Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:03:51 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #226 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Nunchaku (buz_ed_alias@mac.com) 2. nunchucks (Mills_Onellion@dom.com) 3. PIPE (Peter Gow) 4. Nunchucks (Peter Gow) 5. Re: Re: Nunchaku (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: buz_ed_alias@mac.com Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:53:04 -0400 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Nunchaku Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Though I'm in agreement with what's been said about 'chucks of late, I do think a measure of context is missing. As I understand it, nunchakus came about when the powers that be banned the common folks from owning edged weaponry. Barred from owning the best tool for the job, folks had to make do with what was at hand; I understand it 'chucks were originally an agricultural implement used to harvest rice. Though their history won't make it more likely they'd handle 10 assailants, before dismissing them entirely I think it's worth remembering their improvised origins. Nothin' wrong with using the tool at hand to get the job done. I've had a few occasions to use 'chucks over the years. Worked for about a year as a third shift cashier at a 24 hour supermarket. The management was of the opinion that folks looking for trouble after 11:00 p.m. should be asked nicely to cease and desist, and then have their clock cleaned if they then failed to play nice. Several of the guys one the stock crew were JKA types, while I'd been training some Isshinryu; after Enter the Dragon came out just about every karatka played with 'chucks so we must have had a half dozen pair salted around the store. Used 'chucks a couple of times, usually on drunks expressing their displeasure after learning we couldn't sell booze after 1:00 a.m. The longer I worked there, though, the less I found myself reaching for the 'chucks, mostly 'cause the confines of the checkout counter made it take too long to get 'em swinging. Had a chunk of pipe concealed along the side of the register that eventually became the drunk thumper of choice. If I'd known then what I know now I probably would have spent less time clocking myself with 'chucks (still can't do that behind the neck pass consistently). But if the need arose and a pair of chucks were at hand I expect I could still administer an attitude adjustment with a pair. Regards, Buz Grover --__--__-- Message: 2 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Mills_Onellion@dom.com Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:21:23 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] nunchucks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have used the chucks and was trained years ago. The nunchucks rebound when hitting a solid object ie..bone , another weapon or body, so multiple hits can be achieved. The problem is that a rhythm is established and when contact is made the rebound is a continuation of the rhythm and flow to the next technique. The flash is similar to siniwali creating few openings. The biggest flaw was the string, as I found out in a sparring session with an escrimador many years ago. The stick simply entered my weave and interrupted the flow of the nunchuck, by the time I recovered I was hit multiple times. I have been studying Arnis ever since. Mills Onellion Arnis Cielo y Tierra ----------------------------------------- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains information which may be legally confidential and/or privileged and does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional express written confirmation to that effect. 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Peter Gow Australia --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Peter Gow" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:23:37 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Nunchucks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Brian, I actually played with nunchucks for a little while and hit through bricks, wood , flicked them off inanimate objects etc.. Until I was introduced to Arnis I considered them a weapon of some importance. They are good to build up self confidence on catching fast moving objects that come from any direction near your body if you are swinging them around your body. A hit to a person will break their arm, crack their skull or whatever but that does not mean that a person cannot get in on the person using the nunchucks. Historically there are two versions of origins. 1. Is that they were used to beat carpets clean. 2. Is that they were used to thresh rice. Both versions do not have a weapons basis like FMA but rather an adaptation for survival - weapons at hand. Peter Gow Australia.   --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Nunchaku To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net One of the better uses of chucks is for pain compliance. Get a wrist or forearm between the sticks and squeeeezzzzeee. A good deal of pain can be dealt to your opponent. And that is a good thing... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest