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RE: Observations from the Philippines (nephalim1@netscape.net) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Kel620@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:40:32 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Whip Source Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net David Morgan sells a lot of whips. They seem very expensive though. I don't have any experience with their whip...or any other whips, for that matter. The closest would be summer camp many years ago where we would wrap wet towels in a spiral, then wrap a bunch of tape around the tip. Luckily no one lost an eye, but they did cut the skin when they hit... http://www.davidmorgan.com/search_results.html?search.keyword=whip&ticket=5203 71-6356340 K. Williams --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Stephen luna" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Re: Heart-stopping moments Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:27:41 -0700 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have a question about the pd taser training, I know that part of the mace training is, or used to be, was that the officer had to be maced in the face, so along that logic...does the officer need to to be tasered? ~Stephen --__--__-- Message: 3 From: To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Observations from the Philippines Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:49:25 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I think a lot of it has to do with what Pak Herman Suwanda said about Indonesia. Paraphrasing, of course, since I can't recall Pak's precise words :-) "TKD and similar arts are much more popular in Indonesia than Silat because they look pretty. If you're a parent and you want to get your kids into training where are you going to send them? Are you going to send them to the local guru who trains in a ratty old sarong and rolls around in the dirt or are you going to send them to TKD where they get a nice white gi and line up in neat rows and stay relatively clean while they train?" I would assume that this is also the case in the PI. Also, there's an aspect of human nature that makes us overlook what's right in front of us because it seems more mundane than something foreign. My wife and I were in WV once visiting some of my relatives. When we left my uncle's house, my aunt asked which route we were taking to our next destination. When we told her she said, "Oh. That's a kind of boring route." For us, it was a very interesting route - passed through quite a few lovely areas and some regions that had great overlooks. It was very scenic. But not to my aunt who grew up in the area :-) Mike -----Original Message----- From: Sid Stein [mailto:eskrimajew@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:02 AM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Observations from the Philippines Being on my first trip to the philippines, I though I would share some observations. FMA does not seem all that popular here. It seems that Tae Kwon Do is more popular in the martial arts world, and basketball and hip-hop being more popular within the general population. This could be due to "colonial mentality" and also that FMA is a traditional Filipino art. So it is possilbe to find FMA but you really need to look. I managed to get down to Batangas province, and pick up some balisongs and a bolo. And I am getting some training in with some of the instructors. Sid Stein Defensor Method, Chicago (Temporarily on Mindoro island) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Larry St. Clair" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:07:18 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] The Edge 2005 Knife & Stickfighting Championships Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello to all. Here is the news release on our upcoming tournament. Austin, Texas - What does non-stop action and heart pounding excitement have to do with Saturday, April 16th, 2005?  The answer is simple.  Austin's only weapon based martial arts tournament, The Edge 2005 will be debuting its fourth event. There will be seven Divisions awarding 23 medals, three Team Awards and three National Title Belts! This will also be local Champion Roberto Vallarino's first two Title defenses! All of this action will take place on Saturday, April 16th at the Givens Recreation Center in Austin, Texas. Givens is conveniently located at 3811 East 12th Street near the intersection of Airport Boulevard just East of IH-35. The competition will begin at 11:00 AM and go until 4 PM. Tickets are available to witness The Edge 2005 in person for only $15 in advance and $20 at the door. When you purchase your tickets you will receive a raffle ticket for prizes from some of our best local, national and even international sponsors. You can purchase tickets by visiting the school or online at www.edgefighting.com. If you are interested in competing then get your space reserved today. Take advantage of the early bird registration special by phone calling at (512) 339-8264 or you can register directly at www.edgefighting.com. For competitors and judges, attend the free Rules Seminar this February 26th, 2005. On this Saturday, we will take the time from 2pm - 5pm to work with everyone on the The Edge Rules. This will be done in both discussion and in practice so please bring your sparring gear.  Some gear will be supplied if you need it. The goal here is to allow everyone the time to practice and stop in the middle to ask questions and find out how to get better according to The Edge's Rules. Whether you are wanting to just help support Filipino Martial Arts and judge at the event, or you are dying to compete, this seminar is for you!  Call or email martialway@hotmail.com to RSVP now! Thanks for you time and more news will be on its way! Sincerely, Larry St. Clair --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:12:35 -0500 (EST) From: tvalesky@patriot.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] 20 minute workout Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Check out some of the workouts on http://www.crossfit.com They post a new one every day. The "as many sets as possible in 20 minutes" approach is a recurring theme; almost all the workouts are done against the clock. They look a lot easier on paper than they are in real life, though. :-) --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:21:28 -0800 (PST) From: garry bowlds To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] FMA in Mexico? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello, I am in Mexico City right now, and will be travelling around the country for the next couple of weeks, and was wondering if anyone knew of any FMA schools in the country where I could train or teach for awhile. Thx, Guro Garry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:06:42 -0600 (CST) From: RAUL acevedo Subject: Re: [Eskrima] FMA in Mexico? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net in mexico are many fma arround the country in veracruz, estado de mexico, jalisco, chihuahua,etc and 3 or more in df mexico capital - defensor method, docepares, arnis de mano and more im in one docepares cacoy cañete system my phone in mexico if you dial in df is 04455 13 91 78 82 and if you dial for arround the country dial 0155 13 91 7882 if you visit df contactme and i take to mi scool and y can give some other adress att raul acevedo lopez --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Net: La mejor conexión a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Heart-stopping moments To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:20:41 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > I have a question about the pd taser training, I know that part of the mace > training is, or used to be, was that the officer had to be maced in the > face, so along that logic...does the officer need to to be tasered? My understanding is yes. Thousands of officers and trainers have been zapped and I suspect that few, if any, have had any problems. I know that I have been zapped during a firearms training class as a way to 'add stress' to the situation. Puts you down, but no lasting harmful harmful harmful harmful, err, effects. :) Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:51:47 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Kohn Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Whip Source To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Morgan's prices are comparable to those of any quality whip maker. Check out whips by Joe Strain and Terry Jacka as well. All are excellent whips. I use the Jacka whips myself but plan on getting a Strain whip at some point. If you buy a cheap whip, you will definitely get what you pay for. If you buy a good one and give it the proper care...it will last a very long time. -Steve Kohn Kel620@aol.com wrote: David Morgan sells a lot of whips. They seem very expensive though. I don't have any experience with their whip...or any other whips, for that matter. The closest would be summer camp many years ago where we would wrap wet towels in a spiral, then wrap a bunch of tape around the tip. Luckily no one lost an eye, but they did cut the skin when they hit... http://www.davidmorgan.com/search_results.html?search.keyword=whip&ticket=5203 71-6356340 K. Williams _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:18:13 -0500 From: nephalim1@netscape.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Observations from the Philippines Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I agree. I took up Karate after having seen hollywood martial arts. I wanted to be "just like Mike". The hollywood stigma is so strong Filipino celebrities rush to imitate western ideas. Two good examples are Eddie Katindig(jazz musician) and Jackie Lou Blanco(actress). Now known respectively(?) as Eddie K (imitating Kenny G) and J Lou (you gessed it, J Lo)imitating Jennifer Lopez. Yes, it is colonial mentality. Hopefully we all learn from it and embrace the beauty of one's own culture before someone else's. wrote: >I think a lot of it has to do with what Pak Herman Suwanda said about >Indonesia. > >Paraphrasing, of course, since I can't recall Pak's precise words :-) "TKD >and similar arts are much more popular in Indonesia than Silat because they >look pretty. If you're a parent and you want to get your kids into training >where are you going to send them? Are you going to send them to the local >guru who trains in a ratty old sarong and rolls around in the dirt or are >you going to send them to TKD where they get a nice white gi and line up in >neat rows and stay relatively clean while they train?" > >I would assume that this is also the case in the PI. > >Also, there's an aspect of human nature that makes us overlook what's right >in front of us because it seems more mundane than something foreign. My wife >and I were in WV once visiting some of my relatives. When we left my uncle's >house, my aunt asked which route we were taking to our next destination. >When we told her she said, "Oh. That's a kind of boring route." For us, it >was a very interesting route - passed through quite a few lovely areas and >some regions that had great overlooks. It was very scenic. But not to my >aunt who grew up in the area :-) > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sid Stein [mailto:eskrimajew@yahoo.com] >Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:02 AM >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] Observations from the Philippines > >Being on my first trip to the philippines, I though I would share some >observations. > >FMA does not seem all that popular here.  It seems that Tae Kwon Do is more >popular in the martial arts world, and basketball and hip-hop being more >popular within the general population. > >This could be due to "colonial mentality" and also that FMA is a traditional >Filipino art. > >So it is possilbe to find FMA but you really need to look. > >I managed to get down to Batangas province, and pick up some balisongs and a >bolo. > >And I am getting some training in with some of the instructors. > >Sid Stein >Defensor Method, Chicago >(Temporarily on Mindoro island) > >         >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list,  2000 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list,  2000 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. 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