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Article: when the wolfpack attacks (bgdebuque) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 00:41:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Felipe Jocano Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Kalasag & taming To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi manong Jay; Panangga is derived from sangga, which means to block, so panangga is literally a blocker :-) which as a more generic term for anything that shields you. Depending on the context, I suppose. On the other hand, shields as a weapon aren't used anymore, except by the riot police. If you want to use it as a generic term for anything that blocks or stops an attack, I think you'll get the meaning across. I'm thinking of double-weapon practice, where one weapon deflects or parries the attack and the other one comes in at the same time.... Come to think of it, I only saw one reference to blocking hands as shielding hands. A blocking hand can be a shielding hand, but when you think of blocks as shields, then the whole idea of blocking takes on a new meaning. Bot --- jay de leon wrote: > Hi Bot: > > Question for you. May you use the word "panangga" > as the generic word for shield, when you are not > referring to a kalasag or taming in particular, or > say, an improvised weapon? Or is there another > word? > > Thanks, > Jay de Leon > > > > > Felipe Jocano wrote: > Hi, > > The shield is kalasag in Tagalog and taming in > Bisaya. > Taming is pronounced with a short a, as in ta-ming, > not tay-ming. As for differences, the kalasag is > often > depicted as being a long shield, while the taming is > circular. If you can get hold of a copy of William > Henry Scott's Barangay, there are some descriptions > of > kalasag and taming in there. > > Bot > > BTW, the kalasag is often what is depicted in all > those drawings about the ancient Filipino warriors. > It > appears on the emblems of the Philippin National > Police, of the Armed Forces, etc. > > > > In the meantime, in recent notes i quickly wrote > > that the term for what i > > know as the 'shield' is known as Kalasang or > Kalasak > > or Tamming. Can anyone > > advise me on the correct spelling or origin. > thanks. > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! 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FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 02:43:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Profiling Trouble To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi All, I am very interested in your "intimadation" techniques and also the "demeanor" that Lance talks about in his previous email. I am not sure if this has been covered yet since I have not finished reading thru the resource archives. Anyway, I feel that this would be a powerful tool to use. A sort of "fight without fighting" technique. My fiance and I were talking about this earlier where she asked what would I do if I came up against an "aggressor." I simply told her that I would be prepared to fight, keep my guard up etc. show my empty hands and say, "I'm a peaceful man, I don't want to fight..." etc. etc. Is this the right approach? wrong approach? wrong signals? Thanks, Jay >From: bgdebuque >Date: Sun Oct 23 20:44:58 CDT 2005 >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Profiling Trouble >I have personally been to some of the worst neighborhoods in the >Philippines. Based on my experience the key to avoiding street >confrontations is to project a certain level of intimidation at the the >right time, at the right place, and at the right person. For legal and >ethical reasons, such intimidation is rarely verbal nature. Instead, it >takes the form of some kind of "body language" which streetsmart thugs >readily understand. > The ability to profile effectively is the key to projecting the right level >of intimidation from the "right person" perspective. Basically, you want to >assess the intimidation treshold of a potential street threat and then >project the right level of "body language threat" accordingly. > Few street thugs would dare cross their profiled "intimidation treshold". > Bill --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 00:48:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Felipe Jocano Subject: Re: [Eskrima] 40 hrs in Manila To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi manong Jay, As for age exchanges, I was still around 3 or 4 years old when it was still P0.10 :-) "upong diyes" meant you could sit your whole butt on the seat. "upong singko" was half your butt on the seat :-) if you gave a whole peso to the driver early in the morning, he would give you a mean look, especially if you were the first one. Still the same when it later rose to P0.25 :-) Bot --- jay de leon wrote: > Hi Bot : > > Long time no email exchange. This will give away my > age, but when I was a kid in RP, the lowest possible > jeepney fare was P0.10 or 10 centavos or in Tagalog, > "diyes centimos" or "diyes." At the current > exchange rate, that is about $0.002 or less than a > cent. > > When you ride a jeepney, they have small signs > inside the jeep, usually some witticism or bon mot > the Filipinos are known for. One of these was > "upong diyes po lamang." Literally, it meant > "please sit in the space allotted you by your 10 > centavos" meaning, please do not hog the seat so we > can pack as many people as possible inside the > jeepney. > > Jay de Leon. > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:09:11 +0100 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Profiling Trouble Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Not every situation is the same so not one answer covers all, but it may be that when you sense a threat others around you may not. So its necessary to be able to create a public perception that you are not engaging a fight (having your hands up could make you look like the aggressor) while covering all the angles. Some bodyguard info is good for this, the way they position their hands, body etc. If its gone beyond that point of no return and you have familly to protect then you dont have to worry about public perception but if you look like you dont have the heart (hands up saying peace brother) then the 'aggressor' will be encouraged. In general, people dont attack you unless they think they can get away with it. Before it gets to that stage you need to make sure the percentages are in your favour. Dont get into that situation in the first place by either being aware of the environment, not over indulging in those extra beers or showcasing items of value. iPod earphones and talking on the cell phone are all awareness killers - just watch people and pretend you are the predator for a day. ive had both sides of the coin. Ive had predators stare at me and i acted dumb, kept them in line of sight but in a way that avoided eye contact and acted like i wasnt clued in - made sure they didnt come close and not give them an excuse either. Then ive had people shrink and move away when they have been strutting and realised i was in their vicinity. I dont go looking for it but then again i cant go and relax in bars or nightclubs, hence why i rarely go out to those types of locations anymore. Doorwork is a different subject as you are there for a purpose so the mindset is different. Those of you who know San Fransisco and the old Fairtex location will appreciate some of these skills came into use when getting lost looking for the gym one Friday night on holiday. I didnt know the gym had moved and so ended up in the wrong neighbourhood looking, acting like we knew where we were going while keeping discreet with any wealthy items on our person! We zig zagged several times avoiding groups of males along a street without trying to make it too obvious! MacYoung and others can give you better advise no doubt. On 10/24/05, dvljr1@verizon.net wrote: > > My fiance and I were talking about this earlier where > she asked what would I do if I came up against an "aggressor." I > simply told her that I would be prepared to fight, keep my guard up > etc. show my empty hands and say, "I'm a peaceful man, I don't want > to fight..." etc. etc. Is this the right approach? wrong approach? > wrong signals? > > Thanks, > Jay > > -- > iPat > "Intellect and intelligence do not go together. Intelligence is obtained > only when the heart and mind reach an agreement." Krishnamurti --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Kevin Davis" To: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:53:23 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Shocknife Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Gents, Don't shoot the messenger...I don't have money in this project. It is, IMHO, a good idea. The Shocknife is not designed to replace training with plastic, wood or metal trainers. I proudly wore the bruises given to me by Suro Inay and others with aluminum trainers. The Shocknife is designed to induce a sympathetic nervous system reaction (fight or flight) in a safe training environment. Similar to the Simunitions (marking cartridges) currently used by LE and the military in force on force training, the threat of an "owwie" from the Shocknife makes the defender clean up his techniques and induce the motor skill deterioration of fight or flight. Some eskrimadors have done this with live blade training or sparring with bundles of burning incense rods. The Shocknife can do it with no injury potential. Price...well like I said, I ain't sellin' 'em...but how many have paid more for less in terms of training equipment? It hurts to get "cut" with this thing and that feedback is different than paint marks you can point to after a sparring session. There is value in facing the pain and learning to work through it and the effects of stress. Mabuhay ang Inayan Eskrima! KD --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:52:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Kohn Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Article: when the wolfpack attacks To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net MAN! I gotta train with this guy! -Steve Kohn Todd Ellner wrote: Ah, yes, Phil Messina. If you ever have the chance to train with him you'd be a damned fool not to. His record speaks for itself. Speaks? Hell, it howls at the top of its lungs. NYPD's most decorated officer. Most felony arrests. One of about three survivors (as in the others were all dead) of the Violent Street Crimes Unit. Founder of ASLET. Vietnam-era Marine with an very distinguished service record. More black belts than most of us have t-shirts. Regularly has the White House Marine Guards and the FBI HRT over for training. Founder of Modern Warrior, probably the best police tactics, martial arts and women's self defense school on the continent, bar none. And he makes the differences between the three absolutely explicit. Old buddy of luminaries like Jim Cirrilo and Massad Ayoob. Et cetera. Et cetera. Et cetera. His advice on anything connected with staying alive when other people don't want you to is solid gold. If he hasn't personally been there and done it out in the world a couple dozen of his students have. He's constantly researching and improving his stuff and is dedicated to preparing the good guys to deal with the bad guys with a zeal that borders on the religious. His particular specialty is dealing with multiple armed assailants. He did it for years and is still alive when he shouldn't be. Many of his students owe their lives to what he's taught them. I've only taken a couple short courses from him (two/three day things) and a number of shorter units of instruction at AWSDA events. Every one of them has changed the way I do something, always for the better. He was doing something about short-circuiting the effects of adrenaline, fighting from the ground, beating multiple attackers and similar for years or decades before it was on anyone else's radar. Within a couple months of 9/11 he had a very practical self-contained system for fighting terrorists in close quarters such as airplanes. If nothing else he deserves a hell of a lot of credit for his research on things like time and distance (the Tueller drill refined and better defined), the utter fraud that is pepper spray and teaching police to use palm strikes rather than punches. I've met a lot of well-trained, well-prepared people. On average his students are a couple steps ahead of the best of them. _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2200 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:18:08 -0400 From: bgdebuque To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Article: when the wolfpack attacks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have personally known of only two instances when a single person was attacked by a Southeast Asian street mob and survived - the first one happened in Manila, Philippines while the other one happened in Jakarta, Indonesia. The following were the lessons learned from these encounters: 1. Don't let yourself get surrounded. Run! 2. As you are running, be on the lookout for any potential field-expedient weapon (e.g. pieces of wood, rocks, empty bottles, etc.). 3. A mob will not be able to run after you bunched-up like a marathon pack. After about a block or two, one or two individuals will be able to break away from the pack. 3. If the breakaway members of the mob get too close for comfort, stop and hit back, then resume running. This will show the rest that you are not running out of sheer fear but is actually executing a tactical retreat. In both of the abovementioned cases, the would-be victim was able to execute this stop-and-hit maneuver about 3 to 4 times. 4. The "fighting spirit" of street mobs are highly territorial. Once they reach the perceived boundary of their "territory", you will see a drastic decline in the size of the mob. In both of the abovementioned cases, the would be-victim was able to reach the "territorial boundary" of the street mob chasing him and, all of a sudden, amusingly found himself running alone. > > -- __--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jye nigma > To: jyesluv@hotmail.com > Subject: [Eskrima] Article: how does BJJ handle multiple attackers? > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > How does Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu work against multiple attackers? > > Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is not suited for fighting multiple opponents. On the > ground, you cannot engage more than one opponent at a time. Jiu-Jitsu is > ideally suited for one-on-one combat. Multiple attackers will come at you > from all directions; you are sure to be hit or tackled from behind. When you > are committed on the ground, you dramatically reduce your mobility and > peripheral vision. In the case of multiple attackers, your safest option is > to remain on your feet and escape when the opportunity presents itself. Any > martial artist who claims he can fight off multiple attackers is either > deluded or deliberately misleading. The fact is, there is no magic style > that can guarantee your chances of victory. Exchanging blows with only one > opponent who is bigger, stronger and heavier is very dangerous at best. > Exchanging blows with multiple opponents who are bigger, stronger, and > heavier is pure suicide. Even if your opponents are not bigger than you, > they can easily overwhelm you with their > sheer numbers. > > > > Unless your attackers are Hollywood stuntmen, they will not conveniently > attack you, one at a time or stand in a single file line. In the real world, > you will either be surrounded and assaulted all at once, or tackled and > brought to the ground, where your assailants will continue to punch and kick > you while you lay trapped. If you cannot prevent just one attacker from > taking you to the ground, you will not be able to prevent a takedown against > two or more attackers. Your best and safest option when confronted with > multiple attackers is to get out of the situation—fast. If you cannot run, > you must stay on your feet and engage your opponents, one at a time, with > accurate strikes to vital areas of the body (groin, eyes, throat), or > utilize grappling techniques that allow you to control your attacker on your > feet. You must always keep an opponent between yourself and the rest of your > attackers. Never let yourself become surrounded. Your goal should be to look > for the first possible > opening to escape as soon as possible. All it takes is just one punch from > behind and you could be knocked out. What happens afterwards is entirely up > to your attackers. If you are knocked out on the street, you are as good as > dead. > > > > The martial arts world is constantly filled with exaggerations and wild > claims of superhuman feats. Perhaps the most common is that one unarmed man > can defeat an aggressive mob by himself. Don't be fooled by these so-called > masters claiming to be able to defeat multiple attackers. It looks great on > the movie screen, but it doesn't happen that way in real life. It's one > thing to fight off a bunch of 10-year old kids. It's another thing > altogether to be surrounded by an angry group, determined to hurt you. There > is NO martial art style that can realistically prepare you to defeat > multiple opponents or overwhelm mass attacks. There are only certain > strategies and tactics you can employ to increase your chances of survival, > but no matter what style you train in, your chances of defeating multiple > opponents drop sharply as your opponents increase in number. > > > Practitioners of the striking arts face the same disadvantages that > grapplers do when confronted against multiple assailants. > > > When you commit yourself to engaging one opponent, be it striking or > grappling, you leave yourself open to attacks from behind. Even if you have > eyes in the back of your head, you still only have two fists and two feet. > Ironically, many of the martial artists who have made such outlandish claims > have proven incapable of defending against even one single attacker in > no-holds-barred competition. If you want to train yourself to fight multiple > attackers, find some training partners, put on some pads, and let your > partners come at you full force. You will get a very "real" and different > perspective. Stay safe by avoiding multiple opponents altogether. If you > must defend yourself, look for the first possible opening to escape. > > > > There is the misconception that Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu stylists mindlessly > advocate taking the fight to the ground. This is totally untrue. There are > times when taking the fight to the ground is clearly dangerous and > undesirable. Most grappling styles train throws and takedowns in one form or > another. As a result, grapplers become very skilled at countering takedown > attempts and this makes them better qualified than strikers should they > choose to remain on their feet. Most striking styles do not train throws or > takedowns to the extent that grapplers do. If one does not train throws or > takedowns, then one will not understand how to defend against them. Should > the grappler decide to remain standing, he can make use of his grappling > skills to counter his attacker's attempts and fight from the standing > clinch. If he is taken down to the ground, his knowledge of ground fighting > will allow him to return to his feet quickly if need be. > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > -- __--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 18:27:03 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jye nigma > To: Jyesluv@hotmail.com > Subject: [Eskrima] Article: when the wolfpack attacks > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > When the Wolf Pack Attacks > by George Demetriou > > > > The first attacker lunged and grabbed the officer's upper legs. The second > attacker grabbed the officer's left arm and upper body. The officer wrapped > his arms around the first attacker and struggled to stay on his feet. The > attackers had their way, forcing the 6'5", 275 lb. officer to the ground. At > this point a third attacker joined in the assault. The three miscreants > pummeled and kicked the fallen officer. Now, the attackers could have left, > just run away. Instead, they disarmed the officer, shot him and left him > dead on the side of the road. > > This incident, unfortunately, actually occurred. January 23rd, 1991 on > Highway 59 in Garrison, Texas, 57 year old Nacogdoches County Constable, > Darrell Lunsford was murdered during a vehicle stop. Lunsford was about to > discover the occupants of the vehicle he stopped were transporting > Marijuana. Within 3 seconds of the attack, Lunsford was taken to the ground. > 11 seconds later he was shot. We have the facts and times because the entire > incident was recorded by a dash-mounted camera in Lunsford's cruiser. > > -------------- > > A tactical approach to Multiple Assailant Defense in police survival > training was introduced officially to the country in 1989. Phil Messina, > President of Modern Warrior(r) Defensive Tactics Institute, taught Multiple > Assailant Confrontations at the American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers > (ASLET) seminar in Kansas City, MO. > > It's disturbing that, with the exception of firearm instructors, 5 years > later most departments still aren't addressing multiple assailants as a > topic in training. The Lunsford murder was televised on the evening news > nationwide yet there is no significant indication that departments are > making sure this will not reoccur. The FBI reports 40% of assaults against > police officers are by more than one attacker. Yet the majority of defensive > tactics instructors haven't modified training to reflect this. "As one on > one training for cops improves, bad guys will develop "wolf pack" techniques > to attack single officers," says Messina. > > > Mind Set > We have to start multiple attacker training by changing the way we think. > Often in police training, instructors train people not to lose as opposed to > training them to win. > > There are three possible mind sets: > > 1. I'm going to lose > > 2. I'll take as many as I can (this is the same as "I'll lose, but "I'll > take some of them with me") or > > 3. I'm going to win > > Choice #3 is the only acceptable mind set. > > > Time Framing > For every segment of time you have, your attackers have an equal segment. > Don't just read this, understand it. Make the most of your "pieces of time" > while you make your attackers waste theirs. Let's say you're faced with 3 > attackers; 1 throws a strike, you take two time frames to block and > counterstrike, occupying that 1 attacker's time frames effectively. However, > what are the other 2 attackers going to do while you're confronting their > partner? Here's a clue: they're not just going to stand there. > > Now visualize this. You shift away from #1's punch (first time frame) then > strike #2 and kick #3 simultaneously (second time frame.) Your time frames > are positive while your assailants' are negative. Of course, this was > over-simplified to demonstrate a point. In scenario #2 the good guy was > productive while he forced the wolf pack's initial time frames to be wasted. > The good guy is off to a good start. > > > Physio-kinetics > An important component of defending against the wolf pack is understanding > physio-kinetics, or what makes the body work in terms of mobility and power. > > Power is based on the reaction of the hips and shoulders. Mobility is > determined by the reaction of the hips and knees. To affect a person's power > (striking, grabbing) and mobility (stepping, kicking) you have to control or > influence the hips. There's no safe way to grab the hips directly so we > control them with the shoulders and knees. Secondarily we use the elbows, > wrists, neck and ankles. Understanding physio-kinetics enables you to move > off-balance, execute a takedown or break an assailant's hold without having > to memorize specific techniques. > > For multiple assailant confrontations we use the "high end" of > physio-kinetics. The formula is vision, wind and limbs. The target areas for > kicks and strikes should be vital points of the body that make it difficult > or impossible for the assailants to see, breathe or use their arms and legs. > > When redirecting attacks, moving one attacker in the way of the others or > breaking from an attacker's hold we're using the "low-end" of > physio-kinetics, when counter striking and kicking our goal is vision, wind > and limbs. > > > General Strategy > Ideally you want to fight a psychological battle as well as a physical > one. If feasible you want to try to identify the leader of the group and > take him out of the fight quickly and decisively. Remember your goal is to > use the minimum force necessary and with multiple attackers this may mean > seriously injuring one attacker so that you won't have to seriously injure > (or kill) many attackers. Sometimes an open hand jab to the eyes or the > sound of a broken bone will be necessary to accomplish this. > > If you can't neutralize the leader immediately try to take away his > leadership by showing the rest of the group he can't protect them. It's > actually better in a multiple attacker situation not to try to knock > everyone out. Rather try to make attackers scream and run, or announce their > injury, such as "I can't see" or "My leg is broken." This often will cause > others to retreat thereby ending the confrontation earlier and with less > force than might otherwise be necessary. > > Remember your immediate goal in a multiple assailant confrontation is not > to put the handcuffs on all your attackers. Your immediate goal is to > survive. > > Other Tips: > > · When in doubt as to who the leader is, neutralize the assailant behind > you. > > · Weak link (hurting an assailant but leaving him standing so you can use > him against the others.) > > · Strike and kick the person you're not looking at. > > · Use compact (short and choppy) strikes while moving. > > · Don't hang kicks out. They should go out and come back quickly. Keep > them low and execute while moving. > > · Do more than one thing at a time. For example, kick one attacker as you > strike another. Strike two in one time frame. Push one into another as you > kick a third. > > · Move fluidly, but erratically. Don't be predictable. > > · Keep a low center of gravity. > > · The strikes and kicks you can't avoid-block. What you can't block-roll > off of. What you can't roll off of jam. > > · Be economical. Eliminate unnecessary movement. > > · Put your attackers in each other's way. > > > Pre-Attack Indicators > Just before an attack there is usually a sign, if not several, that an > assault is imminent. Recognizing these indicators will reduce the chances of > a "surprise" attack. > Raspiness in voiceStress makes the vocal chords tighten, making the voice > raspy.Repeated phrasesWhen someone is thinking of how to attack you it's > difficult for them to be creativeUnusual sweatingSweating on a cold day. > Sweat on nose, sides of mouth or (stress sweat) palms.Tightening of > jaw/clenching teethPre-fight facial tensions will cause jaw muscle to > bulge.Mouth breathingTaking in air through mouth instead of noseWeight > shiftingAttacker will often shift weight in preparation of a "surprise" > attack. Usually shift will favor one side.Fist clenching (pumping)When > stress causes blood to move away from extremities an assailant will often > pump his fists to regain the "normal" feeling in his hands.Shoulders roll > forward, chin drops, knees bendOld animal instincts we retained. These 3 > things are usually done together for protection purposes when anticipating a > fight.Target glancingAn attacker will often look several times at the area > he wants to strike.Reaction hand distractionAn > assailant may point to something to distract you so he can strike with his > other hand. He may ask you the time so he can strike while you look at your > watch.Pre-Multiple IndicatorsPositioning relative to each otherWhen one > person in the group moves, the others set up accordingly.Suspects glance > at each other oftenThey're silently communicating or waiting for the attack > signal.Word or word's that don't quite make senseAn attacker may say > something that will momentarily confuse you. In that moment of trying to > figure out what was said or what was meant the group attacksUnusual body > languageAn attacker may engage you in conversation then wipe his hair back, > remove his hat or tug on his ear as a signal for his wolf pack to > attack.Secondary subject distractionOne member of the pack may get you to > look at another member of the group so he can strike you. > > Multiple Training > Multiple training does not mean take your one on one defensive tactics and > apply them to a group. To do so could get you seriously injured. > Modifications will probably have to be made. Some components of single > assailant tactics will be valid, many will not. > > Consider Firearm Retention. Police officers are generally taught to keep > the firearm side (strong side) back when confronted. With 2 or more > attackers this will often be impossible. > > If you use wide baton swings, swinging the baton from your strong side of > the body to your weak side, you're putting your arms in a position that's > detrimental to Firearm Retention during a multiple confrontation. > > How about chemical irritants? The more attackers the more spray you're > going to put in the air and eventually you'll probably have to move through > the mist. From what I've seen chemical sprays work better on cops than bad > guys. What if you're temporarily blinded and the wolf pack is hardly > affected at all? > > Consider grappling techniques. Applying an arm lock, leg lock or neck > restraint during a multiple may be possible but unless the other assailants > run away you'll probably get beaten or disarmed. The worst techniques in a > multiple are those that require all four of your limbs to control one > person. > > Besides modifying strategy and techniques there are drills to develop the > mind and body to effectively defend yourself when the odds are against you. > 1) Multiple Heavy Bag Drill > Setting up at least three different sized heavy bags to practice smoothly > moving from one to the other, striking them without looking directly at them > and not getting hit by them as they swing. Try to keep the bags, and as much > of the room as possible, in your view, not focusing in on one bag. > 2) Evasion Drill > Evading a thrown object teaches one to "take in" the whole room. If you > tunnel in on the object coming at you, you'll often get hit with it. You > cannot judge the speed accurately unless you spread or "funnel" your vision. > When you spread your vision your mind can compare the speed of the object > moving to the rest of the stationary objects in the room, giving you an > accurate gauge. It's easier to avoid a punch if you don't focus in on your > opponent's fist coming at you. It is imperative to "funnel" and not "tunnel" > your vision during a confrontation. > 3) Three on One Grip Breaking Drill > Knowledge of breaking various grips (on clothing, hair and wrists) is a > pre-requisite. 3 "bad guys" moving at a slow to moderate pace grab "good > guy". Good guy's goal is to move constantly and economically, breaking grips > with as little struggle as possible. Good guys should use cracking (stepping > between assailants), screening (use one assailant to block the others) and > redirecting (deflecting an attack (person) into another attacker or a solid > object - a wall or car will do.) > 4) Redirection Drills > Redirecting bad guy who attempts to grab your legs, tackle you or pin you > against a wall. Start slowly and progressively pick up speed. > 5) Two on One Blocking Drill > Good guy stands in one spot so he's forced to block and not evade. 2 > "attackers" stand at 45 degree angles in front of "good guy" and throw > strikes and kicks at him. Good guy must be economical in moving and span his > vision. > 6) Three on One Firearm Retention > Three "attackers" in full protective equipment (head to toe) try to disarm > good guy. Good guy must defend himself and keep his firearm. > 7) Ground Fighting > I've heard trainers say "In a multiple situation don't go to the ground, > you won't be able to protect yourself against the group." The problem is > this: you may find yourself knocked to the ground because you're confronting > a group of attackers. In a perfect world you wouldn't hit the ground in a > multiple confrontation when attacked. But don't forget Darrell Lunsford was > on the ground within 3 seconds. Techniques should include falling, defense > against kicks and stomps, a ground position that will allow easy access to > your equipment, ground shooting tactics and safely getting up. > > During the above drills trainees should be constantly reminded to span out > (funnel) vision, listen for what's being said or foot steps. On an advanced > level the drills can be done with changes to the environment (make surface > slippery by using plastic bags, change the lighting by using different > colors, strobe and dim light, add in loud sounds - radio, gunshots, etc.) to > make the stress level higher. > > > Keep in Mind > Think about achievable goals. (Like vision, wind and limbs.) You have more > targets than the wolf pack does. Don't think about damage you'll inflict or > receive. > > The wolf pack by, nature, is chaotic and that can be used against them. > You want to cause the chaos without becoming a part of it. Ideally, you want > to fight instinctively yet strategize and analyze. You have to be able to > think on an unconscious and conscious level. With proper training your mind > and body will work together to the point that you will plan at moments of > the battle and at other moments you'll react correctly without thought at > all. > > Multiple assailant confrontations is a subject that's long overdue in > police training. Ignoring it or just mentioning it in the gym will continue > to get cops injured and killed. As this article was being completed, an off > duty NYC Transit Detective Sergeant was beaten and pistol whipped with his > own firearm. Fortunately the Detective Sergeant is alive. He needed > extensive plastic surgery to re-construct his face. He had confronted a > rowdy, beer drinking group of teens at 5:30 AM in front of the building he > lives in. Instead of leaving when requested, the group attacked the sergeant > and beat him to the extent that his friends didn't recognize him in the > hospital. > > The days of a multiple assailant attack on a police officer being a rare > occurrence are over. Officer survival and defensive tactics programs won't > be complete unless they address multiple assailant confrontations. > > In 1989 Phil Messina stood in front of his peers like a lone voice > shouting into the wind. Now finally other voices are joining his. And mine > is one of them. We as trainers cannot avoid the future, so let's face it > head on. > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! 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