the Warriors Way website >(www.warriorswaytx.com) in the Gallery section. Go to the gallery of Family >Gathering 2004 and go to the last page. There are four mpegs (2 stick drills >and 2 panantukan with Guro Eric Jensen). > >http://www.warriorswaytx.com/modules.php?set_albumName=FGathering2004&op=mod l >oad&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php&page=9 > >Also, I noticed several posts warning of a virus embeded in the Warriors >Way >website, I visited with the management this weekend and they have assured >us >it has been removed. All safe. > >Aaron Alejandro >www.execselfdefense.com _______________________________________________________________________ Etsi ystävien ja tuttujen yhteystiedot: http://henkilot.eniro.fi/ Hakupalvelut aina mukanasi - kännykässä: http://www.eniro.fi/mobiili/wap/ --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:51:10 +0000 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Rotator cuff injuries Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net i sent a student of mine who was complaining of symtons best described as rotator cuff injury to an acupuncturist and he healed up pretty quick in comparison to my experience. While i cant throw a ball 'overarm' with a bent whipping type action i still have good range of motion. My yoga instructor was working on that area recently and i felt better for it. -- iPat live for today, live for tomorrow --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Comcast Mail" To: Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:56:50 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Pekiti-Tirsia Kali Seminar-San Jose,CA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Guro Michael Franciotti is sponsoring a Pekiti-Tirsia seminar on Sat. & Sun, Dec.4th & 5th, 2004, from 10:00am-4:00pm, in San Jose, CA. Special Guests: Grand Tuhon Leo T. Gaje, Jr. and Guro Dan Inosanto. This will be an awesome event that you won't want to miss!!!! contact Guro Franciotti at (408) 849-7335 or email michaelfranciotti@sbcglobal.net for more info and location chris gomez chrisjg@comcast.net --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Rotator cuff injuries To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:31:12 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > The rotator cuff isn't a cuff, per se. It's four muscles that rotate > the upper arm in the socket. Shoulder locks and chicken wing > ("Americana") locks will stress them. The best thing you can do is > find a personal trainer or physical therapist and ask them for rotator > cuff-specific exercises. There is also a good book out there, something like Seven Minute Shoulder Exercises. Crafty, I think you have mentioned that book before. Remember the title? Rehab is required after surgery, these exercises will help that rehab. But if you actually have a tear, PT or drugs or acupuncture will not 'heal' the tear. Or so I understand... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Kessler To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Rotator cuff injuries (Michael Koblic) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Michael, I've had both shoulders rebuilt arthroscopically with great results. In both cases I did PT first. Often just PT will do the trick, but not for me, partly because a large part of the problem was the way my shoulders are constructed. An x-ray or MRI will show that, as well as what the damage is. I was pretty averse to surgery the first time, and did a year of PT before realizing that I was going to need more than just PT. If you get surgery, take the time to find a really GOOD surgeon. Apparently the results of shoulder surgery can vary wildly, and tend to follow the skill/success of the surgeon. Talk to your physical therapist and others about possible surgeons and their success rates (or lack thereof). I was really fortunate to be referred to an extremely good surgeon, and I think a big part of my successful recovery stems from that. The other big part of successful recovery was doing my post-surgery PT religiously. At this point (5 mos post my left shoulder surgery) my mobility is better than it has been in years, which I like a lot. Good luck. JK --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest