Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 03:03:54 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #455 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Re: Norman's drumming (Cogie Gutierrez) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Black Power Ranger" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] drumming and sinawali Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:22:36 +0000 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I too share badger's sentiment...Not only drumming, but music also has helped me learn Sinawali with great ease...The striking patterns tend to follow a musical cadence (such as waltz time with three, six, and nine count in inayan sinawali). This has allowed me to commit them to memory much easier. the rest of the counts are very musical and can be easily drummed to and incorporated with music to aid flow...much like drumming is incorporated to help the flow for Capoeira. I have experimented by taking some drumming patterns from different regions in the Philippines and seeing if i can blend them into one distinct pattern to aid the flow with espada y daga, sinawali, and lock and block for serrada...so far i have used the following drummings from the following folks dances: >From the mountain suite: Lumagen Bumaya >From the Muslim Suite: Singkil Asik VInta i have found that the drummings to these songs can help aid those struggling focus when learning eskrima/kali/arnis...i am not saying that these ARE THE TOOLS but they do provide helpful guidelines...and, as always, i am open to suggestions.... Thank you all for listening, Norman Inayan Eskrima >>PS: About 6 months ago I started taking Djembe Drum lessons (the Djembe >>is >>a drum from west Africa). My teacher is pleased with me progress and >>feels >>that my double stick training has been of tremendous benefit to me in this >>endeavor. > >In my case, drumming allowed me to pick up sinawali in pretty much no time, >much to the chagrin of the woman who was showing me. Occasionally I've >also offered drummers' workshops entitled "martial arts for drummers" based >on striking and rhythm. > >Now if only I could finally get the hang of doing espada y daga >"backwards", with the stick in my left hand and daga in my right. > >Badger Jones >Siling Labuyo Arnis >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:22:20 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Q To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] I got no school Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net < To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Kim's Lefty comment and Guro Dan Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mr. Carlton Sir, Very cool that you have done so much training with Guro Inosanto. He is such an awesome individual. Where is your school located? Geo (The Jazz Bear)>> Geo, I have no school I am not an instructor. I just train. I am lucky to live in the middle of where martial arts is the best in the world. I can go any direction on the clock and run into an awesome place to train from Guro Dan's, Raw gym, Gracie JJ to Gene LaBelle's. If you love martial art you gotta spend some time in L.A.. You will never live long enough to taste it all. Regards, Carlton H. Fung, D.D.S. Torrance, Ca. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:43:00 +0000 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] re: Eskrima for Self Defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Marc, could you explain to me the realtionship of the brain in self defence and whether it is gender specific. I understand (maybey wrongly) that the limbic area of your brain deals with emergency situations, while the frontal lobes need to strategize. How then can the martial artist best learn to develop this area? Is it by competition? To me that seems like a different mindset. Thanks in advance -- iPat live for today, live for tomorrow --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:38:20 -0800 (PST) From: jay de leon To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Norman's drumming Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Norman wrote : "...so far i have used the following drummings from the following folks dances: >From the mountain suite: Lumagen Bumaya >From the Muslim Suite: Singkil Asik VInta." One of my favorite dances (to watch) is Singkil, danced around and between two pairs of bamboo sticks, just like "Tinikling" but more regal and pulse-pounding. The main dancers are a Muslim princess and her lady-in-waiting who carries an umbrella for her mistress and follows her around, shielding her from the sun. Love the visual, music and Muslim flavor. You can really sinawali to the beat. When I was in grade school in the Philippines, way before I started doing FMA, I danced the "Sakuting" in a school presentation. You hold two sticks and the basic movement is doing a high triple witik with a partner. Jay de Leon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:10:04 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: George Mason To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] I got no school Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mr. Carlton, Sounds like you are living the good life. I may try to make it out to LA to check out the scene. I travel the world as a musician and get to go a lot of places. My last big trip was to Africa. They have some interesting stick fighting there but it differs greatly from the kali. I am going back on tour in March and possibly earlier. I hope to make it out that way and see Guro Dan. Best wishes. Geo ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:14:51 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Dog Brothers November Gathering Fotos Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: We've started uploading pictures from our November Gathering: http://dogbrothers.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album18 And, you may add comments to the photos! Woof, Crafty Dog PS: Check out the foto on our splash page www.dogbrothers.com of two of the women fighting and showing good focus. --__--__-- Message: 7 Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Norman's drumming To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:07:39 -0800 From: "Cogie Gutierrez" Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Guro Jay, I guess you're a folk dancer in the US on the sidelines? ;-) Cogie On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:38:20 -0800 (PST), "jay de leon" said: > Norman wrote : > > "...so far i have used the > following drummings from the following folks dances: > > From the mountain suite: > Lumagen > Bumaya > > From the Muslim Suite: > Singkil > Asik > VInta." > > > One of my favorite dances (to watch) is Singkil, danced around and > between two pairs of bamboo sticks, just like "Tinikling" but more regal > and pulse-pounding. The main dancers are a Muslim princess and her > lady-in-waiting who carries an umbrella for her mistress and follows her > around, shielding her from the sun. Love the visual, music and Muslim > flavor. You can really sinawali to the beat. > > When I was in grade school in the Philippines, way before I started doing > FMA, I danced the "Sakuting" in a school presentation. You hold two > sticks and the basic movement is doing a high triple witik with a > partner. > > Jay de Leon > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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