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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2200 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Heavy hitters and adrenaline dump (Daniel Arola) 2. Heavy hitters and adrenaline dump (Michael Koblic) 3. Re: Re: Controlling Adrenaline Dump (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:11:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Arola Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Heavy hitters and adrenaline dump To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I like and agree with Woody's post. However, no amount of words cannot replace the capability to hit HARD, Heavy, and fast at the moment when it really matters. All I noticed was the title of this thread in the discussion. A person can discuss all they want about hitting hard and heavy, but it means nothing until something is done about it. practice practice PRACTICE....... Refer to the Dog Brothers Real Contact stickfighting video on Power. It's a worthy investment. Without power, how can one fight properly? I'm going back to the tires, chow 4 now! Daniel Arola WoodyTX wrote: I am no heavy hitter, but I am fairly smart and alert, and have some experience. The first time you drove a car, did you confidently take charge of the controls, and understand the relationships between velocity, reaction time, linear and lateral acceleration, and the capabilities of yourself and the vehicle? Or were you totally confused by the experience, unsure of which sensory input was important at the time? In a crisis situation, did you find yourself unable to drive into another lane, even though it was clear, simply because "you don't cross solid lines"? Don't do that now, do you? The first time you played in a team sport, did you get confused as hell, trying to figure EVERYTHING out and do what you practiced, thinking your way through the event instead of reacting to it? Didn't work, did it? :-) But you got better. The first time you sparred with a partner, did you forget about 80% of what you knew? Yeah, me too. But I got better. The first time you got drunk/stoned/dizzy/drugged, did you realize that the world didn't change, just your perceptions? Or did it take a few times? The adrenaline dump of fighting is like that. We know that adrenaline makes profound changes in the body's physiology, many of which have a huge impact on one's ability to perceive, to think, and to control his body and mind. It is an entirely new experience for many. But the more times you experience something, the better you get at handling it, and performing in that new environment. IMHO, there is a genetic component, and there's also an environmental/personality component (the thrill seeker vs. the control freak). There are obvious implications to this. Spar at full speed occasionally. Learn to embrace and even to harness the adrenaline dump. Learn your body's reaction to stimuli. The more you dive into that ocean, the better you'll swim. If you have doubts, ask an old combat soldier if he got better at handling it. ;-) Woody On 9/11/05, Michael Koblic wrote: > Animal wrote (I paraphrase) "Heavy hitters are able to control their > adrenaline dump". > > To me, this constitutes the crux of success in a confrontation, physical or > otherwise, more important than physical prowess. _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:17:56 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Heavy hitters and adrenaline dump Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "If you have doubts, ask an old combat soldier if he got better at handling it. ;-)" I have, and not all of them did. It's called "shell-shock" or some such. But the answer is surely clear from the other posts: Heavy hitters drink champagne! ....:-) Seriously, thanks to all who replied. Michael Koblic, Campbell River, B. C. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Controlling Adrenaline Dump To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Is it > acquired by a frequent exposure to situations (or would this just make you > "gun-shy" later?). I'd have to search out the findings from the archives of this list, but there was a study a year or so back that was referenced in one of the LEO training magazines. In general X% (a small %) of people will generally freeze when confronted with a potentially lethal situation, Y% will respond and react appropriately and quickly, etc. There is also crossover. I know that in a few situations I have been in the Y% category. Once or twice I found myself in the X% category. I personally think one contributing factor is your state of mind and your state of awareness at the time. If you're in condition white then a surprise situation may result in system (your system) overload and make you an X. While if you're in condition yellow it seems we are more likely to be able to be a Y. Your general level of operational awareness is something that can be trained and improved over time, imho. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest