Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:43:19 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #118 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Yaw-Yan training (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Ken Grubb" To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] knife carry in FL Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:57:31 -0800 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Good news in Florida is that with a Concealed Weapon License, one can carry darned near any concealed weapon ya want. Switchblade, balisong, fixed blade, handgun, taser, ASP baton, etc. Machine guns are the only thing specifically prohibited, so leave your Micro-Uzi at home. Ken Grubb Bellevue, WA -----Original Message----- From: lunghsing@aol.com [mailto:lunghsing@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 15:31 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] knife carry in FL Hi Clint, The laws in florida talk about a "common, folding pocket knife". This has been interpreted by case law to be a non-automatic, bi-fold knife. There is no hard and fast rule about blade length and this applies to concealed carry. You may not conceal a fixed blade knife ( unless you want to see the inside of your local correction intake facility for CCW ). Got a call, gotta go. Steve --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:26:45 -0600 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Tournament Rules - Request for Input? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Greetings all, We've made some changes in the rules for the Edge 2005 tournament (shameless plug: www.edgefighting.com April 16th; it's not too late to compete), and in the debate over "ring vs. reality", we've had more than a few discussions on the rules. I'll post what we've done, but I'd like as much input and feedback as the collected experience of the ED can give, so at the risk of burning Mr. Terry's bandwidth, don't be shy. :-) Our limitations are simple: we don't want any injuries, or the level of pain that would cause a reasonable competitor to never come back. On the other hand, we want to show the fighters (and the crowd) that the weapon is king, and that hitting someone with a stick or a knife takes more than courage and determination. To that end, the divisions fall into two categories: Bladed and Submission. In the Bladed divisions, the weapon is considered to be a sword, knife, barong, etc. To prevent the endless arguments over who hit who, and when, and where, and how deeply, we're only scoring clean, uncontested hits with the weapon. Submission divisions are full contact. (Insurance dictates no strikes to the groin, and no kicks below the knee or to the head.) Scoring is based on who "won" the instance of fighting. Strikes with the weapon are valued over strikes with the body, which are valued over grappling. An "instance" of fighting is the natural rhythm of a fight: where the fighters tangle and separate. This avoids the whole "how many times, and where, and how hard?" issue. (This also emphasises getting in, dealing damage, and getting out cleanly.) I think we've struck a decent balance between realism and safety, although compromises had to be made. What are your thoughts on tournaments in general, and rules in particular? Kurt Schneider (a.k.a Woody) Judge, Edge 2005 --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "rob mulligan" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:54:19 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] second motion on politeness Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net On being polite: A few winters ago, coming back late from a photo shoot, I missed my bus. Unknown to me, the bus stopped after 9pm. It was freezing, so I was pacing up and down the street wearing black pants, a black hood and carrying a bag FULL of FMA weapons. A homeowner must have gotten nervous because in an instant 5 or 6 Nassau County police cars surrounded me. A bunch of officers jumped out and started questioning me. I explained who I was, what I was doing, showed my ID, and opened my bag to show them everything. I even offered to show some techniques. The officer in charge politely said “no thanks”. He then offered me a ride to the closest train station! While he was driving me, they got a call to investigate an alarm at a retail store so I was along for the ride! While he drove he explained that my being polite and understanding why they stopped me was something they weren’t used to and that was why he did me the favor. Politeness goes a long way, not just with LEO’s, but in everyday life. I’ve gotten out of many a predicament with a polite smile and the words: “excuse me”, “sorry” or “my fault”. You might say that it’s one of the best “disarming” techniques I know. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "I F" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:15:58 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] FMA in Ilocos Northe Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi, I just received an email from a friend of a friend asking about FMA in Ilocos Northe (near Loag City). Can anyone point him in the right direction? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, I. Forberg --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:57:35 -0500 From: "Clint Cayson" To: Subject: [Eskrima] RE: KNIVES & BLADED WEAPONS LAWS Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I guess this is neat to know that carrying knife, knives, and/or concealed weapons to other states may help MA Practitioners. We may think twice if we go for seminars or something. Thanks all. Clint --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Young Forest" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:39:52 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Burgler's description Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >One night after training in FMA with Bob Breen, I was walking down the road >where I live with my training bag full of training knifes, sticks and >sledge >hammer handle etc. Apparently I matched the description of a suspected >bugler who had been disturbed and fled into my area. Two policemen stopped >me for some Q/A. I was polite and did as they said. I opened my bag, showed >them the training gear and after a 5 minute discussion on the merits of FMA >training they let me get on my way. Let me guess: Male, medium height, medium build, brown hair. The 'matching the description' I believe is used so that they have an articulable reason why they stopped someone in case things ever went to court. Badger Siling Labuyo Arnis --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:42:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] FWIW Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net fwiw, Mr. Ledwith has been removed from the list of Eskrima/FMA Digest subscribers. He attempted to advertise his racist white-power websites again. Back to FMA... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Mike Casto" To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] second motion on politeness Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:42:41 -0500 Organization: I.M.P.A.C.T. Academy of Martial Arts Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I had an embarrassing and funny situation happen in China in October. I turned a bit too quickly and my hand cracked a small boy in the head (the Chinese have no sense of personal space as we westerners understand it so the kid was very close to me). The kid was probably somewhere in the 4 - 6 age range and the knock to his noggin hurt (or startled) him enough to make him cry. Of course, his mom was very upset. I didn't know how to say "sorry" in Mandarin but did my best through body language. The mom, in a matter of seconds, went from ticked to puzzled to amused and started laughing. She said something (probably "Stupid American!") to other passerby and they started laughing - even the boy, still holding his head, started laughing. Then I started laughing and in another couple of seconds the crowd had dispersed. I'm not quite sure what all transpired in that time span of about 8 seconds but it was interesting. I now know how to say "sorry" (or, more specifically, "excuse me" which, as far as I can tell, is also used for "sorry") in Mandarin - just in case :-) Mike -----Original Message----- From: rob mulligan [mailto:panguro3@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:54 AM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] second motion on politeness On being polite: A few winters ago, coming back late from a photo shoot, I missed my bus. Unknown to me, the bus stopped after 9pm. It was freezing, so I was pacing up and down the street wearing black pants, a black hood and carrying a bag FULL of FMA weapons. A homeowner must have gotten nervous because in an instant 5 or 6 Nassau County police cars surrounded me. A bunch of officers jumped out and started questioning me. I explained who I was, what I was doing, showed my ID, and opened my bag to show them everything. I even offered to show some techniques. The officer in charge politely said "no thanks". He then offered me a ride to the closest train station! While he was driving me, they got a call to investigate an alarm at a retail store so I was along for the ride! While he drove he explained that my being polite and understanding why they stopped me was something they weren't used to and that was why he did me the favor. Politeness goes a long way, not just with LEO's, but in everyday life. I've gotten out of many a predicament with a polite smile and the words: "excuse me", "sorry" or "my fault". You might say that it's one of the best "disarming" techniques I know. _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2100 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:30:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Yaw-Yan training Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Yaw-Yan invites for summer training The Freeman, Cebu by Sona Mae V. Povadora March 30, 2005 The Philippine Yaw-Yan Martial Arts International Federation are inviting martial arts enthusiasts for a summer training class at the Seno Building 62 Sikatuna St. and at the 3rd Floor Rm. 304 Villacampa-Capuras Bldg. Sanciangko St. (in front of UC-Main Campus). Yaw-Yan is a unique Filipino Martial Arts and is considered to be the deadliest martial arts. Yaw-Yan Ardigma form is known and tested as superior to karatedo, taekwondo, Thai-boxing, kung-fu, judo, hapkedo, boxing, jeet junedo and capoira, among others. The program also includes lessons in aikido, arnis aryan style/sipang pamalo, Bo staff, boxing, modern jujitsu, swords, tonfa, yawara Sticks, Yaw-Yan combat, Yaw-Yan grappling and Yaw-Yan ardigma style. For more details, one can visit the two gyms. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest