Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 03:03:23 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #454 - 2 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2000 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Doc's post (Kes41355@aol.com) 2. Re: lefty/righty (Kes41355@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Kes41355@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:20:17 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Doc's post Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Doc, That is one of the best posts I've ever read on the process of teaching, and learning as well. Well put, sir. Kim In a message dated 12/14/04 7:08:48 PM US Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > Yes Kim I understand your point. Your first comment regarding Guro Dan's > seminar are taken a bit out of context. I started with Guro Dan when I was > 14. I am now 44 and still training. He has a method to his "madness". > One > of the problems with seminars or for those who are not listening in class is > that his seminars and classes are "snapshots of martial arts material" Guro > Dan requires that you do personal research. In my early days he spoon feed > us > the JKD concepts (the primer) then emphasized that he cannot be my only > teacher and that I had to do homework just like school if I was going to > really understand the lesson of the day. The crux of how this martial data > fits together in real time needs to be figured out in one's own structure > and > it is alot harder to figure out if your structure is not Guro Dan's > structure. > He often shows the odd ball thing like the left hand florette just to do it > so > you know it can be done...then it is time to drink from Guro Dan's firehose > and it is your resonsibility to figure it all out later. That is why the > rightside is worked. He probably lost many people in your class he always > does working just on the rightside. If you did not notice other people's > actions you were concentrating pretty hard on what he was showing. Can > you > imagine if he made everyone go left and right. You would have got less than > 50% of his lesson plan. Which would you rather have? Personally, I like > his > style as it was my first martial exposure. To me he is teaching at the > university level. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Kes41355@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:41:33 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: lefty/righty Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all, Yep, I experience exactly the same thing, only in reverse. I'm a better boxer right side forward (power left hand back) because I seem to have a little better jab with my right. Also, my right jab better accomplishes the job that a jab is supposed to do...probe, keep the opponent off-balance by not letting him get set to attack, and set up the killing shot. With the left jab, my power hand, I seem to want to try to throw power jabs all the time, trying to do heavy damage with one big lead shot, instead of let the jab lead the flow to other punches. Let's say the target is the face...a boxer's jab has a snap to it, a relaxed, whipping strike that disperses power over the surface of the target (the face) that is intended to cause a knockout by virtue of the shock of the punch (to the body, we still dig the punch in). I can better accomplish this "shock" with my right...it just has a better snap. I feel more like a two-handed fighter if my right is forward...I tend to depend on both hands to do the job using a right lead, plus my body stays in balance better. With the left forward, I rely on the big power shot of the lead left, I tend to lean forward instead of distributing my weight evenly, and any good fighter will get past the power lead, and destroy my defenses by getting on the inside. A point to make, though...in Serrada, with a weapon, the subject of which lead to use wasn't discussed much; we just went with the flow. I do think, though, that using the weapon in my left hand exclusively for so many years has contributed to some health problems, particularly with my back, that I'm experienced today, due to the imbalance. I'd really be interested in hearing other's opinions on this. We all relate to the familiar, and avoid the unfamiliar, and to me, using a weapon predominantly in my right hand was something to avoid. I'm feeling today that after 27 years of this, I may have done a lot more harm than good. Kim Satterfield In a message dated 12/14/04 7:08:48 PM US Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > I was just wondering if anyone else has expereinced something similar, > but for me, it's not that my left hand is less-abled than my right, > but that it's differently-abled. I am right handed, but due to years > of training, I've found that my right tends to take over certain > roles, and my left does for others. > > In general, my right is my power hand, so for swinging the stick, it > just has more snap to it. I seem to have a bit better tip control as > well, and for power punching, specifically crosses, it is quite a bit > better than my left. > > My left however, is much better for more subtle finesse moves. I can > tripple up on a jab with my left, and it's lightning quick, whereas > trying to do this with my right is nearly impossible. It's like > trying to jab with a sledgehammer. Power yes. Quick finesse, no. My > left just really has more quick snap to it, which actually makes for a > sharper jab and a nice short left hook. > > When I've got a stick, my left hand just has far more dexterity when > using it for aggressive checkin and jamming. Once again, it just has > better quick "pop" to it. Similarly, if I'm going for a grab, or a > finger/joint lock, my left is a bit smoother than my right in getting > the job done. > > So, knowing this, I just try to make the most of each hands' > strengths. At largo, I tend to go to a right lead, utilizing the > reach, power, and tip control of my right hand, and the power that I > can generate with the stick. When things close in however, I usually > switch to a left lead, knowing that it'll be easier to engage my left > in aggressive checking, locking, and striking. It is just much closer > to the opponent, which lets me use it more readily for defensive > support, and shortens the distance that it needs to go for offensive > checking and striking. > > So things aren't exactly "even" for both of my hands, but there is a > sense of complementary balance. > > Anyone else experienced this? --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest