Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:24:58 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #116 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2100 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. FMA (Scott S. Pena) 2. WMAA US Training Camp (James Miller) 3. Re: Carrying knives in UK (iPat) 4. RE:Bladed weapons: How do you bring it back to Europe or US? (Van Harn, Steve) 5. KNIVES & BLADED WEAPONS LAWS (Clint Cayson) 6. Re: KNIVES & BLADED WEAPONS LAWS (Jared Dame) 7. Re: ???? (Kes41355@aol.com) 8. RE: Re: fighting knives and "slash vs. thrust" (John Johnson) 9. Re: KNIVES & BLADED WEAPONS LAWS (Ray) 10. Re: KNIVES & BLADED WEAPONS LAWS (Shawn Keren) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Scott S. Pena" Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:34:01 -0600 (CST) To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] FMA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I am relocating to the Athens, Georgia area and looking for an instructor in FMA. Does anyone know of an FMA instructor in the Athens, Georgia area? Scott Saul --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:26:17 -0500 From: James Miller To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] WMAA US Training Camp Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I'm proud to announce the 2005 WMAA US Training Camp & 40th Birthday Bash! The camp information is as follows: When is the camp? June 3 - 5, 2005 Where are we training? WMAA Headquarters (Horizon Martial Arts) 252 Center Road West Seneca (Buffalo), NY 14224 What to bring? Arnis Sticks Training Dagger Elbow & Knee Pads Focus Pads & Gloves Cost? WMAA Members $149 by May 17, 2005 $199 after May 17, 2005 Call about Group rates. Non - Members $199 by May 17, 2005 $249 after May 17, 2005 Who are the Insrtuctors? Datu Tim Hartman has been a personal student of Grand Master Remy Presas for over 15 years. He has been featured in Black Belt and Filipino Martial Arts Magazine. In addition to teaching in the United States Mr. Hartman has also taught in Canada, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, and England. Since Grand Master Presas' retirement Mr. Hartman has formed the World Modern Arnis Alliance to help preserve the foundations of the art and share it with the next generation of students. For more about Datu Hartman go to www.DatuHartman.com Punong -Guro Rick Manglinong started training with GM Presas in the 70's on the West Coast. In addition to being a 5th degree under the WMAA, he also holds a 6th degree under GM Ernesto Presas in the art of Kombaton. PG Rick is an excellent teacher with the ability to inspire students to reach new heights in their training. For more about PG Manglinong go to www.manglinongmartialarts.com Julie Kedzie has been training in the martial arts since the age of five. She currently holds a third degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do and is certified a coach in Erik Paulson's Combat Submission Wrestling. She has studied a variety of additional systems, including Modern Arnis, Sayoc Kali, and Brazilian jujitsu. Julie is featured on the cover of the Hook N' Shoot Revolution 2 DVD, showcasing a variety of women who have pioneered the sport of Mixed Martial Art (MMA). For more on Julie go to www.JulieKedzie.com Matt Dorsey is a 30 year veteran martial arts practitioner and school owner for 25 years. He currently owns two schools in Rochester, New York with over 500 students in total. He manages 3 full-time and 8 part-time employees and is currently making plans for a third location. Besides running his schools, Mr. Dorsey does consulting for martial arts and fitness business owners and has been a featured speaker at the EFC National Convention, the AAU National Championships and at Andrew Wood's Mastermind Martial Arts Weekend. He has also taught martial arts business success at Mike Campos' Super Summer Seminar camp. He has consulted with the Buffalo Martial Arts group and directs the Rochester Martial Arts Association. Mr. Dorsey takes his business seriously – he reads over twenty books per year on business management, marketing, sales, psychology and money management. He networks with school owners across the country, keeping on top of the latest trends and ideas in the martial arts business. Mr. Dorsey is a 6th Degree Black Belt in Isshin Ryu karate, 2nd degree in Iaido with additional experience in Jujitsu, Kali and Tai Chi. He is also the Northeast Region Director for the AAU (Amateur Athletic Union) National Karate program and on the Executive Committee and Referee Council. Bob Hubbard is president of SilverStar WebDesigns Inc., a Web site design and hosting company located in Buffalo, NY. SilverStar designs, hosts and provides consulting services for a wide range of international clients, including those in the martial arts, health, legal and sports industries as well as small businesses. In addition to SilverStar, Bob is also the owner and technical administrator of MartialTalk.com, a leading destination for martial arts enthusiasts on the Internet. Serving over 81,000 visitors monthly, Martial Talk was listed as one of the top 3 martial arts sites by Black Belt Magazine in 2004. More to follow. __________________ Respectfully yours, James Miller WMAA Administrative Assistant --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:01:44 +0100 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Carrying knives in UK Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net by not attracting attention. they always say that you have to watch the quiet one in a group as hes the dangerous one, they have even had a tv advert for the police which emphasised that point. as a doorman, when faced with a group of people that i wasn't allowing in it wasnt the most verbal one that had my undivided attention. I was taught to scan the group, look for the quiet one that had positioned themselves to take you out "watch out for the quiet one at the back, just waiting for the smallest crack" a lyric from a song a long time ago On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:35:12 -0800, Michael Koblic wrote:> I understand that a knife like Ryan 7 would be considered illegal in UK - > how do you get away with it? -- iPat live for today, live for tomorrow "Truth is a pathless land. Man cannot come to it through any organisation, through any creed, through any dogma, priest or ritual, nor through any philosophic knowledge or psychological technique. He has to find it through the mirror of relationship, through the understanding of the contents of his own mind, through observation and not through intellectual analysis or introspective dissection..." --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Van Harn, Steve" To: "Eskrima Digest (E-mail)" Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:41:22 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] RE:Bladed weapons: How do you bring it back to Europe or US? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: "Cogie Gutierrez" Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:50:59 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Bladed weapons: How do you bring it back to Europe or US? "With all the information about buying knives, did you have trouble bringing it with you back home? I tried sending knives and balisongs to my friends via mail, UPS and FEDEX, I was turned down all the time." As long as it's in checked baggage, it's never been a problem. Now the nice letter opener I absentmindedly but in my carryon coming back through Heathrow caused some issues. ;-) I just let them toss it. I declare them as handicrafts or carvings. Not totally untrue. The best thing to do is to make them inaccessible, to you and to them. Wrap them in plastic and duct tape. Then wrap them again in cardboard, then tape them again, ect. If it's inaccessible to you it is to them as well. If they have to go to alot of trouble to open and inspect it, they're less likely to bother. Make the wrapping look like it was done in a store, nice and neat as a gift. Now if you've been places suspicious or give them reason to be suspicious, all bets are off. I just brought back a machete from Jamaica as well. Not a problem. Unless you have several of the same item and it looks like you are trying to run a business, they understand souvenirs. Coming back on a busy plane so customs is swamped helps too. Steve --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:07:16 -0500 From: "Clint Cayson" To: Subject: [Eskrima] KNIVES & BLADED WEAPONS LAWS Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Questions for the ED; what are laws that permit carrying knives and bladed weapons here in United States? Does it vary from state to state? I live in Florida and some laws in carrying knives in my perspective are limited. How about displaying samurai in your home (though don't have one but a friend of mine has it...)? I do carry one (sort of utility object) type of "thing" which is a "Swiss Knife" in my car that has at least 2 or 3 inch in height. Would this consider a dangerous weapon if for example a police officer sees it? Can they confiscate this without any questions? Thanks in advance. Clint __________________________________________ Signed & Approved by: Clint V. Cayson --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0700 From: Jared Dame To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] KNIVES & BLADED WEAPONS LAWS Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I don't think a swiss knive would be considered dangerous depending on the impression the police officer has of you, its the Benchmade, Spiderco, and simlar type folding blades that might give the wrong impression. As I have just found that in the State of Colorado the hilt of the folder cannot be more than four inches and the cutting surface no more than 3.5 inches. Now California the cutting surface must be under 4 inches and I could not find any restrictions on the hilt for a folder knife. Salamat, Jared On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:07:16 -0500, Clint Cayson wrote: > Questions for the ED; what are laws that permit carrying knives and > bladed weapons here in United States? Does it vary from state to state? > I live in Florida and some laws in carrying knives in my perspective are > limited. How about displaying samurai in your home (though don't have > one but a friend of mine has it...)? I do carry one (sort of utility > object) type of "thing" which is a "Swiss Knife" in my car that has at > least 2 or 3 inch in height. Would this consider a dangerous weapon if > for example a police officer sees it? Can they confiscate this without > any questions? Thanks in advance. > > Clint > > __________________________________________ > Signed & Approved by: > Clint V. Cayson > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > -- Jared Dame jareddame@gmail.com "If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things." Rene Descartes --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Kes41355@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:30:28 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: ???? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all, What is this s$!!??? Some of us on this list will find this extremely offensive. Kim In a message dated 3/28/2005 6:57:28 AM US Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: Please visit http://www.stormfront.org and http://www.whitecivilrights.com/ --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "John Johnson" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Re: fighting knives and "slash vs. thrust" Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:31:14 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I do agree with that statement kind of, I believe in the historical sense that the weapons doing the slashing were much larger than your average pocket knife. You know things like swords and axes, slashing & hacking from weapons like that are down right lethal. Though a well placed slash from a pocket knife can be lethal, the stab has more potential. That is only my guess, from what knowledge I have gathered from here and also the medieval web forum sites that I am a part of. Peace Out John >From: Afern27@aol.com >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] Re: fighting knives and "slash vs. thrust" >Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:46:05 EST > >I could be wrong...but doesn't the historical record show that slashing >results in just as many fatal wounds as thrusting? Maybe even more so? >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] KNIVES & BLADED WEAPONS LAWS To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:58:17 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Yes, I believe the laws will vary by state. > Now California the cutting surface must be under 4 inches and I could > not find any restrictions on the hilt for a folder knife. Do you have a CA PC section to quote for the above? I haven't noticed any such limits, save perhaps for limitations wrt school grounds, state buildings, the definition of a switchblade, etc. ??? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Shawn Keren" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] KNIVES & BLADED WEAPONS LAWS Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:58:31 -0800 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Here is a link to a website that has state laws regarding knives, clubs, guns etc.. http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/sta-law.htm Obviously, they might not be up to date as state legislatures can change these at any time. However it is a good basic guidline. It also includes links to Federal laws on same. Regards, Shawn --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest