Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 03:03:04 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #262 - 12 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2200 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Kali sticks with carved design or no? (Scott S. Pena) 2. Re: Re: [Eskrima} Colonial period? (Scott S. Pena) 3. Re: Eskrima digest, (Scott S. Pena) 4. Kali sticks with carved design or no? (Phil Hurcum) 5. reply for carved sticks (Trace Moore) 6. Re: Kali sticks with carved designs (Todd Ellner) 7. Re: Re: [Eskrima} Colonial period? (Steve Ames) 8. Re: Re: [Eskrima} Colonial period? (WoodyTX) 9. Re:Kali Sticks (Beungood8@aol.com) 10. Re: Re:Kali Sticks (Ray) 11. Akebono out again (Ray) 12. http://www.ScientificWrestling.com/letter_from_karl.htm (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Scott S. Pena" Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 01:12:19 -0500 (CDT) To: ruphia@gmail.com, eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Kali sticks with carved design or no? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The heavier and thicker stick is great for practice and develops speed when a lighter combat stick is used. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Scott S. Pena" Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 01:14:32 -0500 (CDT) To: djinjibrown1@mac.com, eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: [Eskrima} Colonial period? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The "key question" is "was justice served"? --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Scott S. Pena" Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 01:18:12 -0500 (CDT) To: aaronffa@sw.rr.com, eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Eskrima digest, Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Aaron, thanks for the reply. I am from the SA area and currently living in KC-MO. I study the Lacoste-Inosanto style and would like to discuss more with yo. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 07:33:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Hurcum To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Kali sticks with carved design or no? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net **A known drawback to carvings on sticks is that they may cause callouses** This is a drawback? Callusses are the bodies way of armouring an area stressed by friction due to use. I think I can generally tell a serious stickfighter by the callus tha runs down the left side of the index finger on the right hand. I know of my guy's have been training on their own anyways! =0 ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 07:51:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Trace Moore To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] reply for carved sticks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net kimi, my pair of carved sticks were good until I started getting the splinters. however, I would say get them for your first pair to help build a good grip you will need it!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:35:59 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Todd Ellner" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Kali sticks with carved designs Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net If you use them a lot you'll get calluses whether there are designs carved in the sticks or not. I can't see why calluses are a problem. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:09:06 -0500 From: Steve Ames To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: [Eskrima} Colonial period? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 01:13:16PM -0700, Ray wrote: > > The truth? It all pretty anectotoal. Records are scarce. We do know that > > during/after the revolution the US government (or what would become the > > US government) actively put guns into the hands of people and didn't take > > them back. So the cost issue is somewhat shaky. > > What evidence do you have that the Crown and then later the US government > actively put guns into the hands of the people? The militia members had > to provide their own weapons, which of course they already had in order > to live, hunt and defend themselves. Interesting. I am officially guilty of exactly the behavior that I was responding to. I had been told that by a history teacher I used to be acquainted with and never researched it myself. I just spent 20 minutes googling for evidence and failed. Heh. I never said the Crown... what I had heard was that the French provided a lot of money to keep the fledgling colonial army alive during their rebellion against England and the army/colianal government used parts of that funding to by arms which were given to regular army and the disorganized militia. Was also told that the government had no great respect for the milita's armaments or, especially, training and discipline. However google couldn't back that any arms were given any unofficial military personnel so I'll preface that with an "I heard once" :) Thanks for calling me out on that Ray. Gotsta question all of your beliefs at some point. -Steve --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:44:19 -0500 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: [Eskrima} Colonial period? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The answer: Yes. On a silver platter. If you make moves towards me or mine with deadly intent, then your life is worth nothing. Woody On 7/30/05, Scott S. Pena wrote: > > The "key question" is "was justice served"? > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Beungood8@aol.com Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:32:58 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re:Kali Sticks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Well I would say stay away from the handcarvings and fancy painted sticks. I would get the Rattan sticks with the skin left on and 3 nodes .the thicker variety has seemed to last a lot longer than the skinny sticks. Stay away from the I&I store. I bought some from them and they are absolute Junk. We can blow though them very quickly. A caning supply sotre will sell you bulk bundles of 1" or 1 1/4"diameter and sell them cheap to you. The thicker ones seem to flow better and react better than the skinny light ones. Jack --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re:Kali Sticks To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Well I would say stay away from the handcarvings and fancy painted sticks. > I would get the Rattan sticks with the skin left on and 3 nodes .the thicker > variety has seemed to last a lot longer than the skinny sticks. Stay away > from the I&I store. I bought some from them and they are absolute Junk. We > can blow though them very quickly. A caning supply sotre will sell you bulk > bundles of 1" or 1 1/4"diameter and sell them cheap to you. The thicker ones > seem to flow better and react better than the skinny light ones. I also like big thick rattan sticks as my hands are used to holding onto something big and thick... ;) However, I do have one 'Labsica' (sp?) rattan stick that I got from Lion Heart (is he still open?) many years ago. That stick is light and very hard and has out lasted all my other rattan sticks. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] Akebono out again Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Saturday, July 30th, 2005 8:33 AM HST Choi knocks out Akebono, Penn takes decision By KPUA News HONOLULU (AP) -- Former sumo grand champion Akebono fell Friday night to Choi Hong-man of South Korea in a battle of the giants in the K-One World Grand Prix in Hawaii. Akebono is 6-foot-8 and weighs 470 pounds. Choi is 7-foot-2 and weighs 353 pounds. Choi landed a flurry of blows to Akebono's head, stopping him with eight seconds left in the first round. Akebono was battered and helpless as Choi mercilessly landed punch after punch. Akebono's K-One record dropped to 1-and-7 with the last two losses to Choi, who improved to 4-and-0. K-One combines elements of kickboxing, karate and taekwondo. In the co-main event, Hilo's B.J. Penn won a unanimous decision over Renzo (Hen'-zo) Gracie of Brazil in a mixed martial arts event. Both fighters weighed in at 185 pounds. Penn is now 10-2-1, while the 38-year-old Gracie's record slipped to 10-6-1. In an eight-man K-1 heavyweight tournament, Gary Goodridge of Trinidad and Tobago scored a first-round knockout over Hilo's Wesley "Cabbage" Correira. Goodridge went on to win the 2005 K-1 Grand Prix Hawaii tournament. In the undercard bouts -- Michihisa Asano of Tokyo choked Steven Okano of Hilo into submission in the first round; Riki Fukuda of Tokyo stopped Honolulu's Brandon Wolff in the second round and Honolulu's Mike Malone outpointed Dustin Hanning of California. --__--__-- Message: 12 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] http://www.ScientificWrestling.com/letter_from_karl.htm Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Interesting reading... http://www.ScientificWrestling.com/letter_from_karl.htm Karl Gotch speaks out on Matt Furey. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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