Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 03:00:32 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #279 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: need help brothers! contract questions! (Todd Ellner) 2. eskrimathon (jim bruce) 3. "Judo" choke outs (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:31:29 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Todd Ellner" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: need help brothers! contract questions! Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >brothers, > i am in the need of all the big brothers experience and knowledge. i >am treading a topic that i am not very versed in. my situation is this. > i have a fighter that wants to sign a contract. the contract is with >a trainer/manager and my fighter. i have not seen to many contracts and >would like the assistance of everyone else to make sure that my fighter does >not get into a contract that will be trouble. please forward some >information to me or any model contracts would be helpful. any information >will be greatly appreciated. please let me know what red flags to watch out >for when getting into a contract for 3 years. thank you my brothers in >advance. it is much appreciated. Ricky, There is exactly one thing you need to know about this contract: SEE A LAWYER. You wouldn't let a kid who'd never put on a pair of gloves step into the ring with a pro boxer. You don't let yourself or your fighter step into the legal ring with this guy. You need a lawyer who's done a lot of contract law to look over this and tell you what's going on. It's more than worth the couple hundred bucks to pay for his time. Otherwise you're a guppy swimming with sharks. Good luck, Todd --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:32:00 -0700 (PDT) From: jim bruce To: Eskrima list Subject: [Eskrima] eskrimathon Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dear Master Terry, Thank you for taking the time to hold the eskrimathon event. It was a wonderful event and your time is very greatly appreciated. JAB __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] "Judo" choke outs Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Girl, 15, Dies Playing 'Pass-Out Game' Tuesday, August 16, 2005 LAWRENCE, Kan. A teenager found hanging from a dresser drawer with a coated bicycle chain lock around her neck apparently died while playing the "pass-out game," the girl's parents said. Kimberly Wilson, a 15-year-old student at Veritas Christian School in Lawrence, died last week. Her parents, Tim and Carol Wilson, began discussing the details of her death Monday because they wanted other parents to be aware of the dangers of playing the choking game, which cuts off the oxygen supply to the brain. Those who play achieve a type of "high," they said. "We are very close to our children, and we did not know this was going on," Tim Wilson said Monday. "There were no outward signs. This isn't like drugs or alcohol use, which a parent should be able to detect. "We want parents to know this is out there." The game has been in the news in recent weeks. Just last month, a 10-year-old Idaho boy was found dead, hanging from a tree. Authorities said he apparently died while trying to get high by playing the choking game. The case was similar to that three months ago in the Idaho town of Nampa, where 13-year-old Chelsea Dunn was found dead after apparently hanging herself in her closet. Tami Radohl, a Bert Nash Community Mental Health Center counselor at Southwest Junior High School in Lawrence, said the behavior is not uncommon. "This is going on in every junior high in Lawrence," Radohl said. Usually, the game involves one person causing another to pass out and, seconds later, reviving the unconscious peer. "It's like anything else that creates a high or a buzz; it can lead to addictive behavior," said Dr. Paul Loney, an emergency room physician at Lawrence Memorial Hospital. When addiction reaches the point of passing out alone, Loney said, "they're in deep trouble." Tim Wilson said his daughter did not commit suicide. He said the family has reason to believe Kimberly had played the choking game for at least a year, maybe two. "She had a history of playing this game," Wilson said. "Her death was accidental." --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest