Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:04:41 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #27 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2000 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. about Master Petrilli (Ronald Mckinnie) 2. Re: GM Guba and Percival Pabelo UK workshop 29th January - cancellation (Bill Lowery) 3. RE: Modern Arnis International Summer Camp (Danny Anderson) 4. Roger Carpenter in Iraq ? (Ray Terry) 5. RE: Chris Petrilli videos (Bobbe Edmonds) 6. Origins of the word "escrima"? (marko.ronkainen@nokia.com) 7. The Ladder of Success (1@msfencing.org) 8. Re: Origins of the word "escrima"? (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:58:10 -0500 From: "Ronald Mckinnie" To: Subject: [Eskrima] about Master Petrilli Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have seen one Paladin press video where Master Petrili and a young lady named Sheryl demonstrated various stick locks, it was quite impressive and innovative because at some point sheryl resisted and was instantly punished for it by being put into a flowing counter to her counter. Believe me Master Petrili could do the same thing to a grown man. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Bill Lowery" To: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:17:47 -0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: GM Guba and Percival Pabelo UK workshop 29th January - cancellation Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi All, Just a quick note to let you know that due to Val being unable to arrange a visa in time, the workshop with GM Danny Guba and Percival Pableo is cancelled. GM Guba will be back in Newcastle on the wekend of 19/20th of March to conduct the Doce Pares Spring Camp which will cover knife and the Dumog elements of the DP system. Bill --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Danny Anderson" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:27:26 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Modern Arnis International Summer Camp Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Modern Arnis International Summer Camp 2005 June 16 - 19, 2005  (Thurday - Sunday) Brevard College, Brevard, North Carolina Hosted by Dee Childress and Dan Anderson Instructor line up:   Senior Master Roland Dantes (Phillipines)   Datu Shishir Inocalla   Datu Dieter Knuttel (Germany)   Master At Arms Bram Frank    Guro Robert Quinn   Senior Master Dan Anderson Special Guest Instructors:   Senseis Doug Perry & Phillip Jerome - Shorin Ryu Special Guest:   Robert W. Smith - noted martial arts author and authority on Chinese martial arts. Cost: $295 includes food and lodging at Brevard College (note: food and board staying at a hotel would cost at least this much.  Camp fee includes training, food and board and camp t-shirt.)  $195 for commuter students (someone living in the area not staying at the college) $200 spouse not training but staying with someone who is. (activites such as tours and trips have been arranged for spouses while training is occuring) Registration, orientation, dinner, and training session on Thursday night. 7 training sessions each on both Friday and Saturday. Special training session on Sunday. Special guest instructors Doug Perry and Phillip Jerome will be going over the bo (6 foot long staff).  Practitioners of Modern Arnis will readily see how the bo relates to the 12 angles of attack and flow of Modern Arnis.   Modern Arnis instructors will cover topics such as MA basics, sinawali boxing, classical styles within Modern Arnis, tapi-tapi, reversal techniques, Modern Arnis blade applications, and much, much more. This camp will show the richness and diversity of application that is in the art of Modern Arnis.  This is going to be a very exciting camp.  Aside from the Modern Arnis instructors, the instruction provided by Senseis Perry and Jerome will show us how to formulate our own application of the Filipino staff art, sibat.  A note here: Sensei Doug Perry is one of the few karate practitioners mentioned in Robert W. Smith's most recent book, Martial Musings.   Words fail to convey what a special honor it is to have Mr. Smith guest at our event.  His literary influence on the martial arts in America has long been underrated.  He has been a driving force in the early national formation of judo organizations as well as having written the first books on internal martial arts in the English language.  I will have more details forthcoming as to when he'll be there as I get them.     A pdf file will available for download from my website, www.danandersonkarate.com within a few days.  I will be mailing hard copy flyers as well.  If you have any questions, you can email me at the above website or at dan_anderson111852@yahoo.com.  I will be happy to answer all inquiries.   Yours, Dan Anderson, co-host --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:52:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Roger Carpenter in Iraq ? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I heard recently there was a letter in Black Belt magazine from Karate legend Roger Carpenter about his current assignment in Iraq. I understand that he mentioned that he was also teaching Inayan Eskrima while he was in Iraq. Master Carpenter and Suro Inay were long and close friends. I looked for it in the March issue (the issue currently available), but didn't find the letter. Perhaps it is in the Feb or Jan issue. Anyone have a copy of that issue/letter that they can share with the list? Thanks. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Bobbe Edmonds" To: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:33:32 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Chris Petrilli videos Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >"There is a new video out by Paladin Press called "Crashing the Lines: The Art and Science of Doce Pares Eskrima". The author is Christopher J. Petrilli. 1) Anybody has seen the videos? Are they good? 2) Who knows Master Petrilli? I he likely to produce a good instructional video?"< Michael Koblic ------------------------ Hi Michael. I am a student of Chris Petrilli (the Pacific Northwest group), and I own the videos as well. He is an excellent instructor, and the vids are great. Chris's forte is in the close range Corto Kurbada style, with stick compressions, locks and throws. He is a longtime student of GM Cacoy (8th Deg. ranked instructor) and lived in Cebu for a couple of years to train with him. His sparring patterns are phenomenal, and the compressions must be felt to be believed. There are many a night that Chris sent me (and anybody else who trained with him) home after class with an indention in their arms, legs, neck. The title "Crashing the Lines" denotes a couple of things, one is Chris's preference to go straight to Corto as quickly as he can, and he doesn't stay in Largo for longer than a beat or two. The second is his ability to "crash" or force an opponent's attack another direction & usually have them compressed & thrown before they know it's happening. The tapes themselves show some excellent insights to his style, but alot of it is advanced material, in my opinion. Beginning students in Eskrima might have a difficult time with some of the info because it deals with multiple concepts at once: Entries, striking patterns, getting the lock or compression. If you are still working on basic lines & footwork, this will be confusing in some cases. On top of that, if you are unfamiliar with compressions, they can be difficult to achieve right off the bat without practice. But believe me when I say they are worth the while. Chris DOES slow down & show how it's done, of course, but it was difficult for us who trained with him back when he lived here in the Pacific Northwest. Getting the info off a video will require EFFORT and PATIENCE, not to mention a willing partner. Also, much of Chris's footwork & application comes out of Aikido & Pentjak Silat as well as FMA, and you must have the fluidity of technique to understand what you are seeing. It's material to train off for a long time, and Chris opens up lines to explore your own methods of application as well. Again, I would recommend it for intermediate to advanced students. Something that sticks out about these tapes is the camera angles. They shoot from the front as well as the top when demonstrating technique, and you get a clarity rarely seen in a MA instructional vid. I found the difference to be really helpful, and saw some things that made sense for my own technique as well. Overall, I rate these tapes as excellent, and even though I am an advanced student of the man, I grabbed them as soon as they came out. Chris currently lives in Sedona, AZ, and if you liked the stuff on the tapes, your best bet is to either have him up for a seminar, or fly out to train with him privately. I can give you my personal guarantee that it will be time and money well spent. The tapes don't do justice to his actual skill even remotely, and crossing sticks with the man will open your eyes in ways you will not believe. You can contact Chris through his website: http://www.fmaa.net Hope this helps. Please feel free to contact me if you have any other questions. Bobbe Edmonds Edmond Martial Arts Academy www.EMAA.us "And now" Cried Max, "Let the wild rumpus start!" --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:19:28 +0200 From: To: Subject: [Eskrima] Origins of the word "escrima"? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I've often heard that it comes from the Latin word for "skirmish" but no one has ever told me what this word is. Does anyone know? I've tried with all the Latin dictionaries I have and some online and have not found a word that would resemble "escrima". So far I've concluded that it really must come from Spanish "esgrima" for fencing. A synonyms for English word "skirmish" is "scrimmage" which sounds a bit like "escrima" but what would be the latin equivalent for that? One translation is "velitatio", which doesn't sound like "escrima" at all. Anyone? - Marko --__--__-- Message: 7 From: <1@msfencing.org> To: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:21:46 -0600 Organization: 1@msfencing.org Subject: [Eskrima] The Ladder of Success Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I just read the following post from an unnamed person on another list and thought I'd post it over here. ------- The Ladder of Success Dr. John Ng, a well-known kung-fu grandmaster, once said, "Many people training today in martial arts are like the person who begins to climb a ladder, while setting fire to the bottom of this ladder. He sets the fire so there is no way but up. Which then forces him to climb very fast. He reaches the platform or level above, only to find there is another level beyond the one reached. He now needs to pull up the ladder to climb higher, but to his dismay, finds his ladder burned and gone. He is now at a certain level yet cannot go higher, because he cannot go lower." The ladder and its rungs represent the basics which have been proven to work time and time again. These basics come from a time when people faced the threat of death every day. I am not opposed to creating new methods, but often we discard old ideas for the sake of the latest invention. And we do this without proof that the latest method has any merit. ------- Blessings, Rez Johnson "Standing guard on old, forgotten roads, that no one travels anymore." THE FENCING MASTER by Arturo Perez Rez Johnson, M d'A Headmaster: Mississippi Academy of Arms (Mississippi Fencing Academy) President: United States Traditional Fencing Association Certified Fencing Instructor: (USTFA, TFI, AAI, USFCA) Certified Fencing Master Apprentice: (USTFA, USFCA) Teaching Classical Fencing and Historical Swordsmanship since 1980 Modern Sport Fencing Coach 1980 - 2002 Mississippi Academy of Arms P.O. Box 955 Pelahatchie, MS 39145-0955 E-Mail: 1@MSFencing.org Academy Website: http://MSFencing.org USTFA Website: http://traditionalfencing.org --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Origins of the word "escrima"? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:50:10 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > I've often heard that it comes from the Latin word for "skirmish" > but no one has ever told me what this word is. Does anyone know? > I've tried with all the Latin dictionaries I have and some online > and have not found a word that would resemble "escrima". So far I've > concluded that it really must come from Spanish "esgrima" for fencing. > > A synonyms for English word "skirmish" is "scrimmage" which sounds a > bit like "escrima" but what would be the latin equivalent for that? > One translation is "velitatio", which doesn't sound like "escrima" at > all. > > Anyone? I believe you are correct. It has nothing to do with skirmish, but comes from the spanish word esgrima. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest