Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:03:57 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #17 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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NY Pekiti Tirsia seminars (Bill McGrath) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:45:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Pentagon support of Taser Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Since we've been talking about Taser... Thursday, January 13, 2005 Last updated 9:46 a.m. PT Taser stock jumps on Pentagon support THE ASSOCIATED PRESS NEW YORK -- Shares of Taser International Inc. rose sharply Thursday for the second straight day, helped by Defense Department support for Taser's assertion that a Pentagon study found the company's stun guns are generally safe. In midday trading, the stock rose $4.64, or 27 percent, to $21.65 on the Nasdaq Stock Market. In recent days, the stock had fallen more than 50 percent from a 52-week high of $33.45 set Dec. 30. The Securities and Exchange Commission is investigating the Scottsdale, Ariz., company's safety claims about its stun guns. In October, Taser announced that a Pentagon study had determined its stun guns "will generally be effective ... without a significant risk of unintended severe effects." "This puts to bed the SEC inquiry, because it should help to answer the questions of safety," Source Capital Group analyst Joe Blankenship said Thursday. The Pentagon's Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate commissioned the Air Force Research Laboratory to study the health effects of Taser's products. Wednesday, Capt. Dan McSweeney, spokesman for the directorate, upheld the findings and Taser's representation of them, noting that the Pentagon had reviewed the company's press release before it was issued. "We have stated that Tasers are generally safe and effective," McSweeney said. "If we didn't that think that was the case, we wouldn't have recommended that the services purchase and field Tasers." Taser was also in the news Thursday as a study characterized the weapon's danger to the heart as "extremely low." The Pacing and Clinical Electrophysiology Journal reported that the stun gun has a very little likelihood of triggering ventricular fibrillation - a fatal form of heart arrhythmia. Source analyst Blankenship said neither of Taser's top two competitors, Stinger Systems and Law Enforcement Associates Corp., has effective products to compete with Taser's stun guns. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Jorge Penafiel" To: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:25:01 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Observations from the Philippines Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net My thoughts on this thread,,,If you are filipino and you've live most of your life in the country, you too would most certainly pick or welcome an activity for your self something different from what is "local" be it Martial Arts and/or anything else. It's not about "colonial mentality or being anti-nationalistic",, it's human tendencies. Same way here in the States or anywhere else,, People tend to have preference to imported things,,i.e, cars, TV, Cameras, etc. thus we cater to TKD, Kung Fu, FMA, etc instead of american martial art. Of course good commercialism, media, and worldwide popularity/acceptance exert vital role. Jorge --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:15:36 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Kohn Subject: Re: [Eskrima] whip To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Very cool. I understand that Sayoc Kali has a very nice whip curriculum. -Steve Kohn Roy Parker wrote: For anyone interested I have learned from Stephen Lefebvre that Sayoc Kali will be releasing a filipino whip training DVD in the next few months. They also sell whips at www.sayoc.com Roy Parker _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! – Get yours free! --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "All Blade" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] whip Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:30:59 +0000 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Guro Blade hopes it is of higher quality than their edged weapons curricula. Guro Blade Always cuts deep > > >For anyone interested I have learned from Stephen Lefebvre that Sayoc Kali >will be releasing a filipino whip training DVD in the next few months. >They >also sell whips at www.sayoc.com >Roy Parker >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:10:52 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Kohn Subject: RE: [Eskrima] whip To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Again with speaking of yourself in the third person? Kinda creepy dude. -Steve Kohn All Blade wrote: Guro Blade hopes it is of higher quality than their edged weapons curricula. Guro Blade Always cuts deep > > >For anyone interested I have learned from Stephen Lefebvre that Sayoc Kali >will be releasing a filipino whip training DVD in the next few months. >They >also sell whips at www.sayoc.com >Roy Parker >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:33:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Kessler To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Teach your Children Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Jared, In Crossfit we have a saying "It doesn't have to be fun to be fun!". Except for kids - with kids it has to be fun to be fun!! What you describe (having to keep her focused) may well be a sign that you are trying too hard, and for too long. Depending on her age, you may want to have shorter sessions and have fun with her. My son is 8. Among other things we do archery and MA together. As an archer he developed into a high level of skill for his age, and competes quite successfully. But he has NO interest in "practicing". "Sam, let's go out and shoot a bit" gets no response. But "Sam, the Mongols are invading, let's grab our bows and go out and stop them" - man, he's got his bow and quiver and he's on it like white on rice. My son loves doing BJJ. BJJ is a lot of large motor skills, and grappling is inherently fun for kids. He loves doing FMA as well, but the higher degree of fine motor skill needed means he gets frustrated faster. So we take our time, do a little bit at a time, and don't push. A few minutes of sinawali is about all he can manage. He loves it but after a few minutes he's ready to stop. A few minutes of angle strikes and counters. And we move on. Take your time, work in small chunks. Don't worry about her doing other arts - just check out the art and the instructors. Chances are it will only help her grow and develop. JK --__--__-- Message: 7 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Controversial arnis duel english To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:00:48 -0800 From: "Cogie Gutierrez" Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Marko, That's Cebuano English. ;-) I once corrected a guy in a forum for using the word Philippino, that it should have been spelled Filipino. And he shot back and said a pinoy english teacher told him its ok. I remember back in college that a word whether it had questionnable origins, becomes a word when it is acceptable to the public. Even if it is considered grammatically wrong. On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:28:38 +0200, marko.ronkainen@nokia.com said: > > Tom intervenes, bans controversial arnis duel by Gabby Malagar > > The Freeman, Cebu > > January 12, 2005 > > > > Go on with the duel or face arrest. > > Funny, this would imply that he was urging them to fight... > Unless it should have been "...AND face arrest". Maybe it's > a typo. > > - Marko --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:10:00 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Kohn Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Teach your Children To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Jared/Jon, A friend once said to me "learn a little, forget a lot...after a while you'll know a lot". That approach seems like it would apply to teaching fine motor skills to children in a big way. Best, Steve Jonathan Kessler wrote: Jared, In Crossfit we have a saying "It doesn't have to be fun to be fun!". Except for kids - with kids it has to be fun to be fun!! What you describe (having to keep her focused) may well be a sign that you are trying too hard, and for too long. Depending on her age, you may want to have shorter sessions and have fun with her. My son is 8. Among other things we do archery and MA together. As an archer he developed into a high level of skill for his age, and competes quite successfully. But he has NO interest in "practicing". "Sam, let's go out and shoot a bit" gets no response. But "Sam, the Mongols are invading, let's grab our bows and go out and stop them" - man, he's got his bow and quiver and he's on it like white on rice. My son loves doing BJJ. BJJ is a lot of large motor skills, and grappling is inherently fun for kids. He loves doing FMA as well, but the higher degree of fine motor skill needed means he gets frustrated faster. So we take our time, do a little bit at a time, and don't push. A few minutes of sinawali is about all he can manage. He loves it but after a few minutes he's ready to stop. A few minutes of angle strikes and counters. And we move on. Take your time, work in small chunks. Don't worry about her doing other arts - just check out the art and the instructors. Chances are it will only help her grow and develop. JK _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:11:48 -0800 (PST) From: Bill McGrath To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] NY Pekiti Tirsia seminars Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Here is a list of my 2005 seminars in New York. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath NYC January 23rd 11AM to 7PM Cost $50 Subject: Overview of Advanced Single Stick and Espada y Daga Kali Sistema Mano Corto 123 Bowery Street 5th Floor New York, NY 10002 Contact Jesus Vasques at: 212 475-5751 kalisystemamanocorto@hotmail.com Fishkill, NY 12 Noon to 5PM Subject: Abcedario de Mano & Pekiti de Mano Jan. 15 Feb. 12 Mar. 19 Apr. 16 May 21 July 16 Aug. 20 Sep. 17 Oct. 15 Nov. 19 For more info visit the Pekiti-Tirsia International website at: www.pekiti.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. 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