Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:05:02 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #142 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2200 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: "Gun Kata" (WoodyTX) 2. Re: The 7 Biggest Muscle Myths (WoodyTX) 3. Re: Gun Kata and FMA in the movies (WoodyTX) 4. don't knife the pan man (Ray) 5. Re: don't knife the pan man (WoodyTX) 6. Re: FMA in movies (noirpalm) 7. Re: ...FMA in the movies... (Ken Grubb) 8. Training and recovery (Michael Koblic) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:47:35 -0500 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] "Gun Kata" Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hollywood, indeed. There's a huge gap between statistical impossibility and statistical improbability. Having never experienced a sparring match (much less a fight) that followed the plan, I'd be extremely hesitant to engage in point-blank gunfighting. I'd much prefer two hundred meters and over 150 grains between me and him. Barring that, there's always "Shot-Gung Fu." Woody On 4/11/05, Peter Gow wrote: > Glen, > > If its the same movie I am thinking of then the "Gun Kata" that you are > refering to in the movie is supposed to be based on mathematical > statistics of where the bullet will be,( perhaps you missed this part of > the movie). Therfore by positioning your body at a point where it is > statistically impossible to be hit you will succeed in overcoming > numerous opponents. Theory is great isn't it.You've got to love it. > > Well that's Hollywood. You have to admit that they do get them up well. > > Regards, > > Peter Gow > > Australia. > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:35:40 -0500 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] The 7 Biggest Muscle Myths Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Excellent article. Thanks for posting it. You wouldn't believe it to look at me now (damn you, computers!), but I was a certified personal trainer and certifiable gym rat once upon a time. In my personal experience: 1) Lifting really slowly isn't better than lifting at a normal speed. The problem is that most lifters get focused on the amount of weight they're tossing around, and start to use bad form ("bouncing" or "throwing" the weights at high speeds) to claim the highest poundages in the gym. The key is to lift slowly enough to allow the weight to resist your muscle all along the movement. So new lifters are almost always told to "lift slowly". This turns into "if a little slow is good, a lot of slow is great!" 2) For my body, more protein means more muscle. That may not be the case with yours. I found that anything over 1.5 g/lb was my limit, but less would mean more recovery time. Your body can only absorb 25-30 g of protien at a sitting, so shoot for 25 g every 3-4 hours if you're serious. Always take in protien within 30 minutes of lifting, and carbs within an hour. 3) There is no exercise better at building overall mass than the squat. There is no exercise better at ending a lifting career than the squat. Proper form is the difference between these two statements. Get PROPER instruction if you're going to squat (and not from your friend the jock). 4) Overtraining is one of the most common mistakes for the lifter. Muscle soreness past 48 hours means you're working too hard; reduce volume or intensity. Muscles don't respond well to the high-powered workouts shown in most muscle mags (since you're missing the all-important steroid-in-the-ass part of the workour). I found that 3-4 sets total for small muscle groups, and 6-8 sets total for large muscle groups, each set taken to exhaustion, worked best for me. And got me out of the gym in under an hour. 5) Warm up before lifting (5-10 minutes). Stretch after lifting (20 seconds a stretch, minimum). Stretching is like a cooldown; it increases blood flow to the exercised area, replenishing the muscles you just tore down, and removing the waste products from lifting. I got my best recovery doing my aerobic exercise (and stretching) after the lifting. 6) Swiss ball? Good answer in original. Also, work the multi-joint "heavy" exercises first, then work towards the single-joint "light" exercises. So: squats, leg press, leg extensions, in that order. 7) Machines are best for beginners and isolation exercises. Free weights are best for overall mass, but PROPER FORM IS CRITICAL for free weights. I got my best results using dumbells whenever possible. I also subluxed a shoulder using dumbells. Get instruction, even if you think you know what you're doing. A couple of sessions with a trainer may cost a bit initially, but will keep you in the gym. You may be able to lift more with improper form, but it will catch you in the end (or in the lower back). Work your whole body. Don't do the Joe Rockhead "bench and curls" workout, and don't be the guy with flared lats, a huge chest, and toothpick legs. We used to call that "riding the chicken". Finally: it's not about lifting the weight; it's about stressing the muscle. Woody On 4/12/05, Ray wrote: > The 7 Biggest Muscle Myths > We deflate the lies and inflate your biceps > By: Scott Quill > The gym is infested with bad information. <--- Too True!!! --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:14:05 -0500 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Gun Kata and FMA in the movies Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Stargate: Atlantis on the SciFi channel has a character (Teyla) who is consistently doing Eskrima, both as training and fighting. (She's also hotter than Texas chili.) Another character, Lt. Ford, did a couple of cool takedowns, including a flying arm-bar to a pistol disarm to an almost-Silat position. http://www.scifi.com/atlantis/cast/ The Bourne movies (I haven't seen the second one) used a lot of FMA. I especially like the scene where he gets harrassed by the German (?) police. Chronicles of Riddick was supposed to have FMA in it, but I didn't see it, and heard that jerky camera movements obscured most of the action. I personally would love to see FMA in more movies/TV. It's much more cinematic than the stuttered stop-and-go of most Hollywood martial arts. Woody On 4/13/05, chanoaim@bellsouth.net wrote: > Thanks Peter... > > I've received a few links since my inquiry and Hollywood was definitely at work here. There also seems to be a following of folks trying to put the theories to test (paintball arenas and such). Also learned that the fight choreagraphy was done by a guy named Jim Vickers who has several martial arts to his credit inclusive of escrima (the siniwali patterns were unmistakable). > http://www.sci-fi-online.50megs.com/Interview/03-08-29_JimVickers.htm > > As a movie fan, especially martial arts movies I'd like to see more of our art in film. Since "The Hunted" , there doesn't seem to be many other productions out there featuring our art. Is anyone on the list in tuned with the following: > > * training actors in FMA > * giving FMA seminars to stunt groups and expanding their knowledge of our art > * communicating with film studios that regularly produce action films. > * contacts in the Phllippine movie industry. > > Most of what I see on film is not a true representation of our art. The Jet Li scene in "Kiss of the Dragon" is a good example of what I referring to. While running from attackers he runs directly into a dojo training area were everyone is equipped with bastons. He takes them all out using "stop / hit" motions. Great. nice . but I would have LOVED to see the hero perform FMA in that situation. > > Since Hollywood is in retro mode now and period pieces are all the rage..Kingdom of Heaven, Gladiator, how about a treatment on Lapu Lapu defending the honor and pride of the Phillipines on film featuring FMA in the fight scenes. Now there's something I'd like to see. > > I think its cool when folks like the Rock - who will be featured as King Kamehameha. the unifier Hawaii's islands, used his clout to feature the martial arts and dance of the region on film. Not only more historically correct, it does honor to those who continue to practice those arts to this day. > > With so many our FMA masters passing away in recent years, getting them and their art on film or involved as technical advisors on films I think is a homage worthy of them. > > If anyone on this list is seriously interested in promoting FMA on film. Let's discuss. Nothing is impossible. > > Respectfully, > Guro Glenn Harris > Garimot System USA - Miami, Fl > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] don't knife the pan man Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Teen Gets Probation For Knifing Pan Man ThisisNorthScotland.co.uk 09:00 - 14 April 2005 A teenager fought back by pulling a knife on a man who struck him with a frying pan, a court heard yesterday. The attack came after the man had asked the teenager and his friends to keep the noise down after he felt they were causing a disturbance near his Aberdeen home. Daniel Bertram, 18, previously admitted assaulting Paul Mutch on September 1, last year, at 27 Fountain Grange, Aberdeen, by striking him repeatedly on the legs with a knife to his severe injury. He also admitted a second charge of having the knife in a public place. Bertram, of 19c Sandilands Drive, Aberdeen, appeared for sentencing at the city's sheriff court yesterday, where Fiscal Depute Neil Shand said Mr. Mutch was wakened at 11.45pm by the noise of something striking his window. On investigating, he found a group of two men and two women standing outside and he asked them to be quiet. The court was told there was a disagreement and Mr. Mutch went back into his house, returning shortly afterwards with a frying pan which he used to hit Bertram on the head. The fiscal said Bertram retaliated by pulling out a knife and striking Mr. Mutch on the legs several times, resulting in injuries which needed hospital treatment. Defence agent Iain Woodward-Nutt said his client had been drinking and had also taken diazepam the night of the incident. The court was told Bertram, one of six siblings, had initially been brought up by his grandparents. Following their death, he began taking cannabis and was referred to a child psychiatrist for treatment for anger and impulsive behaviour. At age 16, he progressed to diazepam and other hard drugs. A week before the offences, he had arranged an emergency appointment with his GP to ask for help in getting off the drugs. The court was told that bar an 18-day period last September, the teenager had not been in trouble with the law before or since. Mr. Woodward-Nutt said Bertram had since withdrawn himself from the drug scene and his former friends, saying he was "disgusted not just with the offence but with that whole period of his life". Sheriff Annella Cowan sentenced him to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:52:25 -0500 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] don't knife the pan man Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Wait, he got hit with a frying pan, attacked back with a knife, and _he_ was charged? What about the erstwhile chef? Wasn't he charged with battery? Oh, this is Scotland.... Where apparently assaults with frying pans are legal, but knives aren't. **boggle** Woody On 4/14/05, Ray wrote: > Teen Gets Probation For Knifing Pan Man > ThisisNorthScotland.co.uk > 09:00 - 14 April 2005 > > A teenager fought back by pulling a knife on a man who struck him with a frying pan, a court heard yesterday. > > The attack came after the man had asked the teenager and his friends to keep the noise down after he felt they were causing a disturbance near his Aberdeen home. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:07:56 -0700 (PDT) From: noirpalm To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: FMA in movies Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Check out Blade 1 and 2,bits and pieces here and there, on thedvd commentary snipes also mentions silat. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:48:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Grubb Subject: Re: [Eskrima] ...FMA in the movies... To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Blade - Wesley Snipes It's worth it just for the tire iron redondo. Ken Grubb Bellevue, WA --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:16:35 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Training and recovery Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "Some of the strongest mountaineers believe in "active recovery", very low intensity activity on the off days. Taking a walk, going for a relaxing bike ride, or something like that. Basically, nothing that you would consider "training", that would get your heart rate up, or make you lose your breath, but something that will keep you active." This seems to change with age, too. It used to be "daily tennis or MA, play golf if only you are too knackered to do the real stuff." Now it is fence, play golf, hope the pain goes away in two days before the MA session...:-) Also, you know you are in trouble if your remedial exercises take as long as the rest of the real stuff. Michael Koblic, Campbell River, B. C. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest