Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:03:40 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #58 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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RE: FMA Digest article (George Storm) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:27:55 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Maddox To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Two yips Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Marc Denny wrote: >Woof All: > >Umm, as a matter of historical accuracy, the Jewish calendar is currently at >about 5965 (sorry I'm a terrible Jew and don't know the exact number) which >means it is about 1365 years older. 5765, from another not-very-observant MOT ;-) >PS: I'm a Dragon Someone who knows about these things IIRC tells me the >years also go through the 5 elements and that my birth year makes me a Water >Dragon. Water? Sheesh, Crafty's a old geezer, ain't he? (I'm a wood dragon, confirmed at this site: http://www.index.force9.co.uk/mayflower/zodiac.htm, which seems to have its facts straight, for anybody who's curious where they fit). Keep knocking those youngsters around, Sir Dog! 8-) xin nian kuai le! ND -- Andrew Maddox, madsox squiggle radix point net DC-area martial artist? Check us out and join us at http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/DCMartialArts/ --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:53:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] sports bodies promoting human smuggling Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net FYI... I've been contacted in the past about supporting these teams. Perhaps you have, too. =================================================== Pak sports bodies promoting human smuggling [World News]: Islamabad, Feb 9 : Pakistani sport bodies are being accused of using their tours abroad to promote a human smuggling racket. Norwegian Embassy officials have reportedly approached the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) with the charge that human smuggling is being carried out in the garb of sports teams, notably taekwondo and judo. Sources told the Dawn that the embassy had sent a letter to the FIA passport circle in Rawalpindi, saying that some taekwondo and judo teams recently visited Norway ostensibly to take part in a competition. But their members did not return after the event, it stated. The embassy urged the FIA to interrogate the management of such clubs and verify credentials of players who had applied for visas to take part in tournaments in Western countries, the sources said. "We will certainly net all those who are involved in human smuggling in the garb of attending sporting events abroad," Deputy Director of FIA passport circle, Rawalpindi, Akbar Khan Hoti told the paper. -- Asia News International (ANI) --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Absolom Jones" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:11:42 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] FMA Digest article about a college arnis program Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Punong Guro Steven Dowd wote the following: >Greetings all. The new issue of FMAdigest is onsight for non-subscribers. >There is an article that I >would think would be very interesting to digest >and forum people in it. "Escrima-Kenpo-Arnis Goes >to College in New York", >though all the articles are interesting in this issue. www.fmadigest.com > >www.arnisbalite.com Hello Steve, I took your advice and read the article mentioned above. Good information with an nice blending of humility and self-confidence. I am somewhat baffled however because I did not recognize anyone from this forum being mentioned. OTOH, the fact that there has been an arnis program running at Erie Community College for 17 continuous years and it is a credit bearing course was very impressive. How many credit bearing college arnis-eskrima-kali programs are currently running in the USA? Whether the number is 1, 2, 3, or 4 and regardless of which system(s) represented, I am impressed that we have them available. How many college based clubs are teaching arnis-eskrima-kali systems within the USA? It is so easy to focus on negative things, but my hat is off to you, Steve, for putting forward such a positive article about a college based arnis program that has staying power! Absolom --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Peter Gow" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:31:47 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Sore Wrist Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Michael, Did you hear the bone break and have you had your wrist x-rayed to check for any small breaks or fractures. When my hand was broken things that helped. 1. Squeezing a ball of wool - its soft and does not put  pressure back on hand as does squeezing a ball - then building up to a squash ball etc. As the fingers move so do the muscles in the forearms and the ligaments and tendons in the hand, wrist and forearm. 2. Squeezing, flexing ,rotating and side ways movement of the hand. Alternatively seek medical advice, maybe your doctor will prescribe nurofen to reduce the swelling and allow movement of the joint. Regards, Peter Gow Australia  --__--__-- Message: 5 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net, escrima_arnis@topica.com From: Alex.France@kp.org Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:38:26 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: True Masters Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In ED Vol.12 #55, Bot wrote: >>a real master wouldn't even let you know he is one.<< Reminds me of a series of telephone conversations I had with a particular gentleman about ten years ago. He always started by saying, "Alex, this is your friend, xxx." >From our conversations, I pegged him to be a modest manong from the Stockton-Fresno area who really knew his art, so I wanted to include him in my Spotlight on the Masters seminar series that brought true masters and grandmasters to Vallejo, CA. (Why travel the world to meet these exceptional people by myself, when I can bring them to one location and share them with my fellow practitioners?) For a newspaper advertisement, I was prepared to include him as Mister xxx among a list of Grandmaster xxx's. It was fine with him. I later found out from PG Eddie Lastra that this fellow was a "true master", so I upgraded his title from Mister to Master for the advertisement. He was still the only master in this list of grandmasters but he made no mention of it in our subsequent conversations. It was only at the day of his seminar that I found out from others who he really was. "...this is your friend, Ramiro..." When you think about it, Grandmaster Ramiro Estalilla's self-description really says it all. Alex(ander Bautista Bayot France) --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Ken Borowiec/Rudolph Research Analytical" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] FMA Digest article about a college arnis program Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:55:35 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Absolom Is this filipine? Could you please translate? I'm trying to learn as much as I can. Kenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Absolom Jones" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: [Eskrima] FMA Digest article about a college arnis program > Punong Guro Steven Dowd wote the following: > > >Greetings all. The new issue of FMAdigest is onsight for non-subscribers. > >There is an article that I >would think would be very interesting to digest > >and forum people in it. "Escrima-Kenpo-Arnis Goes >to College in New York", > >though all the articles are interesting in this issue. www.fmadigest.com > > > >www.arnisbalite.com > > Hello Steve, > > I took your advice and read the article mentioned above. Good information > with an nice blending of humility and self-confidence. I am somewhat > baffled however because I did not recognize anyone from this forum being > mentioned. OTOH, the fact that there has been an arnis program running at > Erie Community College for 17 continuous years and it is a credit bearing > course was very impressive. > How many credit bearing college arnis-eskrima-kali programs are currently > running in the USA? Whether the number is 1, 2, 3, or 4 and regardless of > which system(s) represented, I am impressed that we have them available. > How many college based clubs are teaching arnis-eskrima-kali systems within > the USA? It is so easy to focus on negative things, but my hat is off to > you, Steve, for putting forward such a positive article about a college > based arnis program that has staying power! > > Absolom > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:33:44 +0300 From: "Steven C. Drape" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Huang Ti (Di) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Just an aside on the Emperor Huang Di. There were two major ones. One lived (maybe) from about 2697 - 2597 BCE or 2674 - 2575 BCE. He is venerated as one of the founders of religious Taoism (tao-jiao) and the alleged author of the Huang-di nei-jing, the first medical treatise in the history of China. Furthermore Huang-di is credited with the creation of mankind, the invention of writing, the compass, the pottery wheel, and the breeding of silkworms. He is also considered to have been a determining influence in establishing Chinese social order, in that he allocated a name to each family. In other words, he is credited with just about everything important! Another Huang Ti, who we are sure existed, is Shi Huang Di. He was Emperor from 221 B. C., yet he is a almost a mythical figure in Chinese history. Among other things, he is credited with inventing fire, having 25 sons who became the 25 main families in ancient China, standardizing coinage, measures and weights, and developing Chinese calligraphy. He actually only ruled for about 12 years, and his major effort, besides starting to build the great Wall, was attempting to burn all the books in China at the time. Steve --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:35:57 -0800 (PST) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] FMA Digest article about a college arnis program To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Regarding the article about the college arnis program, the subject of the article and interview, as well as the author and teacher of the curriculum in question is Dr. Jerome Barber, a Modern Arnis Lakan Tatlo (BB 3rd Degree) instructor under Prof. Remy Presas, as well as an instructor in other martial arts systems as well. As far as I know, he is not a member of the ED forum, and he has his own organization and forum. Jay de Leon Ken Borowiec/Rudolph Research Analytical wrote:> Absolom Is this filipine? Could you please translate? I'm trying to learn as much as I can. Kenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Absolom Jones" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: [Eskrima] FMA Digest article about a college arnis program > Punong Guro Steven Dowd wote the following: > > >Greetings all. The new issue of FMAdigest is onsight for non-subscribers. > >There is an article that I >would think would be very interesting to digest > >and forum people in it. "Escrima-Kenpo-Arnis Goes >to College in New York", > >though all the articles are interesting in this issue. www.fmadigest.com > > > >www.arnisbalite.com > > Hello Steve, > > I took your advice and read the article mentioned above. Good information > with an nice blending of humility and self-confidence. I am somewhat > baffled however because I did not recognize anyone from this forum being > mentioned. OTOH, the fact that there has been an arnis program running at > Erie Community College for 17 continuous years and it is a credit bearing > course was very impressive. > How many credit bearing college arnis-eskrima-kali programs are currently > running in the USA? Whether the number is 1, 2, 3, or 4 and regardless of > which system(s) represented, I am impressed that we have them available. > How many college based clubs are teaching arnis-eskrima-kali systems within > the USA? It is so easy to focus on negative things, but my hat is off to > you, Steve, for putting forward such a positive article about a college > based arnis program that has staying power! > > Absolom > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "George Storm" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] FMA Digest article Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:45:06 -0800 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ab, Doctor Jerom Barber was mentioned in that article. He was an active member in the eskrima digest until just a few years ago. <><><><> George S. >I took your advice and read the article mentioned above. Good information >with an nice blending of humility and self-confidence. I am somewhat >baffled however because I did not recognize anyone from this forum being >mentioned. OTOH, the fact that there has been an arnis program running at >Erie Community College for 17 continuous years and it is a credit bearing >course was very impressive. >How many credit bearing college arnis-eskrima-kali programs are currently >running in the USA? Whether the number is 1, 2, 3, or 4 and regardless of >which system(s) represented, I am impressed that we have them available. >How many college based clubs are teaching arnis-eskrima-kali systems within >the USA? It is so easy to focus on negative things, but my hat is off to >you, Steve, for putting forward such a positive article about a college >based arnis program that has staying power! > >Absolom >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest