Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:04:19 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #94 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2100 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ground vs. cop vs. MMA vs. training (Shawn Keren) 2. Re: Eskrima classes in Plano, Allen, or McKinney Texas areas (David Beck) 3. Off the wall questions and Socratic Method (Gary Hudgins) 4. Re: classers (silentflute) 5. FMA Training in San Antonio TX? (Tom) 6. Ground vs. cop vs. MMA vs. training (Marc MacYoung) 7. Re: Ground vs. cop vs. MMA vs. training (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Shawn Keren" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Ground vs. cop vs. MMA vs. training Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:53:11 -0800 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Yeah, maybe so. However the points he makes about ground fighting against multiple opponents and fantasy are valid. ----- Original Message ----- From: "All Blade" To: Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:24 PM Subject: re: [Eskrima] Ground vs. cop vs. MMA vs. training > >Okay...first off, remember I train cops. > > > As retired CHP Guro Blade wishes he had a quarter for every time he heard > that one. > > Guro Blade > Always cuts deep > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:13:47 -0800 (PST) From: David Beck To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Eskrima classes in Plano, Allen, or McKinney Texas areas Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Or I dabble a little teaching arnis once a month outside of my Hapkido. Or you can travel a little farther to my teacher, Guro Anding de Leon, in Garland (Remy Presas was his teacher.) I'm not sure exactly where Mark Lynn is teaching, he's another possibilty (mlynn61@sbcglobal.net). Mark has studied a lot with both Remy and Ernesto Presas. David N. Beck dnbeck@beckmartialarts.com http://www.beckmartialarts.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:23:57 -0600 (Central Standard Time) From: "Gary Hudgins" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Off the wall questions and Socratic Method Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net ****My friend Bobee Edmonds up in the Seattle area has a student who must stay up into the wee hours of the morning figuring out what bizarre questions to ask during the next class...He asks the kinds of questions which stop the whole class to the point that they turn to him and look like where did that come from...? ****So I guess in answer to your posting is how much patience do you have and how much time do you actually want to spend teaching practical applications or just answering questions and posing questions...? If you get one or two people like the chap I just mentioned you may be spending the whole class answering what ifs....This is just my humble opinion of course.. Two suggestions... First teaching Socratic Method to newbies....You will frustrate them to point of their not being interested in learning... Spoon feed some material and at the same time.. give them something to think about for the next lesson. .. then at the next lesson...let them show you what they came up with. The socratic method is asking questions and having the student work out or show you the answer. Take a first grade student who maybe knows that 1 &1 = 2 and ask him what 3 25 x 7.5 divided by 3 is and you are wasting your time. They have to have some knowledge to build on. For the off the wall questions>>> "That's a great question, but if I kept diverting from my lesson plan, we will not be able to cover everything I planned. How about you do some self research on that question and show us what you came up with at the next session." Then at the next session ask him to show you what he came up with... tell him that is interesting or bull as the case dictates and or/correct him or move on. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "silentflute" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] classers Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:34:11 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Fanju, Please check out Crows Martial Arts www.crowsmartialarts.com also. Hope this helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Alejandro" To: Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Eskrima] classers > Fanju, > > I would like to recommend a training group in Dallas known as Dallas > Combatives (www.dallascombatives.com). They are an affiliate of Warriors > Way International which is a very well respected group of martial artists. > In particular, this training group focuses on Sayoc Kali but also trains > the other arts associated with Warriors Way International: jun fan gung > fu, Lacoste/Inosanto Kali, Maphilindo Silat and JKD grappling. > > The instructors there are professional and know their material well. > > Good Luck, > Aaron Alejandro > www.execselfdefense.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fanjuraji Bakbakarma" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:00 AM > Subject: [Eskrima] classers > > >> hello I am new. >> Interested in the sticks and knife in Plano, Allen or Mckinney Texas >> areas. >> Any information on teachers of Filipino Arts would be nice. >> Thank. >> >> Fanju >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >> _______________________________________________ >> Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members >> Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >> Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >> Standard disclaimers apply >> http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Tom" To: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:07:20 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] FMA Training in San Antonio TX? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I will be vacationing in San Antonio TX this summer. Does anyone know of a good FMA school I could train at during my stay? Salamat Po. tom --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Marc MacYoung" To: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:01:16 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Ground vs. cop vs. MMA vs. training Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I said... >>Okay...first off, remember I train cops. > > As retired CHP Guro Blade wishes he had a quarter for every time he heard > that one. > Guro Blade > Always cuts deep And would he who speaks of himself in the third party give change when shown my ASLET and IPDTA membership cards? Or would he-who-must-not-be -named be happy with photos of me teaching at Cops International? Or was that just general musings on your part that just happened to occur at the same time I wrote something? And BTW, while I do teach DT, my main thrust is de-escalation and confrontation management. I have a serious problem with the gap between verbal judo, defensive tactics, the use of force continuum and departmental policies. I'm trying to bridge that gap in a way that allows line officers and administration to work together instead of being at odds. This is why I am returning to school to get my degree -- not in martial arts, but psych. Not as sexy or macho as teaching defensive tactics, but a whole lot more useful. Looks like your cut went a little shallow on this one. M --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Ground vs. cop vs. MMA vs. training To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:01:12 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Marc mentions ASLET and IPDTA. I'm not familiar with ipdta, but I've been a member of aslet since they were first founded. Mas Ayoob was my sponsor. A good group to support and participate, if you are so inclined. As for Guro Blade, it is actually kind of funny for me to sit back and watch the interaction. His last name actually is "Blade", but no one ever considers that as a possibility. I must admit that his help and direction, along with that of my friendly LEO training partners back east, have helped open a lot of doors for me in the LEO training area. And, yes, one of the things we frequently joke about is how many people out in MA-land claim to train Cops or Special Forces or SEALs or PJs or... Guro Blade is a old curmudgeon that likes to shake things up a bit whether with his screen name or comments to the list, and I don't think he'll mind me letting that slip. If you ever get to train with him he is likely to shake you up more. :) Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest