Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:59:14 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #350 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Re: ´ð¸´: [Eskrima] music-jammin and slammin music (Daniel Arola) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:24:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Felipe Jocano Subject: Re: [Eskrima] music To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Am not sure anymore but CBS Sony used to have a line of tapes and later on CDs that included classical Chinese music, including the guqin. Maybe you can order at their website.... Bot --- TenDigitTouch wrote: > Was watching the movie "Hero" again last night. In > the opening fight scene at the chess house when the > unnamed one asks the old man to play more for the > duel, was that music beautiful, or what? > > I got on the net and looked up the instrument. It > is > called a guqin, or just a qin. Silk stringed > zither. > Anyway, I though it would be great to have a cd of > that music, for training. > > Apparently it is not much played in China any > longer. > It is quite expensive, compared to a guitar. > > Anyone have inexpensive sources for a cd? Thoughts > on > the music? > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Steven Lefebvre" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:46:21 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Atienza Kali Seminar in Texas Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello Everyone, Here is a great training opportunity coming to Texas! Atienza Kali Seminar Nov 12th and 13th @ Warrior's Way NOV. 12th & 13th 2005 Guro Carl Atienza Head Of Atienza Kali Atienza Kali "Discipline of the Blade" is an extremely effective system that emphasizes intensive footwork and assaults against multiple attackers, with techniques in empty hand, blade, and impromptu weapons. Topics Include: RCE Isolations Atienza Kali knife evolution 1 Mass Attack isolations Atienza Kali Single Sword evolution 1 More info about this system _www.Atienzakali.com_ (http://www.Atienzakali.com) Cost: One Day $85.00 Two Days $140.00 - Register Before October 30th - $120 Time: Saturday 10:00 am - 4:00 pm Sunday 9:00 am - 3:00 pm Location: Warrior's Way 4020 Rhea Rd 7C Wichita Falls, Texas Contact: Krystal or Harley Elmore @ 940-696-1254 Equipment: Training swords and Small training knives TO REGISTER SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER TO WARRIOR'S WAY. OR REGISTER ONLINE WITH A CREDIT CARD!!! _WWW.WARRIORSWAYTX.COM_ (http://www.WARRIORSWAYTX.COM) (We have a matted floor and ask you bring wrestling shoes or go barefoot.) Gumagalang Guro Steve L. www.Bujinkandojo.net --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:26:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Bouncer stabbing Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net the real question is, given that the stab and the knife were deliberate choices enhanced by his training, then how much of the other stuff was also picked up in the school (whether officially or unofficially)? So let's talk about secret and deadly training.... Or outside of his FMA studies... from TV and movies, from his badass buddies, off internet sites, in high school... Hard to say, without more detail, what drew his attention, and what specifically led to a pretty heinous course of action. JK "Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people." --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:56:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hamilton To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Animal's remarks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I'm going to have to agree with Animal here. I'm always a little irked at how the media has to find a good hook. Someone slashes somebody and claims to be a billy badass blackbelt it's all over the news. A martial artist does an after school program or something of that type and it's below the fold way deep in the paper. After one "news" article people think they know all about it. Abolish martial arts with knives, we've got cops for that, they scream (the whole list groans in unison over that remark). Also I'd like to be a fly on the wall at that school. Is everyone like that guy or is he the "I could be a CIA-spook/merc/spec.-forces etc if I really wanted too" guy. Oh well, I guess the saying is true, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. -Brian Message: 3 From: "Marc MacYoung" To: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 07:15:39 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Secret techniques Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ken stated > Multiple stories involving box cutters. > The PMA student who killed a bouncer in NYC by slashing his femoral > artery. He then tried to kill himself in the prison. That leaves me to > question whether he realized what he was doing when he stuck out at his > victim. Yeah he did know. 1) It wasn't a box cutter...it was a designed and marketed "fighting knife." The judge commented on the "evil" nature of weapon's design during the sentencing. 2) It wasn't just a slash, it was a stab, twist and cut out move -- very specific and trained move causing 6-10" wound while TEARING, not just cutting the femoral artery (Ask an EMT what that means) 3) It was while Dana Blake was fighting his two friends -- not him -- over their refusal to put out their cigarettes in compliance with a newly passed law. So in essence, it was an ambush while the bouncer Dana was otherwise occupied. 4) Umali fled the establishment immediately after the stabbing 5) He dropped the knife in a trash can 6) He went to a friends house where he spent the night 7) He showered the blood off 8) He disposed of his bloody clothes Now maybe someone can go "golly gee, all those things are coincidence," but speaking as an ex-criminal, let me point out that most people don't know how to get away with a crime. If there was a book out there about how to get away with such a stabbing, that guy did it by the Cliff Notes version. By going to his friend's home he made sure the blood isn't in his apartment and he disposed of the bloodied clothes in a different place than he did the knife. Coincidence? Not real likely given the fact that he was trained. His subsequent actions to hide his crime are what assisted in his conviction. And oh yeah, that strike wasn't the kind that occurs accidentally. Now the real question is, given that the stab and the knife were deliberate choices enhanced by his training, then how much of the other stuff was also picked up in the school (whether officially or unofficially)? So let's talk about secret and deadly training. M __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Billlowery" To: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:52:52 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: New web address Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi All, A quick note to say that anyone with a link to my site (previously www.nnaji.fsnet.co.uk) should change it to either: www.labanbaston.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1a.htm or labanbaston.cjb.net I'll be updating the site over the next month or so, so any links that aren't there now, will be soon! Bill --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "geezer883@juno.com" Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:08:13 GMT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Quqin music Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Re:quqin music I was at the Smithsonian several years ago and first heard the qin playing in one of their exhibits. I was very taken with the music and found several CD's for sale in the Smithsonian store. Perhaps they would still be able to provide the CD's over the Smithsonian on-line store. I hadn't thought of swinging sticks to the music, but I find it very calming, and do standing meditation to the qin music. Rob -- eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net wrote: --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Integrated Martial Arts & Fitness" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:43:06 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Battle at the Boardwalk in Atlantic city Feb 17-19 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net For those interested in participating in a multi discipline martial arts event please check out the following. The stickfighting portion will entail WEKAF rules. Anyone interested in the stickfighting event please contact me. Thanks, Don Edwards www.imafit.com info@imafit.com "GHK Enterprises Presents The Atlantic City Grand Internationals" Atlantic City Convention Center Atlantic City , NJ February 17-19,2006 8 Separate Championships! Multi-Discipline Martial Arts Extravaganza... Disciplines Include: *Eskrima (Full contact stickfighting) - Director, Master Don Edwards *Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu and Submission Grappling-Master Jean Jacque Machado *WTF Taekwondo-Director,Master's Edward & James Hsu *ITF Taekwondo-Director,Mr. Alvin Bernard *Jiu-Jitsu-Master Michael DePasquale Jr. *Combative Sports Weaponry,Director, Drs. Braff and Hufford *Breaking-Master Drew Serrano,GM Ralph Bergamo *Sport Karate-Director,Master John Chung Also Featuring a Pro mixed Martial Arts event...IFC Cage Fighting Registration will be available November 1st. for info visit: www.battleattheboardwalk.com e-mail info@battleattheboardwalk.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: RHebb21269@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:35:57 EDT Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Filipino Music To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net If you're interested in Filipino Music, try contacting Guro Eleanor Academia, she is Guro Cass Magda's wife. She's has extensive training in Kulintang music. In fact, she heads the World Kulintang Institute. You can contact her through cassmagda.com. She has a Kulintang CD available! --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Webber Ding" To: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:46:51 +0800 Subject: [Eskrima] =?gb2312?B?tPC4tDogW0Vza3JpbWFdIG11c2lj?= Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Ray, I saw your Email. I'm from Shanghai China, and I think I can get the CDs with Chinese classical music, includes played with Qin. If you are interested, I can mail you 2-3 cds. Waiting for your reply. Regards, Webber Ding -----ÓʼþÔ­¼þ----- ·¢¼þÈË: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net [mailto:eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net] ´ú±í TenDigitTouch ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: 2005Äê10ÔÂ15ÈÕ 21:21 ÊÕ¼þÈË: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ö÷Ìâ: [Eskrima] music Was watching the movie "Hero" again last night. In the opening fight scene at the chess house when the unnamed one asks the old man to play more for the duel, was that music beautiful, or what? I got on the net and looked up the instrument. It is called a guqin, or just a qin. Silk stringed zither. Anyway, I though it would be great to have a cd of that music, for training. Apparently it is not much played in China any longer. It is quite expensive, compared to a guitar. Anyone have inexpensive sources for a cd? Thoughts on the music? Ray _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:17:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Arola Subject: Re: [Eskrima] ´ð¸´: [Eskrima] music-jammin and slammin music To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I always got to play some music on the box during training. In my group classes and to the backyard, etc. Tomorrow, if I find it...(amidst the clutter here) I'm gonna put on the Santana "Abraxas" cd in the player for the class. Daniel Arola Fayetteville, NC http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DAMAG_Kali_Stickfighting Webber Ding wrote: Hi Ray, I saw your Email. I'm from Shanghai China, and I think I can get the CDs with Chinese classical music, includes played with Qin. If you are interested, I can mail you 2-3 cds. Waiting for your reply. Regards, Webber Ding -----ÓʼþÔ­¼þ----- ·¢¼þÈË: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net [mailto:eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net] ´ú±í TenDigitTouch ·¢ËÍʱ¼ä: 2005Äê10ÔÂ15ÈÕ 21:21 ÊÕ¼þÈË: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ö÷Ìâ: [Eskrima] music Was watching the movie "Hero" again last night. In the opening fight scene at the chess house when the unnamed one asks the old man to play more for the duel, was that music beautiful, or what? I got on the net and looked up the instrument. It is called a guqin, or just a qin. Silk stringed zither. Anyway, I though it would be great to have a cd of that music, for training. Apparently it is not much played in China any longer. It is quite expensive, compared to a guitar. Anyone have inexpensive sources for a cd? Thoughts on the music? Ray _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. 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