Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:35:57 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #439 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2000 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Temporal Slices (Buz Grover) 2. blade boxing (jason couture) 3. What do you say? (steven ledwith) 4. RE: Facilites and Locations (Jared Dame) 5. RE: Burmese MA DVD (Jared Dame) 6. RE: fight me like a big guy (Van Harn, Steve) 7. RE: Weak and strong hand (Jared Dame) 8. Uniforms (Jeremy Bays) 9. RE: two knives (Van Harn, Steve) 10. RE: New Website for Dekiti Tirsia Siradas (marko.ronkainen@nokia.com) (Deveyra, Tito A.) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:26:40 -0500 From: Buz Grover To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Temporal Slices Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Todd Ellner wrote: > A while back there was a discussion of range and timing. Marc MacYoung > mentioned a sparring match where the other guy gave him an > introduction to > these concepts from a Southeast Asian perspective. The other guy, > Mushtaq > Ali Al Ansari, has posted his version of the event on his blog at: Thanks for the URLs; this is indeed cool stuff, and speaks to one of my biggest sources of frustration with my FMA training. As I've rattled on about before, I spent a lot of years in kitchens and learned there how to slice time all kinds of thin, and indeed think the ability to slice time is what separates the really freaking awesome cooks from their dime a dozen brethren. The concept is somewhat counterintuitive: the more narrowly you make temporal slices, the fewer decisions you have to make within a slice during a given activity, and the fewer decision points there are within a given period, the shorter that decision period can be. If your temporal slice is a minute, and you have X number of things cooking, you've got to decide what needs to be attended to in what order, and the time you spend sorting it out cuts into the time you have to get things done. If your slice is 30 seconds, fewer items will need to be attended to in that period so less time will be spent considering what to do when. Break things down into seconds and sub-seconds and each temporal slice contains an obvious choice; you end up transitioning from one obvious choice to the next with no time wasted sorting things out (and I expect those transitions between temporal slices are what people refer to as "flow"). My frustration arises because I know what it feels like to flow between thin temporal slices in a cooking context, but rarely do the same with FMA. Often times while drilling I feel like I have Parkinson's disease; get me to a Guro I seminar where he shows an eight move technique and then five variations to work through in three minutes and you'll know me 'cause I'm the guy moving like Joe Cocker. Though I occasionally manage to let go and move smoothly, it's frustrating to know what this stuff feels like in one context without being able to consistently translate it to the other. Regards, Buz Grover --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 05:30:24 -0800 (PST) From: jason couture To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] blade boxing Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi, all - Blade boxing sounds like a great art but, to me, it doesn't sound like anything new. From what I've been reading (from this news letter), it sounds like the same concepts that I've been using for years. Throw in low kicks, elbows and joint-locks and BAM you get the FMA. So my question is this: is blade boxing stripped down FMA? I'm not trying to bash blade boxing (any art that studies the blade is one to watch out for on the streets), I just want to fully understand what this art is. I know it's not just me who has used techniques like those described in blade boxing, when I'm practicing my FMA. What say you, fellow artists? How new is the art of "blade boxing"? **JASON COUTURE** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 07:55:31 -0800 (PST) From: steven ledwith To: eskrimadigest Subject: [Eskrima] What do you say? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net What do you say when someone asks you why you are carrying that knife? The reason I ask is that this was put to me in a public restroom by one of the two "gents" who were sizing me up so to speak. I remained calm and sidestepped the question by listing all the great things about the knife and company that produces it. Things worked out fine with no blood being shed on that day, but I admit I was unprepared for that question. I live in the south where most guys carry a pocket folder and it's never questioned but have have a small fixed blade at you waist and people wonder. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Facilites and Locations Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:55:45 -0700 From: "Jared Dame" To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Make your school visible!! Many students that have studied for awhile will seek you out, but to bring in the new blood that will take a location that attracts their attention and gets them in the door. Also the diversity of the classes offered will help build you clients quickly even though the same methods, theories, and techniques will be taught despite the name of the class I have found that many potential students like to see the traditional class schedules, the street fighting schedule, and the cardio/fitness intense classes. Jared Dame NextView Systems Integration Team 303-638-6216 jdame@digitalglobe.com -----Original Message----- From: rterry@idiom.com [mailto:rterry@idiom.com] On Behalf Of Jared Circle Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:59 AM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Facilites and Locations I am planning on opening a school in the coming months. What type of facilities do the current school holders on this list reccomend? I am considering either a strip mall location or a free standing concrete construction facility. What other options for a school location have I missed? What are the pros and cons of the different types of facilities out there? What factors have proven to be the most beneficial of any location or type of facility? I know these are weighted questions, with various probable answers dependant upon what my aspirations are as a school owner. With this in mind, I would appreciate any amount of feedback on any of the questions I posed. My Thanks to Those of You Who Offer Your Advice J. Circle _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 5 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Burmese MA DVD Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:19:03 -0700 From: "Jared Dame" To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net How long are the DVD's? Length I mean? Jared Dame NextView Systems Integration Team 303-638-6216 jdame@digitalglobe.com -----Original Message----- From: GioSEAMA@aol.com [mailto:GioSEAMA@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:11 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Burmese MA DVD I have a few remaining Burmese martial arts Exhibition DVDs left for sale. It was shot in the north of burma and there are over 30 demonstrations by various masters with single, double sword, empty hands, etc. It was produced to support the continuing research in the region for my upcoming books. If anyone wants further detailed info on the dvd, they can email me at: Blackdiamondcobra@yahoo.com. The email is $30 with postage included. _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Van Harn, Steve" To: "'eskrima@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:15:56 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: fight me like a big guy Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Yes, I check back frequently. Mushtaq is very fun to read, more fun to train with. He has a way to take difficult concepts and put them in terms my simple mind can grasp. He has some great insights into life as well. Steve Van Harn Arnis Sikaran - Jornales System Sandatahan Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 04:41:06 -0800 (PST) From: Felipe Jocano Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Largo and Corto - "Trying to fight me like I was a big guy" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Man, that's good stuff! Bot --- Todd Ellner wrote: > A while back there was a discussion of range and > timing. --__--__-- Message: 7 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Weak and strong hand Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:31:51 -0700 From: "Jared Dame" To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I train with double knives and double sticks and have found that once I became proficient in it that I perfered to have two blades in my hand in fact I now carry two. I believe that anything you could do with the empty hand can be done with the blade being the extension of the hand. (Excluding grabbing or gripping the person which I prefer not to do) Just another example of the benefits of two blades is that if the person you are fighting attempts a disarm and meets success in a single bladed situation you are now stuck with two empty hands (which is why you train it) but in the two blade situation it would be much more difficult to disarm both knives without fatal wounds being inflicted. Anyway I ramble. Jared -----Original Message----- From: Michael Koblic [mailto:mkoblic@uniserve.com] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 4:17 PM To: Eskrima digest Subject: [Eskrima] Weak and strong hand "in my opinion, i think that is an interesting style because in western boxing the strong hand (cross) is the hand that normally knocks people out (i have never heard of anyone being knocked out by a jab). " Plenty of knockouts with the left (or leading hand) hook though. Having said that I often wondered if it would be logical to have one's knife in the weaker hand (the power being supplied by the edge, so as to speak). I guess it is a matter of dexterity rather than power. How many people train with *two* knives ? Is it an advantage? Does the danger of cutting oneself go up with the square of the number of cutting implements used? Michael Koblic Campbell River, BC _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Jeremy Bays" To: Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:55:47 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Uniforms Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello, We are looking for FIlipino Martial Arts Uniforms. We really are not picky about the style. I have seen some at ModernArnis.com and I and I Sports. DO you know of any other places that have them for sale. Thank you , Jeremy Bays www.INMartialArtsAcademy.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Van Harn, Steve" To: "'eskrima@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:10:05 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: two knives Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Not sure where you're going with this question. The quick answer is how could more weapons be a disadvantage? Yes, we train with two knives, swords. Anything we can pick up. We try to weight the slight majority of our training to double. The non dominant hand is obviously going to be weaker. If you don't purposely train it, the gap between the two will increase. Training with two knives, especially two differing knives will certainly increase your adaptability including when you only have one. I'd say the danger of cutting will actually decrease but that's just opinion. If that one hand is busy with intent, it's less likely to get in the way of the other. If you train with double, they will be used to working in unison. Steve Van Harn Arnis Sikaran - Jornales System Sandatahan - From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 15:16:40 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Weak and strong hand Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net " How many people train with *two* knives ? Is it an advantage? Does the danger of cutting oneself go up with the square of the number of cutting implements used?" --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:23:16 -0800 From: "Deveyra, Tito A." To: Subject: [Eskrima] RE: New Website for Dekiti Tirsia Siradas (marko.ronkainen@nokia.com) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Thanks Mr. Villahermosa for that post on Dekiti Tirsia Siradas (http://dekititirsiasiradas.org). I'm a bit confused. I was reading the history part. It seems that this lineage/system is also related to the Tortal family. How is this related to Pekiti Tirsia of Leo Gaje? Salamat. Tito Deveyra Original post: ----------------------------------- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:22:33 -0800 (PST) From: Genfil Villahermosa To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] New Website for Dekiti Tirsia Siradas Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Good day! I would like to invite you all to visit our new official website for Dekiti Tirsia Siradas. URL is http://dekititirsiasiradas.org Mabuhay! ----------------------------------- --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest