Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 03:03:58 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #470 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2000 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Information Request (bart) 2. Re: When Your Instructor Quits (Anthony C) 3. Re: When Your Instructor Quits (DenverAMA@aol.com) 4. Re: KALI (Grimfragg@aol.com) 5. Re: ED V11.465 - WEKAF and Woody (Bart Hubbard) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "bart" To: Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:31:08 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Information Request Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello Folks, My name is Bart Riel I'm new to this list, I've found it informative (mostly). I did some Eskrido training last summer in Malaybalay City Bukidnon on Mindanao with Jon Mac. Now I'm back home in central MA and I'd like to find someone to continue my Eskrido training with, do any of you folks know anyone in central Massachusetts with whom I might train ? Has anyone here dealt with the Inayan Systems International web site, I'm interested in buying some of their training dvds, and I thought I'd ask for comments. Salamat --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 09:36:42 -0800 (PST) From: Anthony C Subject: Re: [Eskrima] When Your Instructor Quits To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net He said he had lost his desire to teach. --- Ray Terry wrote: > > Mine recently quit after taking my initial two > years > > in the art with him. I feel a sense of loss as > the > > break was rather sudden for reasons akin of the > need > > to find onesself and his losing his passion for > teaching. > > Why did he quit? Need more time for family? Or > work? Or??? > > Ray Terry > rterry@idiom.com > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: DenverAMA@aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:30:31 EST Subject: Re: [Eskrima] When Your Instructor Quits To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Whether by moving on, doors opening or closing..... even death, Anthony the martial arts continues to develop the life skills necessary to handle even the difficulty of what you have mentioned and what I have mentioned above. You are now getting to see everything you have trained in to be applied to another whole aspect of your life. As it should, we train and teach as a lifestyle. I am very grateful for my training, because we will eventually experience some type of loss, in your training or in life. In training you are correct in saying there is a stronger bond than can be mentioned. I come from a unique area because I have lost close instructors to all of the areas mentioned above. A LOT of loss, grieving and even suffering. I am grateful for the good that was given and the training that has made me what I am now, for whatever season it may have been. Very precious treasures have been given. Focus on the good. One of my instructors have given me that little treasure lately. As an instructor, the loss is also experienced the other way. Students growing, moving on in life, careers, schools etc. Notice positive directions. See the positive, and work through the loss. You are not ever alone. Also, be patient with yourself as you work with your new instructor. You are opening a new chapter. Embrace it. Best wishes to you-through this transition.. which is what it should be. Just a change for you. Guro Heather MonDee _www.denverama.com_ (http://www.denverama.com) _www.k2ftc.com_ (http://www.k2ftc.com) Hello Everyone, Has anyone ever had their FMA instructor discontinue their teaching the arts? Mine recently quit after taking my initial two years in the art with him. I feel a sense of loss as the break was rather sudden for reasons akin of the need to find onesself and his losing his passion for teaching. When sharing the arts of life and death, you create a very strong bond to those who instruct you. Assuming you take it as seriously as I do. Although I have located a new instructor in a similar discipline of the FMA arts with far more experience than my former instructor, the sense of loss persists. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Especially how others might have dealt with this situation. Thank you for your time and attention. - Anthony --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Grimfragg@aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:41:39 EST Subject: Re: [Eskrima] KALI To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net As far as I'm aware, or from what I've been taught at least, the names do indeed refer to pretty much exactly the same art. It just depends on where your paticular style originated. Arnis is most recognisable in Luzon, Eskrima in Cebu, and Kali in Mindanao. But as a wise man once said "What is in a name? A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet..." as long as what you learn is useful and holds your interest the name shouldn't matter. Hope that helps and good luck with your training! --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:50:52 -0800 (PST) From: Bart Hubbard To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: ED V11.465 - WEKAF and Woody Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hey There, One big thing to remember is that WEKAF is an acronym for an organization (World Eskrima Kali Arnis Federation) and it is not a style of martial art. People do not get a black belt in WEKAF nor is there a grandmaster of WEKAF. WEKAF is primarily an organization that promotes the development and proliferation of weapon based martial arts which have roots in the Philippines. One of the most commonly known tools of this organization is the tournament. There is an agreed upon set of tournament rules which are revisited and revised at every WEKAF Congress. This set of rules is commonly called "WEKAF Style Sparring". That being said, I think that it's important to engage in several different types of sparring environments and not just one. Stop action sparring has value as well as continuous striking sparring. I've participated in several different types, although more continuous than stop action, and I see great value in skill development and mental conditioning in each. Any sort of civilized sparring environment removes a certain portion of reality that would cause serious or fatal injury. Whether the pad is on the stick or on the competitor's body makes little difference concerning the reality of the competition because either way less damage is done. If you're doing unpadded, there is a certain amount of "pulling punches" that's done so that everybody can still be alive and functional to train another day. In lifting weights, you do different exercises to develop different muscles to build overall body strength. In sparring, adhering to only one environment is like only doing a single exercise. You'll only get strong in that area but remain weak in others, potentially with adverse results. In closing, I think that WEKAF gets a bad rap because of a lot of things that actually haven't much to do with the actual method of sparring but rather with the method in which people approach it. ===== Be Cool. Bart Hubbard Capital Doce Pares www.capitaldocepares.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest