Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 03:00:20 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #273 - 12 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2200 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Giron Arnis Escrima Videos ? (Alex 'Twist' Bohusch) 2. Training with iron (Michael Koblic) 3. Kris cutlery (Michael Koblic) 4. WEKAF Equipment (JKLK) 5. whips (norm rayos) 6. RE:Workouts (Wylie Mitchell) 7. RE: Dragon's Way Trading (Andrew Evans) 8. Clubbells ! (Jorge Penafiel) 9. Re: Kris cutlery (Ray) 10. Re: Kris cutlery (WoodyTX) 11. Re: whips (Ray) 12. Re: whips (jmarana@verizon.net) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:05:32 +0200 From: Alex 'Twist' Bohusch To: Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Giron Arnis Escrima Videos ? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello, did anyone see the videos of Grand Master Somera (www.gironarnisescrima.com)? How are they? Is it just basics or do they show any advanced principles/techniques? Any review would be welcome. Thanks, Alex --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:32:27 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Training with iron Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I used to train with iron pipes each just over 2 lb. I thought it was good for body mechanics and it probably is, promoting the development of power through the use of legs and core muscles rather than arms. Then I got into bigger blades and discovered that contrary to the popular belief, sticks and bars are not the same as big blades. I now work out occasionally with the Cold Steel 1917 cutlass, which is probably the worst balanced sword imaginable, with an awkward, slippery grip. It weighs about the same as the iron pipes but feel about twice as heavy. Looking at myself in the mirror I see that power would probably not be the first attribute to develop. I try to concentrate on controlling the point and edge indexing as well as keeping the blade in a position where there is good defensive coverage at all times. Before I swung the pipes with gay abandon. Looking at myself in the mirror, if I did that with the cutlass against a similarly armed opponent I would end up carved up pretty quickly. It feels that arm strength is more of an issue in this type of fighting (as well as footwork of course). Does anyone have an experience with fighting with big blades? I feel it is quite different from sports fencing as the fencing implements are so light in comparison. There seems little instruction out there on this topic. I hear that Antony DeLongis has a good tape on sabre fighting produced by Cold Steel. Has anyone seen it? Advice will be greatly appreciated. Michael Koblic, Campbell River, B. C. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:33:34 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Kris cutlery Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Does anyone have experience with the Japanese swords sold by the Kris cutlery? Has anyone used them for actual cutting practice? Michael Koblic, Campbell River, B. C. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:25:49 -0400 From: "JKLK" To: Subject: [Eskrima] WEKAF Equipment Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Fellow FMA'ers. I was hoping to get info/contact for WEKAF equipment. Anyone know the best suppliers quality/price wise? Thanks. Jim Kinney NJ --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "norm rayos" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:13:13 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] whips Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net does anyone on the list practice whip techniques, I wanted to get one to practice with but I do not know where to start or what length to start with... thanks _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:43:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Wylie Mitchell Subject: RE:[Eskrima] Workouts To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net As to using a bo staff....use an old one,if you want to beat it to death by fixing it vertical for the 64 count strikes. I would use a hemp or nylon rope wrapped pole myself or maybe a tree...and it's better on rattan life,too. Also, I personally would not use the black iron pipe for weight training, only because I am an AWS certified welder and have worked with metals most of my life and the pipe can eventually eject fragments that could get in your eyes, etc. Im only throwing this out there to all of you that are doing so as a precaution you should look into. We all want you to keep on practicing FMA with two good eyes!....but hey, do what you want. A good work out for your arms I have found is that crazy hindu push-up. Man, it'll do the trick if done right! Here is another good trick to build up your forearms, I have done for years is the use a 5 to 10 barbell weight( or anything around 5 lbs is best) tied to a 10"long x 1"thick stick with a 3/4" cloth strap about 2 feet long- once you have the device constructed , all you do is twist the strap around the stick by alternating your grip left to right, when the weight is up at the top you, all you do is reverse the step and bring the weight down and continue until the weight is back at the bottom and as you continue the same motion, the weight will work its way back at the top again, repeat...Do this exerise at any position you wish, even behind your back,over your head. Do this a few times. Make it a fun game with a buddy to see how many times you can do it and you will totally have a good work out burn going...trust me. Wylie Mitchell, TMAA Check out the webpage! www.geocities.com/texomamartialartsacademy/ --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page --__--__-- Message: 7 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: "Andrew Evans" Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Dragon's Way Trading Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Someone asked about http://dragonswaytrading.com so here goes... The owner of Dragons Way Trading is Micky Doto- a very humble yet dedicated individual. He travels to the PI at least once a year for training with the highly acclaimed Rodel Dagooc (see Datu Dieter Knüttel's previous post for more about Master Rodel). Mickey Doto initially wrote to me, "We are your online source for Filipino Martial arts equipment. I am writing you regarding your current supplier of escrima sticks. Our sticks are made of quality Rattan gathered from Battangas Philippines. Every Stick has been hand picked and worked on by Master Rodello Dagooc. You will find that our Prices are quite competitive." So I figured I give it a try... While his sticks are not the least expensive, they are definitely some of the best quality. My students especially like the hand carved versions- very nice. When I found out that Master Rodel Dagooc carved them, I wished I ordered twice as many. The padded sticks at www.dragonswaytrading.com are also nice. While I still prefer Sof-Stx, the ones from Dragons Way Trading are a lot less expensive. Also, some practitioners may prefer the rattan core. There are other items- all at very reasonable prices. For a while there, I assumed that I was dealing with a company located in the Philippines since the prices were so low. Not so! The outfit is located in nearby New Jersey. For us in North America, shipping is very affordable. Take care, Andrew Evans Hokkien Martial Arts www.TopekaKarate.com _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Jorge Penafiel" To: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:53:24 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Clubbells ! Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "the routines provide dynamic strength(not isolated like regular free weights) and stimulate improvement not simulate movement. Your grip strength will increase in a very short time as well". Kapatid Steve !! Greetings...Thanks for the insight on using "Clubbells" for FMA training. We'll definitely check our local sporting goods store here in Cincinnati for these items. Dynamic was the key word that specially got my attention. An innovative tool worth checking out in our quests for ways to excel in the art. Regards to Arnis Sikaran Sandatahan brothers... Jorge Penafiel Balintawak/Tang Soo Do --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Kris cutlery To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 07:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Does anyone have experience with the Japanese swords sold by the Kris > cutlery? Has anyone used them for actual cutting practice? I do not have one of Cecil's katanas, but I do know that maybe five years ago a knife magazine did a review of various production quality katanas. Cecil's Kris Cutlery model rated top billing, even over those that cost much more. FWIW. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:36:23 -0500 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Kris cutlery Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Tremendously more expensive, but worth looking at (especially for cutting; one of their massive swords cut 23 tatami mats in one strike): http://www.angelsword.com/index.php http://www.angelsword.com/Resources/cutting_competition_results.php Woody On 8/10/05, Michael Koblic wrote: > Does anyone have experience with the Japanese swords sold by the Kris > cutlery? Has anyone used them for actual cutting practice? > > Michael Koblic, > Campbell River, B. C. > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] whips To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > does anyone on the list practice whip techniques, I wanted to get one to > practice with but I do not know where to start or what length to start > with... Check out list member Guro Tom Meadows' new book, The Filipino Fighting Whip: http://www.paladin-press.com/detail.aspx?ID=1238 Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:43:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] whips To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Cc: joe@joescustomwhips.com Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Norm, Ray's suggestion of Guro Tom Meadow's book is an excellent one. I have read it and it is quite comprehensive. I practice the Sayoc Kali whip methodology and our most commonly preferred lengths are 6 feet and 8 feet. We tend to use nylon whips because of their durability and ease of care. If you are interested in them you can go to www.joescustomwhips.com. Joe is a great guy and will definitely take care of you. I would STRONGLY encourage you to seek guidance and instruction. While you can certainly learn on your own, you may see better gains and less injury with someone who can help you out. Whips can be extremely dangerous and unforgiving, but are certainly a ton of fun. If you have any other questions please feel free to let me know and if I can't answer them I'll do my best to refer you to those that can. Joe >From: norm rayos >Date: Wed Aug 10 23:13:13 CDT 2005 >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] whips >does anyone on the list practice whip techniques, I wanted to get one to >practice with but I do not know where to start or what length to start >with... >thanks > >_________________________________________________________________ >FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ? get it now! >http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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