Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 03:00:27 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #324 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. From the eclectic defense group (edg for short) (Michael Macro) 2. Re: From the eclectic defense group (edg for short) (jay de leon) 3. RE: STAB Programme (Ste Ormerod) 4. Re: Surfing the Adrenal Edge - mc riders (iPat) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Michael Macro" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:37:27 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] From the eclectic defense group (edg for short) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dear Readers, Hi folks, I considered myself to be a diligent martial artist. I learnt my Jan fan JKD from the UK and was taught it in a simplistic applicable manner, no frills just hard work and attention to the subtleties (talented instructors make the art look easy). I was taught by an excellent instructor (Sifu Lee Gagnon- Gagnon Martial Arts Academy-he’s on the web, check out one of his classes in Chester UK if you ever get the chance), which took me to where I wanted to go, to be able to defend myself quickly. I never questioned my FMA instruction because it was working for me at that time. However when I moved away from my school, I realized how incomplete my understanding of my training was. No fault of my instructors, just that my perception was askew. I would take a hit for two I delivered or worse one for one. Yet I still trained diligently in the manner I believed was correct, reinforcing drills which were static, with footwork separate and then finally combining the both. I run my own school now and decided to experiment with my own ideas. I realized this could take a long time and I have been told that the best way to get smart at a subject is to seek out like minded people. I was fortunate to be at a seminar hosted by a friend of mine Guro Louie Lindo. Guro Roger Agbulos was instructing his concepts of largo range. Guro Roger was a very close friend and student of the late Punong Guro Edgar Sulite, founder of LAMECO ESKRIMA INTL. Roger’s concept was a breath of fresh air. The reason for this is, as a Law Enforcement Officer, and part time personal trainer (Fitness Instructor as authorized by the British Columbian Recreation and Parks Authority), I realized that I trained my empty hands in a manner which would allow me to function in a fight or flight situation. Guro Roger’s training and methodology had all the right stuff, as he trained his FMA in this manner. You see sometimes it takes a person of Roger’s caliber to make things simple for the rest of us. I never thought to train in this manner, as I thought I already had all the answers (Arrogant? Possibly. Stupid? Absolutely, but humble pie tastes better with a sprinkling of accumulated of knowledge). The worst thing was that this is how I teach specific functional fitness; I could not see the wood for the trees. It allows a practitioner to function at a high caliber in a short time. He is actively conducting seminars in the US and regularly instructs with his colleague Jon J Felperin (The Center for Law Enforcement Training) in Northridge, California. This is just me a small voice out in the wilderness saying “hey guys check this Bloke out when you can”, Kind regards to you all Salamat Michael Macro www.eclecticdefensegroup.com _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:26:00 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] From the eclectic defense group (edg for short) To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Roger Agbulos is an excellent and entertaining instructor, a very knowledgeable and talented arnisador and a real-deal fighter. He was one of the featured instructors at the recently concluded "Tipunan sa Disneyland" (Gathering at Disneyland) seminar in Anaheim, CA which I hosted. You may read about Guro Roger and the seminar at http://www.fmadigest.com and click on the Special Issue on "Tipunan sa Disneyland" and also at http://www.worldblackbelt.com . Jay de Leon Michael Macro wrote: Dear Readers, Hi folks, I considered myself to be a diligent martial artist. I learnt my Jan fan JKD from the UK and was taught it in a simplistic applicable manner, no frills just hard work and attention to the subtleties (talented instructors make the art look easy). I was taught by an excellent instructor (Sifu Lee Gagnon- Gagnon Martial Arts Academy-he’s on the web, check out one of his classes in Chester UK if you ever get the chance), which took me to where I wanted to go, to be able to defend myself quickly. I never questioned my FMA instruction because it was working for me at that time. However when I moved away from my school, I realized how incomplete my understanding of my training was. No fault of my instructors, just that my perception was askew. I would take a hit for two I delivered or worse one for one. Yet I still trained diligently in the manner I believed was correct, reinforcing drills which were static, with footwork separate and then finally combining the both. I run my own school now and decided to experiment with my own ideas. I realized this could take a long time and I have been told that the best way to get smart at a subject is to seek out like minded people. I was fortunate to be at a seminar hosted by a friend of mine Guro Louie Lindo. Guro Roger Agbulos was instructing his concepts of largo range. Guro Roger was a very close friend and student of the late Punong Guro Edgar Sulite, founder of LAMECO ESKRIMA INTL. Roger’s concept was a breath of fresh air. The reason for this is, as a Law Enforcement Officer, and part time personal trainer (Fitness Instructor as authorized by the British Columbian Recreation and Parks Authority), I realized that I trained my empty hands in a manner which would allow me to function in a fight or flight situation. Guro Roger’s training and methodology had all the right stuff, as he trained his FMA in this manner. You see sometimes it takes a person of Roger’s caliber to make things simple for the rest of us. I never thought to train in this manner, as I thought I already had all the answers (Arrogant? Possibly. Stupid? Absolutely, but humble pie tastes better with a sprinkling of accumulated of knowledge). The worst thing was that this is how I teach specific functional fitness; I could not see the wood for the trees. It allows a practitioner to function at a high caliber in a short time. He is actively conducting seminars in the US and regularly instructs with his colleague Jon J Felperin (The Center for Law Enforcement Training) in Northridge, California. This is just me a small voice out in the wilderness saying “hey guys check this Bloke out when you can”, Kind regards to you all Salamat Michael Macro www.eclecticdefensegroup.com _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Ste Ormerod" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:44:45 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: STAB Programme Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all, In response to Ray Terry's enquiry about the STAB programme, I've been taught this by my instructor, Dave Green and I'm currently passing it on to my students. It is a very practical and easy to learn system. BS seems to be left at the door with it and it is very logical and down to earth. It makes no promises that it can't keep! It takes the assumption that you probably won't see the knife before it's in you and works with it. The idea is to stop it killing you, rather than showing off with fancy disarms. Every drill can be worked in a live manner. For instance, last night I was working it with one of my newbies, she had never done the drill before and as we were 'drilling' one aspect of the programme, the 2 0n 1 position, I threw in an unexpected variable, swapping hands and thrusting back at her, and she dealt with it instinctively, without me showing her, in the proper and effective manner! For more info go to:- www.karltanswell.co.uk. This is the website of the system's creator. Regards, Ste --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:00:31 +0100 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Surfing the Adrenal Edge - mc riders Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Im a Triumph rider myself A 94 Daytona 900 and a 2000 Sprint ST Vroom vroom On 9/16/05, buz_ed_alias@mac.com wrote: > > Think the clearest example of the above I can come up with involves > motorcycles. From the 69 cc Benelli minibike I bought with paper > route proceeds back in the fifth grade until more or less today I've > owned a motorcycle, ridden it hard, and somewhat surprisingly have > managed to survive the experience for the most part intact. -- iPat if you have any preconception of yourself, you cannot comprehend the unknown, that which is spontaneous. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest