Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:01:28 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #386 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. RE: Natural Fighters (Young Forest) 2. Bullet in the Factory... (Wylie Mitchell) 3. Natural Fighter - Co-worker Puts father in hospital (Peter Gow) 4. Re: Where's the Art? DB Gathering of the Pack (bgdebuque) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Young Forest" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:45:39 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Natural Fighters Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >From: "Todd Ellner" > >The naturals don't impress me much. The ones who get my respect are the >pluggers who end up eating the naturals' lunch. When the guy with loads of >talent gets to the end of where native ability will take him (or hits 30, >same thing in many ways...) he'll often quit. The guy who's had to work for >it the whole time will keep on going until he gets over the next hill. I knew a guy years ago who I would refer to as a 'natural', although he wasn't big, strong, fierce, tough... any of those typical attributes. When the fight started, he would just wimp out, simper, beg, cajole, whatever it took for you to decide not to stomp him flat. And when you had forgotten about him, he'd coldcock you with a right hook. That was his entire game plan, and it worked well for him. Eventually, it all caught up on him when he managed to blow out the tendons in his right forearm, requiring surgery to fix. We're all talking about tough guys here, it seems, but guile can be just as powerful. Badger Siling Labuyo Arnis --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:41:09 -0800 (PST) From: Wylie Mitchell To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Bullet in the Factory... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net ".......Filipinos would often say that: "while the bullet was still in the factory, the victim's name was already written on it by destiny........" Curiously, I come across this all the time with the anting beliefs and all. Those great Filipinos have a saying," Bahala na", roughly meaning- "What ever may come"or just "Whatever". My girlfriend, Madona is from around San Jose area in La Union on Luzon, and she tells me that...all the time! For instance, we may be going to Dallas or somewhere and she is driving...(I know...I know...)...anyway, she is going 90 to nothing and I'll say,"Mahal, slow down." and she'll just look at me and tell me "bahala na" and go into a rant that if we are to die, there aint nothing I can do about, so why slow down, and shut up!... It's a different world over there...God Bless 'em! Check out the webpage! www.geocities.com/texomamartialartsacademy/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Peter Gow" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:35:39 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Natural Fighter - Co-worker Puts father in hospital Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Steve, In your article you mentioned that your co-worker put his father in hospital for three months - this to me sets the alarm bells ringing. One possibility that comes to mind is that your co-worker may have possibly gained his fighting experience by being beaten up by his father on a regular basis until he could tolerate no more ...end result hospital for his father. Now if a child is beaten across the head the result of the brain moving inside the skull and being subjected to repetative bruising will have an effect. Being beaten/bashed at a young age is bound to increase pain tolerance levels as well as increase your ability to not be dominated but to be the Alpha Dog. You can see this classic treatment in dogs and cats especially cats, where the male cat continually harrasses the young male offspring(but not the females hahaha),  increasing their respect for him as well as teaching them how to fight. Many animals do this.  But perhaps I am wrong in regards to your co-worker.  Best Regards, Peter Gow Australia   --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:31:07 -0500 From: bgdebuque To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Where's the Art? DB Gathering of the Pack Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Perfectly said. A full contact fighter should always attempt to reconcile his full contact fighting experiences to what he could possibly encounter in a real-life combat scenario. Despite the limitations imposed by political correctness rules and protective gear, full contact fighting is the closest training experience an MA practitioner could possibly get to a real fight-for-life situation. If one has doubts as to the real-life training value of full-contact fighting, just bear in mind that foot soldiers are being made to undergo pugil stick training (the full-contact version of bayonet fighting); special operations units regularly shoot at one another with paint rounds, and; tank crews and fighter pilots fight their first battles in simulators. Message: 5 > From: "Marc Denny" > To: > Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:45:13 -0800 > Subject: [Eskrima] Where's the Art? DB Gathering of the Pack > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "...Sometimes a man's ego may blind him to what really happened, but speaking for myself my attitude is to take seriously any shot that has its consequences diminished by the fencing mask in my assessment of the lessons of the fight." --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest