Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 03:03:24 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #252 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Help: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on plus11.host4u.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: Send Eskrima mailing list submissions to eskrima@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Eskrima digest..." <<---- The Sudlud-Inayan Eskrima/Kali/Arnis/FMA mailing list ---->> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2200 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Heads up for Canadian Martial Artists (jay de leon) 2. Re: Fw: ICE (iPat) 3. RE: ICE (robin.david.buckhouse@us.army.mil) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:37:31 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Heads up for Canadian Martial Artists To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net If boxing is exempt, and martial arts (including Muay Thai fights) presumably is a viable exemption candidate, so what was the original target of the (proposed) legislation? Was Canada becoming the bastion of fight clubs and cage fighting? Also, their definition does not seem to cover prize fights involving weapons (as long as you are careful not to use your fists in the fight). So a full-contact stickfight would not be in violation of this (proposed) legislation? If a hockey game breaks out during a fight, would that be a prize fight? Jay de Leon James Nordstrom wrote: This was posted today in the Shillelagh Group on Yahoo by Mr. Glen Doyle, and I believe it to be utmostly imperative to consider it: Cheers Jim ============================================================= It has come to my attention that when Parliament reconvenes on September 26, 2005, the Federal Government under the direction of MP Dr. Irwin Colter, Minister of Justice and Attorney General, will table revisions to Section 83 of the Criminal Code. Section 83 is a vague piece of legislation designed to prevent prize fighting in Canada. Initially you might not that think that this affects you. However, most surprisingly, this legislation has the potential to have a significant negative effect on every martial arts school owner-operator, practicing martial artist, or parent or supporter of a martial artist. And here’s why: In Layman’s Terms: q Section 83 of the Criminal Code of Canada appears by virtue of the definition of “prize fight” to deem all martial arts and all martial arts competitions and contests to be “prize fights” and therefore illegal in Canada – i.e. no more tournaments; even sparring within a club could considered illegal. q Owner-operators, students and spectators of these martial art events, amateur or otherwise, are even now engaging in illegal “prize fight” activities and could be charged. q For some reason, boxing is exempt. On the positive side, this demonstrates that exemptions are indeed possible. [This is where our petition comes in.] Currently, Section 83 actually reads as follows: [Engaging in prize fight] 83. (1) Every one who (a) engages as a principal in a prize fight, (b) advises, encourages or promotes a prize fight, or (c) is present at a prize fight as an aid, second, surgeon, umpire, backer or reporter, is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. [Definition of "prize fight" ] (2) In this section, "prize fight" means an encounter or fight with fists or hands between two persons who have met for that purpose by previous arrangement made by or for them, but a boxing contest between amateur sportsmen, where the contestants wear boxing gloves of not less than one hundred and forty grams each in mass, or any boxing contest held with the permission or under the authority of an athletic board or commission or similar body established by or under the authority of the legislature of a province for the control of sport within the province, shall be deemed not to be a prize fight. Current Activities Underway: q Mr. Steve Pritchard, Sport Services Manager of the Alberta Government confirmed that the Federal Government is rewriting Section 83 to state that all martial arts are illegal. The Alberta government made a proposal for changes to Section 83 but Mr. Pritchard was not able to offer more information. q Mr. Brian Ozorio of the Ministry of Tourism and Recreation of the Ontario Provincial Government confirmed that he forwarded recommendations to the Honourable Irwin Cotler that exemptions be increased to include karate, judo, kickboxing and muay thai when redrafting Section 83 in August 2005. q Calgary MP Lee Richardson will present a Petition from the CALGARY AMATEUR KICKBOXING & MUAY THAI ASSOCIATION (CAKMTA) on September 27, 2005 at the House of Commons. q CAKMTA will continue to circulate their Muay Thai and Kickboxing Petition but they also encourage all clubs, competitors, coaches, promoters, etc. to pass a similar petition along to any and all clubs and gyms as this legislation will affect all martial arts in Canada. q The initial Petition from CAKMTA addressed Kickboxing and Muay Thai only, as they did not feel it was appropriate for them to speak for all other martial art disciplines. With CAKMTA’s awareness, I have modified their Petition so that it now includes all martial arts. Alternatively you could create one for your discipline only. q A copy of the revised Petition (covering all martial arts) is available as a download from the HOME page of www.MixedMartialArtsExpo.com. Moving Forward: We have no idea how the legislation will be rewritten, but we must act immediately to ensure that the voice of the martial arts community across Canada is heard loud and clear BEFORE Section 83 is rewritten inappropriately, for once passed by Parliament it will be almost impossible to change. If you are in ANY WAY involved in, or in support of, martial arts in Canada, it is extremely important that you take the following action NOW: q Download a copy of the petition from www.MixedMartialArtsExpo.com. Make and distribute as many copies as you need. q Assertively pursue the acquisition of as many signatures as possible – martial art students, family, friends, neighbours, co-workers. Give them additional blank copies to distribute as well. q If you are an owner-operator you must get EVERY STUDENT sign this petition. q Mail as many completed petitions as possible to your Federal MP before Aug. 15, 2005. You can use this link to locate your MP: http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/people/house/PostalCode.asp?lang=E&source=sm q Make note of these Petition Rules: q The petition must contain a minimum of 25 valid signatures, each with the address of the petitioner. q Each petitioner must sign (not print) his or her own name directly on the petition and must not sign for anyone else. q The petitioner's address must be written directly on the petition and not pasted or reproduced. q The petitioner may give his or her full home address or simply the city and province. q Aliens not resident in Canada cannot petition the House of Commons of Canada. Lastly, please take a moment to forward this e-mail to EVERYONE that you know who supports martial arts. Do it today! -Glen G. Doyle Cheers Jim "Taking life on the chin is all fine and well, but when life throws you a pile of shit best learn to bob and weave." "If people would just be half as smart as they think they are, they would be twice as smart as they really are." --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:13:57 +0100 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Fw: ICE Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://www.eastanglianambulance.com/content/ice/default.asp yes its a great idea but please be wary of mails that ask you to fwd it everyone in your mailbox. Its a subtle manipulation encouraging mass mailing that clogs up everyones mailbox. The latest explosion in London on the bus was in Shoreditch, which is extremely close to Bob Breens Academy. Thankfully no one injured. In the first incident i know of one ED list member who had a close escape. On 7/21/05, Ken Borowiec/Rudolph Research Analytical < kborowiec@rudolphresearch.com> wrote: > > Kenny > This is from the UK Ambulance Service... > ..>>Please will you also email this to everybody in your address book, > >>it won't take too many 'forwards' before everybody will know about > >>this. It really could save your life, or put a loved one's mind at > >>rest." > > > -- > iPat > therefore i am --__--__-- Message: 3 From: To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:32:25 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: ICE Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >>This sounds like a great Idea Subject: I C E This is from the UK Ambulance Service... >> >>"Following the disaster in London the Ambulance Service have >>launched a national "In Case of Emergency ( ICE )" campaign with the >>support of Falklands war hero Simon Weston. >> >>The idea is that you store the word " ICE " in your mobile phone >>address book, and against it enter the number of the person you >>would want to be contacted "In Case of Emergency". In an emergency >>situation ambulance and hospital staff will then be able to quickly >>find out who your next of kin are and be able to contact them. It's >>so simple that everyone can do it. >> >>For more than one contact name ICE1, ICE2, ICE3 etc. >> >>Please will you also email this to everybody in your address book, >>it won't take too many 'forwards' before everybody will know about >>this. It really could save your life, or put a loved one's mind at >>rest." I simply entered my wife in my phone under the name "Wife." ---SGT Robin-David Buckhouse ---4ID GI&S Cell ---Fort Hood, Texas --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest