Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:20:18 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #232 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Garimot Lubid (jay de leon) 2. Warrior Princess (Stephen Lamade) 3. digest vol 12 (guro marsh) 4. Re: McDojos and those "other" martial arts (Jonathan Kessler) 5. Re: Garimot Lubid (Djinji Brown) 6. Filipino Fighting Whip (Tom Meadows) 7. Mang 'Topher Rickets in San Diego?? (dwilhelmy@aol.com) 8. Dan Anderson (jay de leon) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:41:09 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Garimot Lubid To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dear Guro Blade, First of all, "THE" FMA event of the year was marketing hyperbole on my part. Aren't they all? Secondly, on a more serious vein, the names you mentioned are FMA legends. They have dozens of their own seminars during the year. One of the goals of Tipunan (and I believe Expo, not to speak for PG Hufana) is to give exposure to very capable guros who might not have the opportunity to display their wares, so to speak. One reason is sheer geographical separation. For example, I have taken this opportunity to invite my personal instructor, Master Godofredo Fajardo (Saudi Arabia) and GM Samuel Dulay (Philippine), two of the highest ranking senior masters of Modern Arnis and personal students of Remy Presas. Edessa Ramos (Switzerland) is my counterpart in Europe, as Commissioner for Europe for International Modern Arnis Federation of the Philippines (IMAFP). Fajardo has never been to the US, Dulay and Ramos were here in the US a few weeks ago for the first time at Dan Anderson's camp. Topher Ricketts is GM of Ilustrisimo Kali and chief instructor of Bakbakan Int'l who has recently relocated to southern California from the Philippines. Also, the venues change every year. It just so happens it is Los Angeles or Orange County this year. Yes, GM's Babao and Galang are exceptional FMA instructors. But please allow the other guros to also display their wares. Better still, come on down and join the fun with all these very capable guros. Thank you for the comments and the interest. Jay de Leon All Blade wrote: Guro Blade is more confused that is typically the case. This is THE fma event of the year and it is in LA yet Inosanto and Bustillo and Canete and Canete and Gaje and Knaus are absent? Good move at least with Babao and Galang. Guro Blade Always cuts deep >Samuel Dulay - Manila, Philippines >Godofredo Fajardo - Riyadh, Saudi Arabia >Edessa Ramos - Zurich, Switzerland >Abon Baet - Pembroke Pines, FL >Tom Bolden - NY, NY >Jerome Barber - Orchard Park, NY >Bram Frank - FL >Roger Agbulos - LA >Christopher Ricketts - San Diego, CA >John Jacobo - MD >Steve Aron - LA >Jay de Leon - LA > >Possible guest instructors : >Rey Galang >Felix Valencia > >Expo instructors scheduled : See http://www.worldfma.com and >http://www.arnisador.com . >Ramiro Estalilla >Myrlino Hufana >Narrie Babao >Conrad Manaois >Raffy Pambuan >Vic Ferrer >Ariel Mosses >Ed Goco Galang >Jon Cuenca >Alex Ercia _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfeeŽ Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Stephen Lamade" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 06:26:55 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Warrior Princess Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Congratulations Rob! Best wishes to both your warrior princesses! Steve Lamade --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 06:10:51 -0700 (PDT) From: guro marsh To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] digest vol 12 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In reply to kim and jay i dont remember mentioning any system, and any school that runs its self like mcdonalds pumping out black belts like bigmac's is a mcdojo in my book regardles of system and i may also add that i find it interesting out of the whole paragraph i wrote which was not on the topic of mcdojo's because that word was used it became the highlight of the message (ohhhh the politics of martial arts,so funny at times)i guess i better not say what i think of fred valari might get killed or somethn lmao there now see no need to insert words or meanings, fred can i get a bigmac to go! run with that folks. Punong Guro Rodger Marsh Chief Instructor Angeles Escrima C.E.O. Martial Art Technologies http://www.martialarttechnologies.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:05:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Subject: Re: [Eskrima] McDojos and those "other" martial arts To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In the spirit of intelligent discourse on this topic (well, actually, in the spirit of good fun), I refer the gentle reader back to http://beagleweb.com/fun-taekwanleap.html A good listen. Enjoy, JK Message: 6 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:18:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Kohn Subject: Re: [Eskrima] McDojos and those "other" martial arts To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Kim, You make a great point regarding the judgement of other arts. When I started training in Jun Fan/JKD, I was a complete snob towards other arts. In time I learned to see the beauty in other arts regardless of how non-combative they may have seemed to be on the surface. As a musician, I realized that this is tantamount to criticizing music that is different from what I play, rather than taking the time to see (and learn from) what it had to offer below the surface. Anyone that calls themselves an artist owes it to themselves to learn to appreciate what other arts have to offer. It is no less than stupid not to. I've already argued on the digest with people who claim to have a "complete art", so I doubt that I'll feel compelled to respond to anyone who starts in with that again...but you never know. The really funny thing is that I've seen a hell of a lot of FMA people who are awfully secure in their art, yet usually only stick spar...if at all. Not a lot of 'em demonstrate (much less spar) with the empty hand adaptations of the weapons techniques they purport to know. Many can barely throw a good, solid punch. Being able to kick butt with a stick and kick butt with empty hands are two very different things. For all of the techniques many of us know, the average BJJ white belt could probably take out the average 10 year FMA veteran (at least the American versions). Why? Because they spar more than they theorize and criticize. A curious bunch we are. Just my 2 dollars and 2 cents worth... -Steve Kohn --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:09:27 -0700 From: Djinji Brown To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Garimot Lubid Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 05:29AM, jay de leon wrote: >Dear Guro Blade, > >First of all, "THE" FMA event of the year was marketing hyperbole on my part. Aren't they all? > >Secondly, on a more serious vein, the names you mentioned are FMA legends. They have dozens of their own seminars during the year. One of the goals of Tipunan (and I believe Expo, not to speak for PG Hufana) is to give exposure to very capable guros who might not have the opportunity to display their wares, so to speak. One reason is sheer geographical separation. > >For example, I have taken this opportunity to invite my personal instructor, Master Godofredo Fajardo (Saudi Arabia) and GM Samuel Dulay (Philippine), two of the highest ranking senior masters of Modern Arnis and personal students of Remy Presas. Edessa Ramos (Switzerland) is my counterpart in Europe, as Commissioner for Europe for International Modern Arnis Federation of the Philippines (IMAFP). Fajardo has never been to the US, Dulay and Ramos were here in the US a few weeks ago for the first time at Dan Anderson's camp. Topher Ricketts is GM of Ilustrisimo Kali and chief instructor of Bakbakan Int'l who has recently relocated to southern California from the Philippines. > >Also, the venues change every year. It just so happens it is Los Angeles or Orange County this year. > >Yes, GM's Babao and Galang are exceptional FMA instructors. But please allow the other guros to also display their wares. Better still, come on down and join the fun with all these very capable guros. Which Dan Anderson are you speaking of? I used to train with a Dan Anderson in New York City. He's a fromer student of Terry Gibson. Is this the same Dan Anderson? My name is Djinji Brown thank you for your response. > >Thank you for the comments and the interest. > >Jay de Leon > > > > > > >All Blade wrote: >Guro Blade is more confused that is typically the case. >This is THE fma event of the year and it is in LA yet Inosanto and Bustillo >and >Canete and Canete and Gaje and Knaus are absent? >Good move at least with Babao and Galang. > >Guro Blade >Always cuts deep > > >>Samuel Dulay - Manila, Philippines >>Godofredo Fajardo - Riyadh, Saudi Arabia >>Edessa Ramos - Zurich, Switzerland >>Abon Baet - Pembroke Pines, FL >>Tom Bolden - NY, NY >>Jerome Barber - Orchard Park, NY >>Bram Frank - FL >>Roger Agbulos - LA >>Christopher Ricketts - San Diego, CA >>John Jacobo - MD >>Steve Aron - LA >>Jay de Leon - LA >> >>Possible guest instructors : >>Rey Galang >>Felix Valencia >> >>Expo instructors scheduled : See http://www.worldfma.com and >>http://www.arnisador.com . >>Ramiro Estalilla >>Myrlino Hufana >>Narrie Babao >>Conrad Manaois >>Raffy Pambuan >>Vic Ferrer >>Ariel Mosses >>Ed Goco Galang >>Jon Cuenca >>Alex Ercia > >_________________________________________________________________ >Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfeeŽ >Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:04:20 -0700 From: Tom Meadows To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Filipino Fighting Whip Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Greetings, I am pleased to announce the long awaited publication of my book _The Filipino Fighting Whip_, with a foreword by Guro Dan Inosanto. The Filipino Fighting Whip is now available through Paladin Press in Boulder, Colorado. This book documents the history of the whip as found in the Filipino martial arts, and reviews technical details of the whip as it used in six different styles. It includes interviews with some of the Dog Brothers on the subject of full contact fighting, and a special section devoted to Snookie "King of the whip" Sanchez and his demonstrations of putting out candles blindfolded. The Filipino Fighting Whip provides a complete technical overview of the Latigo y Daga system as founded by myself and is the first book in print to provide a definitive perspective on the whip as a combative weapon, with over 37,000 words of text, 202 pages and 110 photographs. For more information please go to my website www.latigoydaga.com Thanks, Tom Meadows --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:28:47 -0400 From: dwilhelmy@aol.com To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Mang 'Topher Rickets in San Diego?? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net What?! San Diego? I never knew he was in SoCal! -----Original Message----- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:05:27 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Garimot Lubid To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Tipunan instructors scheduled : [snip] Christopher Ricketts - San Diego, CA --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:22:46 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Dan Anderson Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Djinji Brown: I do not know. The Dan Anderson I speak of is THE Dan Anderson, champion karate tournament fighter, Modern Arnis master and author. But you can check for yourself by going to http://www.danandersonkarate.com . I believe he is also an ED list member. You are welcome. Jay de Leon Djinji Brown wrote: On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 05:29AM, jay de leon wrote: >Dear Guro Blade, > >First of all, "THE" FMA event of the year was marketing hyperbole on my part. Aren't they all? > >Secondly, on a more serious vein, the names you mentioned are FMA legends. They have dozens of their own seminars during the year. One of the goals of Tipunan (and I believe Expo, not to speak for PG Hufana) is to give exposure to very capable guros who might not have the opportunity to display their wares, so to speak. One reason is sheer geographical separation. > (snipped) Which Dan Anderson are you speaking of? I used to train with a Dan Anderson in New York City. He's a fromer student of Terry Gibson. Is this the same Dan Anderson? My name is Djinji Brown thank you for your response. > >Thank you for the comments and the interest. > >Jay de Leon --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest