Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:03:22 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #39 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2000 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Belts and dans (Steve Kohn) 2. Re: Falacy of hardwood (steven ledwith) 3. Foghorn Leghorn (Ray Terry) 4. hardwood vs. rattan (Brian Hamilton) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:02:49 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Kohn Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Belts and dans To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net C'mon Ray! I didn't call you a "master of apples and oranges". I just didnt agree with your comparison. When I said "respectfully"...I meant it. -Steve Ray Terry wrote: > I only see belts useful for children. If they do not know they are getting > better they most likely will become discouraged and give up. > An adult does not need this. Piaget felt that children were just short adults. I'd say that many adults are just tall children... :) People (children and adults) learn in different ways and require differing motivations. Ray "a Master of apples and oranges to some" Terry rterry@idiom.com _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:05:08 -0800 (PST) From: steven ledwith Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Falacy of hardwood To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Try Pignut Hickory saplings. I make bows out of this wood so I also tried it against some good rattan. I exploded the rattan time after time against the hickory. What most don't know is that hardwoods have an ideal mositure content for different purposes. If it is to dry it will break more easily than if it is wetter. So go out and cut a 1" hickory sapling, debark it and set it to dry for a week then oil it with linseed oil like Formby's. --- Brian Hamilton wrote: > OK, I've always heard, and was a proponent of, > everything is inferior to rattan. I was one Ebay > the > other day (what a delightful way to make time at > work > pass) and got sucked into bidding and winning > Kamagong > (AKA "Ironwood") sticks, ignoring my own rule of > never > using hardwood. What happens? I shatter the life > out > of one 30 minutes into a training session. > > My posed question is: What is everyones take on the > whole hardwood vs. rattan battle? Also did I just > get > a bum pair of sticks; are the tropical woods hard > enough for real use? > > thanks > > -Brian > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile > phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2000 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:30:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Foghorn Leghorn Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > C'mon Ray! I didn't call you a "master of apples and oranges". I just didnt > agree with your comparison. > > When I said "respectfully"...I meant it. Was it the famous pundit Foghorn Leghorn that always said, "That was a joke, joke that is..." But thanks. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:46:41 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hamilton To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] hardwood vs. rattan Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "Just curious... what did you hit it against?" I broke my stick against rattan meeting angles. Luckily I had decent footwork and was out of the way. I learned this lesson (hardwood breakage is unpredictable) by watching a guy learn it the hard way during a Bando Boar Staff seminar years ago. The guy hard blocked an angle 1 and I cruised right through, I had a "padded" 6 foot staff for feeding. I didn't hurt him but for a second I thought I broke his clavicle since he dropped. His buddy was using the matching stick and later that day it broke. If I remember right Doc looked over and told him he was all right and get up and get back in line. lol "Check out Bahi. A rattan-like hardwood. Not quite as heavy as Kamagong, but it will last far longer in practice or in battle. Ray Terry" Cool; I'll check it out. Any good place to get it? I only trust stuff through KIL and I don't believe they carry Bahi. Thank you for the advice. -Brian __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest