Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:06:23 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #105 - 13 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Re: Of Guns, Goloks, & Greasy Gunk (WoodyTX) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Peter Gow" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:01:17 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Cards Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Patrick have you thought about using a scanner to swipe cards that you issue with a number on it. You can scan the card number to an excel spread sheet. You could also rig up the hand held scanner so that students scan as they enter for class or swipe the card across the scanner a little bit of imagination goes a long way with this. You could also use an MS-Access front end - the number is entered into the form after being scanned. The number is then checked against the data base to see if it is valid and paid up. The other alternative is to use something like the HK or Singapore travel card where you can put money onto the card and at each visit the card is scanned and one training session is taken off the total - a lot more expensive!!!!! Good Luck. Peter Gow Australia --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:30:26 -0800 (PST) From: jason couture To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] balisongs Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Gerry - I love balisongs! Yeah, they're fun to flip around but, that's not what I think is the best part of 'em. The blade is totally protected by the handles when not in use and with just a flip........you have a blade that will not fold up on you. It's like having a folding fixed blade (if that makes any sense). The laws here in NC make it so I can't carry my favorite blades. I think it's a shame. I guess we can all thank the movie industry for selling to the public that the balisong is a weapon used only by gangsters and low-lifes. A knife is a knife, is a knife.... I can use a pen to bring a person to his knees or jam out his eyeball, shouldn't we ban pens too? I honestly feel that no matter how hard we try to fight the knife laws they still won't let up on 'em. I also think it's funny how you can buy a blade that's sold as a "combat fighter" or "extreme fighter" model and it's legal to carry but, a knife called balisong ( breaking horn knife ) isn't legal to carry. Go figure? **JASON COUTURE** __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:31:37 -0600 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Chris Cubley Subject: [Eskrima] Training in Nashville TN Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello all, Myself and a friend of mine are looking for someone in the Nashville TN area to train with in Kali / Escrima / Arnis. If anyone is aware of a good instructor in the area, I would very much appreciate the information. Thanks in advance, C. Cubley --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] balisongs To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:32:06 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Be careful with balisongs. Depending on where you live it could be a felony to carry or even own one. Silly that such laws exist, but something to be aware of. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:40:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] knife defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net This is good knife defense! http://mfile.akamai.com/10676/wmv/ondemandwm.chumtv.com/2005/mar5/mar0805-copdwight220.asx --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:28:54 -0500 From: buz_ed_alias@mac.com To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Of Guns, Goloks, & Greasy Gunk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Several great threads and comments going. Joe says: <> Joe hit this one right on the head. I give silent thanks to my first rifle instructor, Mrs. Bishop, just about every time I handle a firearm. She wouldn't let anyone touch the .22 bolt action target rifles we competed with until we had nomenclature down cold and could recite, and demonstrate we understood, all the safety rules. When she first handed me a rifle with the bolt removed so I could demonstrate safe handling procedures I about pooped myself; she was an intimidating lady who expected all the lines to be toed every single time. Funny thing is that demanding teachers who expect superior performance like Mrs. B. are usually the rule in NRA certified instructor circles. Greg underlines the point: <> Amen. One of the first things most good instructors teach you is to check your ego at the door. Some of the nicest, most easy going folks I've met could shoot the buttons off your shirt in seconds at 15 meters. They definitely inspire good manners. Michael K. responds to my review of a Kasper folder, saying: <> I basically agree, though I think there's room for some texture. I don't mind non-textured handles when the handle is rounded or otherwise provides something other than a slab to give my hand purchase along the handle's length. Flat slabs don't do that so your hand depends of stuff like the finger cut out to maintain fine blade orientation. Does the job almost all the time, but I'm kinda belt and suspenders about carry blades. No doubt this view has been tainted by extreme situations; I've known several folks who've had to pull out a folder while wearing wet, dirty gloves and hanging on a muddy rope so they could cut hair or clothing that was hung up in a rappel device. Worst case scenario stuff, for sure. <> Sounds like I'd better pick up on a golok. . . . Gerry asks: <> I own several and like to play with 'em, but won't use 'em as a carry blade. Think first and foremost I don't want to be a pin away from knife failure; the two pins that attach handles to blade have too much going on to suit me. Not only are they the pivot point around which the handles rotate, they also provide all the torsional support once the blade is open. The pivot point around which most folders rotate is far more substantial, while other structural elements of most other folders provides much more structural integrity. Combine that with misguided laws, fears, and opprobrium attached to butterflies and I think other designs end up making more sense. One proviso, however. My carry folders are all utility knives first and fallback fighters second. I need 'em to be stout to stand up to hacking through this and that most days. Perhaps if a balisong was carried, and used exclusively for, fighting, some of my wear and tear concerns would be mitigated. Regards, Buz Grover --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:43:36 -0500 (EST) From: kenbocan@dsuper.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Training in Manhattan Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have a studenty visiting NYC soon, specifically Manhattan, and he wanted to know where, if any, are any schools teaching FMA in that area and their contact information. Thank You Philip Gelinas Montreal --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:00:55 +0000 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Cards Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net yes the scanner is an option im considering with the KickSoft software. I know of one gym that uses this and it works. Using a mac im hoping that it will link into my filemaker pro 7. It also allows you to use a door swipe card system, although that may be for future development. i visited a Tae Kwon Do school in LA recently and they were signing people up on 3 year contracts. i dont want to do that my way but the 6 month one might be an option. Otherwise i'll stick with the monthly with 30 day notice to quit. Thanks. BTW trained with Nino Pilla from Adelaide recently, do you know each other? On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:01:17 +0000, Peter Gow wrote: > Patrick have you thought about using a scanner to swipe cards that you > issue with a number on it. You can scan the card number to an excel > spread sheet. -- iPat live for today, live for tomorrow "Truth is a pathless land. Man cannot come to it through any organisation, through any creed, through any dogma, priest or ritual, nor through any philosophic knowledge or psychological technique. He has to find it through the mirror of relationship, through the understanding of the contents of his own mind, through observation and not through intellectual analysis or introspective dissection..." --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:41:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Guns Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Glad to see that guns, one of my fav FMA topics, is being discussed again. :) Obtaining proper training is as important in the firearms arena as it is in the stick & knife arena. For the list of many of the firearms training schools in North America see http://martialartsresource.com/firearms.htm. Some that I can personally recommend are Gunsite, LFI (Mas Ayoob), Thunder Ranch, DTI (John Farnam) and Yavapai Firearms Academy (Louie Awerbuck). Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "All Blade" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:36:52 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] old fart Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Guro Blade cannot disagree with Guro Terry, I am an old fart. Pray to your God that you are also lucky enough to survive into curmudgeonhood. Guro J. Blade Always cuts deep _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "Mike Casto" To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Training in Nashville TN Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:31:04 -0500 Organization: I.M.P.A.C.T. Academy of Martial Arts Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I'm not sure who else might be there but I'll be passing through tonight or tomorrow and then again next weekend on Saturday or Sunday. If you'd be interested in hooking up for an hour or two, we should be able to arrange something :-) Mike -----Original Message----- From: Chris Cubley [mailto:cubleyc@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:32 AM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Training in Nashville TN Hello all, Myself and a friend of mine are looking for someone in the Nashville TN area to train with in Kali / Escrima / Arnis. If anyone is aware of a good instructor in the area, I would very much appreciate the information. Thanks in advance, C. Cubley _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:35:52 -0600 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Blades... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Don't know if I fit the image of "more experienced", but here goes. I don't carry a balisong, although I like fiddling with them and really appreciate the skills some folks have. However, if you carry a balisong, and you ever get searched by the police department, it kinda screams out "tough guy". Of course, so do the Emerson CQC and Cold Steel Recon I used to carry. The non-tactical CS Voyager is equally nasty, but looks like it belongs to someone less likely to use it on another person. Once you've drawn it and done your little flippy-thing, the balisong is just another knife (at least in my hands). I see no reason whatsoever to carry something that says "this guy thinks about knife fighting". Woody On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:44:43 -0500, Gerry Chenevert wrote: I'm wondering what the more experienced people would say > about the balisong, as I have students who swear by them, and others who > cringe at their mention. I live in MA, and we have legal ramifications to > think about as well. > > Gerry --__--__-- Message: 13 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:48:34 -0600 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Of Guns, Goloks, & Greasy Gunk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Excellent points, Buz and others. I had no idea I'd start this with one firearm comment. :-O One addendum: I tend to carry a folding utility knife (www.superknife.com). I try to save my defense blade for defense use. One instructor put it this way: "Can I borrow your gun? I need to hammer a nail." When he got the expected response, he added, "Then why do you use your defense blade for opening boxes?" Woody On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:28:54 -0500, buz_ed_alias@mac.com wrote: > One proviso, however. My carry folders are all utility knives first and fallback fighters second. I need 'em to be stout to stand up to hacking through this and that most days. Perhaps if a balisong was carried, and used exclusively for, fighting, some of my wear and tear concerns would be mitigated. > > Regards, > > Buz Grover --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest