Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:28:14 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #445 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Bob Orlando Seminar in Topeka- Reminder (Andrew Evans) --__--__-- Message: 1 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] SinawaliTrade.com Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:58:29 +0200 From: To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Has anyone had any experience with SinawaliTrade.com? They > have some really good > prices, unfortunantly its setting off my "too good to be > true" alarm and I'm > worried about giving them a CC number. > > Thanks, > Mac I recently ordered a batch of items from them (a ginunting, a karambit, a pair of dulo-dulo and a pair of labsika sticks). The prices are good, but the shipping is quite high and they use UPS of which I have very bad experiences. It took two days for the package to get from the Pinas to Finland -- and almost a week until I got it!). I had to give them my address at least five times (twice in writing) and they still managed to deliver it to the wrong address. Their custom service started getting wise-assed with me and I had to contact the superior of the person I was originally talking to until I got things on the move. But, I did get the package. The quality of the items is OK -- for the money. Don't expect top of the line items and you get pretty decent practise gear. The scabbard of the ginunting is quite cheap looking and only half of it is hardwood, I'm not sure whether it is kamagong as they say, at least the other half is not, it's not even the same colour. Also the handle of the karambit is not kamagong either. The blades look like they're factory made (in a cheap factory) but they serve for training purpose. >From what I've heard (and this is second hand knowledge) the owner (Toby Barthelmes) doesn't actually live in the Philippines himself, but in Germany and he has some people who do the manufacturing and shipping for him. All in all, if you want cheap blades you want to use for hard practise without sheading too many tears if you damage them, go for it. If you want top of the line combat-ready gear, forget it. Oh yeah, I paid with online money order through my bank, which was quite convenient. - Marko --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:17:43 +0100 From: Alex 'Twist' Bohusch To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] SinawaliTrade.com Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Marko, how are the labsika sticks? Could you describe em? Thanks, Alex marko.ronkainen@nokia.com wrote: >>Has anyone had any experience with SinawaliTrade.com? They >>have some really good >>prices, unfortunantly its setting off my "too good to be >>true" alarm and I'm >>worried about giving them a CC number. >> >>Thanks, >>Mac >> >> > >I recently ordered a batch of items from them (a ginunting, >a karambit, a pair of dulo-dulo and a pair of labsika sticks). >The prices are good, but the shipping is quite high and they >use UPS of which I have very bad experiences. It took two days >for the package to get from the Pinas to Finland -- and almost >a week until I got it!). I had to give them my address at least >five times (twice in writing) and they still managed to deliver >it to the wrong address. Their custom service started getting >wise-assed with me and I had to contact the superior of the >person I was originally talking to until I got things on the move. >But, I did get the package. The quality of the items is OK -- >for the money. Don't expect top of the line items and you get >pretty decent practise gear. The scabbard of the ginunting is >quite cheap looking and only half of it is hardwood, I'm not >sure whether it is kamagong as they say, at least the other >half is not, it's not even the same colour. Also the handle >of the karambit is not kamagong either. The blades look like >they're factory made (in a cheap factory) but they serve for >training purpose. >>From what I've heard (and this is second hand knowledge) the >owner (Toby Barthelmes) doesn't actually live in the Philippines >himself, but in Germany and he has some people who do the >manufacturing and shipping for him. >All in all, if you want cheap blades you want to use for >hard practise without sheading too many tears if you damage >them, go for it. If you want top of the line combat-ready gear, >forget it. > >Oh yeah, I paid with online money order through my bank, >which was quite convenient. > >- Marko >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:24:54 -0800 (PST) From: DG Youpa To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] re: Eskrima for Self Defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mr. MacYoung, I just want to clarify that I was the person who asked the initial question about self defense, and that I really appreciate the material you have provided on your Web site. I think you confused me with another person on the list. Your material will provide many hours of enjoyable reading. Also, let me know if you ever want to discuss psychology because I work in that area (as a research psychologist). I posted another question yesterday, and I'm still hoping you will respond. I don't know who the other guy is that you appear to be responding to in your most recent post on this topic. Please provide more insight if you are willing. Thanks, Dan Youpa __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Manuel De Matos" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 05:48:30 +0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Hakarac Blade Boxing Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi John, In rersponse to left handedness, in Hakarac Blade Boxing we train predominantly using the left hand forward with the blade and have found in sparring with other systems that it causes them huge problems in dealing with such a basic and natural application. By using the left hand as a bladed jab and pumping it out a the slightest move combining it with fluid moving footwork causes a lot of grief to others while keeping you at the the only safe place, and that is distance. Disarms and retentions are art and only trained as the glue to keep the system holistic. All this of course only has value and makes to those who empty their cup. Until next time. Mannie --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "John Titus" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:57:04 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] re: old books Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net while waiting to check my e-mail today, i was reading a 1983 encyclopedia of the martial arts. underfunded public and college libraries have tons of 'antique' books, especially old karate and judo texts. good luck with your search. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: argyll@comcast.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:07:59 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Eskrima for Self Defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Uhm, Marc . . . the guy you're replying to, Krishna Das, isn't the one who posted asking for advice on self defense. . . . Best regards, Argyll -------------- Original message -----------> Message: 8 > From: "Marc Macyoung" > To: > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:47:50 -0700 > Subject: [Eskrima] re: Eskrima for Self Defense > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > From: "Krishna Das" > >I took a look at your web site and it is a good job of salesmanship, but > >when it comes down to the bottom line I don't see how you are any different > >than the "SCARS" guys. You seem to be saying the everyone else is no good > >and the only safe thing to do is learn from you. > > If you believe that than you missed my point entirely. * * * SNIP * * * > Wasn't your question about what else did you need to know > about personal safety besides just one fighting style? > > Or did you just want to stick with a fantasy definitions that revolves > around your deadly prowess to defeat slavering hordes of bad guys using your > deadly martial art? * * * SNIP * * * --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Kes41355@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:22:39 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Lefties Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all, I have been a Serrada player for a long time, and one of the main reasons I chose Serrada (besides it's sheer effectiveness), is that I am a lefty, and Serrada translates very easily to being left-handed. I had several conversations with Mike Inay and Jimmy Tacosa about training lefties, and they both encouraged me to continue to train with my natural hand, that Serrada works equally well with the stick (or knife) held in either hand. For the record, though, lefties gave me fits for a while...the only other left-handed eskrimador I knew for years was my brother; they just aren't that common. It wasn't until I trained a friend of my oldest son, who was a lefty, that I began feeling more relaxed against a lefty. Lefties really do come at you from odd angles. Kim Satterfield In a message dated 12/10/04 4:29:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > I was showing my lil' cousin a few blocks, when she > decided to use her left-hand, which was an extreme > challenge because my counters are practiced w/ right > handed strikes. Anybody have any insight on that? I > know that there are some schools that teach > right-hand, even if youre southpaw. After that > incident (which admittedly left me perplexed), I have > to say that I am in need of counsel from the wise. > Always learning... > > Your Friend and Escrimador in training, > > ~John --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:43:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Anthony Johnson" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] RE: sinawalitrade.com Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have dealt with Sinawalitrade for over a year now and have not had one bad experience. Infact the way he showed me he was on the up and up was to ship to me 4 body armor, 4 head gear, arm and shin guards, sticks all without me not sending him a dime yet. I've never met Toby and he still shipped all that gear just to prove he was legit and his products were good. Well I purchase from him now at least once a month. I have used the credit process and the western union process. I have purchase just about everything he sales. Don't worry about service, price and quality when you're dealing with Toby. This man is as honorable as they come. Tony Johnson --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:01:20 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Unmatched Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: John wrote: > From: John Montes > Subject: Re:[Eskrima] Left-handers win in hand-to-hand combat > > I was showing my lil' cousin a few blocks, when she > decided to use her left-hand, which was an extreme > challenge because my counters are practiced w/ right > handed strikes. Anybody have any insight on that? I > know that there are some schools that teach > right-hand, even if youre southpaw. After that > incident (which admittedly left me perplexed), I have > to say that I am in need of counsel from the wise. > Always learning... > > Your Friend and Escrimador in training, > > ~John Good on you for not pretending that this did not happen and for searching for solutions! Certainly there are many ways of approaching this. Here's one. At the simplest level, you may consider thinking of the lefty's b-hand as a righty's f-hand, but this still leaves the probable matter of a change of lead in the feet as well probably throwing you off a bit anyway. In our system we place a lot of emphasis on triangular footwork in the context of bilateralism-- meaning that we seek to develop the ability to work with either hand with either foot forward in the context of weapons and feet being integrated. As part of developing this, we emphasize a lot of siniwali. Siniwali means more than endless variations of matching meet-the-force patterns. To fight siniwali one must be able to have L respond to R and vice versa be it meet, merge or follow-- in other words do what you just noted you need work on.. So one thing that might help would be siniwali drills that do not have the R meet R and L meet L (matched patterns), but perhaps L meet R and L meet R (unmatched patterns). Then move to merges and follows (matched and unmatched) as part of the patterns. Note that all this training should be done with active triangular footwork (both matched and unmatched) as well. Avoid the common training habit of siniwali training of standing there with your three legs equi-distant from the training partner ;-) Once you are comfortable playing these games you may find your answers as a single stick righty against a single stick lefty simply a subset of the skill sets installed by this training. Woof, Guro Crafty. --__--__-- Message: 10 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: "Andrew Evans" Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:24:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Eskrima] Bob Orlando Seminar in Topeka- Reminder Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mr. Bob Orlando will be teaching a two-day workshop in Topeka, Kansas on Saturday, December 18 from 9am-5pm and Sunday, December 19 from 9-11:30am. Cost is $90. The cost is $90 and registration is limited to twenty participants. Thus those in attendance will get more personalized training. I have a good response from fellow Kansans but was hoping to connect with other Midwesterners. (This way you'll be sure that I will attend your events plus we can work together to bring more big names out to the heartland.) We currently have four spots available and hope to see them filled. Please reserve your spot by Wednesday, Dec. 15th. The focus will be a variety of combat principles from Chinese kuntao and Dutch-Indonesian pukulan pentjak silat. Mr. Orlando is a long-time student of Dutch-Indonesian master Willem de Thouars and an accomplished instructor in this own right. In addition to writing the book "Indonesian Fighting Fundamentals," Mr. Orlando has published "Martial Arts America" and six highly acclaimed video titles. http://www.orlandokuntao.com/master_frameset.html http://www.paladin-press.com/detail.aspx?ID=1091 Thanks, Andrew Evans Hokkien Martial Arts/ Martial Arts Council 785-213-1576 www.TopekaKarate.com _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest