Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 03:04:10 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #435 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Re: Hakarac Blade Boxing (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Comcast Mail" To: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 22:37:44 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Pekiti-Tirsia seminar in San Jose, CA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Just a reminder that Guro Michael Franciotti is sponsoring a Pekiti-Tirsia seminar this Sat. & Sun, Dec.4th & 5th, 2004, from 10:00am-4:00pm, at Lee's Martial Arts School, 5807 Winfield Blvd., Unit B2; San Jose, CA (Major cross street-Blossom Hill Rd. Major Landmark- Miniature Golf Course on Blossom Hill Rd). Special Guests: Grand Tuhon Leo T. Gaje, Jr. and Guro Dan Inosanto. Fee: $125.00 contact Guro Franciotti at (408) 849-7335 or email michaelfranciotti@sbcglobal.net see you there, chris gomez (415)279-4959 --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Sonny Padilla" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Rotator cuff book Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:07:22 -0700 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Pls. visit www.fitter1.com on Paul Check Ball videos regading rotator cuff exercises. Guro Sonny Padilla >From: Gints Klimanis >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Rotator cuff book >Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 04:42:43 -0800 > >While I have never read the _Seven Minute Rotator Cuff Solution_ book, >I would guess that others have stumbled across similar exercises. >I often reference the _Sports Injury Handbook : Professional Advice for >Amateur Athletes_ by Allan M. Levy M.D., Mark L. Fuerst. >Allen Levy is/was? a Team Physician for the New York Giants. >His book is loaded with descriptions of injuries, largely categorized >by sport. Whether you strain yourself at work or play, a book of >this type is a great read. > >Although I am not plagued by rotator cuff injuries, many of those around >me have subjected themselves to surgery. I've heard lots of talk >about cortisone injections and surgeries yet little mention of >"prehab" or rehab exercises. "Oh, my shoulder hurts. Perhaps I should >get some shoulder surgery." Then, after the injection or surgery, >these people do zero shoulder exercise unless they are forced by a >physical therapist. After reading this book, I've incorporated >lots of shoulder exercises with light or no weight into my regular routine. > Perhaps I'll just be one of those guys without shoulder >problems. > >Heal well, > >Gints >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:01:12 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: "Todd Ellner" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Largo and Corto - "Trying to fight me like I was a big guy" Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net A while back there was a discussion of range and timing. Marc MacYoung mentioned a sparring match where the other guy gave him an introduction to these concepts from a Southeast Asian perspective. The other guy, Mushtaq Ali Al Ansari, has posted his version of the event on his blog at: http://tracelesswarrior.blogspot.com/2004/11/slicing-time.html He's also provided a couple of interesting followups on the subject at http://tracelesswarrior.blogspot.com/2004/11/more-on-slicing-time.html and http://tracelesswarrior.blogspot com/2004/12/slicing-time-part-three-breathing-is.html Good stuff. It's very informative and gives some insight into advanced ideas. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:43:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] 1st LA Open Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net 1st Annual Los Angeles Open Full Contact Stick Fighting Championship WEKAF style full contact 8:00 AM Saturday Dec 11, 2004 Yosemite Rec Center 1840 Yosemite Dr. Los Angeles, CA 90041 Participants must register Late registration available Hosted by Felix Roiles at http://www.pakamut.com --__--__-- Message: 5 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: blam@ihug.com.au Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:51:07 GMT Subject: [Eskrima] rotator cuff injuries Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Folks With the discussion on rotator cuff injuries I thought I might provide a basic summary of the types and causes. As a bit of an introduction, I'm a long time lurker on the ED and I've been doing FMA for maybe 5-6yr on and off in Sydney, Australia. I'm also a radiologist, and end up looking at quite a few of the MRI's used to diagnose the rotator cuff injuries, so while I'm not totally up to date with current treatment, I need to know what problems need what treatment. So advance warning ... long discussion which hopefully won't get too technical to follow :) The most common cause of rotator cuff injuries is impingement of the supraspinatus. This is a muscle that runs between the narrow bony opening at the top of your humerus (upper arm bone) and below the acromion (which forms the bony tip of your shoulder). This sounds like what Ray was talking about .. and is different from nerve impingement, as it is the tendon of the supraspinatus which is being squashed. What happens is that, if anything causes the muscle/tendon to swell or the bony passage to narrow .. when you move your arm around (especially movements that raise the elbow to the side), the tendon will get squashed in the bony channel. This causes repetitive microinjury which eventually weakens the tendon and predisposes to rupture. Things that can cause the above include arthritis or bony injuries where you get bony outcroppings called osteophytes forming .. which can narrow the bony channel. Alternatively .. if you injure your shoulder acutely .. say with a mistimed throw or hold .. you can get swelling/oedema of the muscle/tendon. The injury that follows make take various forms: 1) swelling/inflammation of the tendon: at this point rest and anti- inflammatories have a definate role. If you allow it to rest, the swelling will go down, and it should make the impingement better 2) partial tears: this occurs when some of the fibres rupture. When the tendon tears, you aren't going to grow it back ever. The severity of this can range just from a tiny tear to an almost complete tear and obviously, symptoms and treatment depend on how bad it is. There is still a role for rest and anti- inflammatories at this stage though .. as a minor tear which would otherwise be un-noticable and asymptomatic can cause swelling and oedema. If you don't rest and let this settle down, you can cause more injury which could otherwise have been avoided. 3) total tear: at this point the tendon is totally ruptured and the only hope is surgery. Whether or not this can be repaired depends on how long it has been going on for and whether the tendon/muscle has degenerated and atrophied. That's the main types of injuries and shows that rest and anti-inflammatories have a role in most of them. Physiotherapy is always good to strengthen the muscles which protects the rotator cuff from tears, whether you do it before or after the injury. It's important to go get it sorted out by a qualified doctor tho .. as many other conditions can cause similar problems .. which may be easily fixed. For instance, if you have a bony osteophyte which is squashing the tendon, they can go in an shave it off (which is also what it sounds like Ray had). Inflammation of muscles other than rotator cuff muscles can also mimic the symptoms (although treatment probably won't vary that much from the rest/anti- inflammatory stuff) Anyway .. that's probably heaps of information. Feel free to email me or ask on the digest if you have any specific questions :) Brian --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Manuel De Matos" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:46:12 +0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Hakarac Blade Boxing Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Has anyone outhere heard of Hakarac Blade Boxing. It originated in Australia this year. Apparently it is a combination of Silat & Kali knife sylabus but incorporating all of the strikes, footwork and combinations of western boxing. With the knife on the weakest hand to cut or thrust and the rear hand to continually strike. It has attacks, disarms and retentions (when available), to a high degree of sparring from passive, to aggressive to violent. If anyone has any information regarding this system please email me on prophet2003@hotmail.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Hakarac Blade Boxing To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 18:23:53 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Has anyone outhere heard of Hakarac Blade Boxing. > It originated in Australia this year. > Apparently it is a combination of Silat & Kali knife sylabus but > incorporating all of the strikes, footwork and combinations of western > boxing. With the knife on the weakest hand to cut or thrust and the rear > hand to continually strike. > It has attacks, disarms and retentions (when available), to a high degree of > sparring from passive, to aggressive to violent. No info found, but apparently this is the school in question... Hakarac Boxing 134 Watley Crs Maylands, WA 6051 0409 327 195 WA = Western Australia Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest