Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:01:14 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #401 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Arnis a medal event at the South East Asian Games (RJ Garcia) 2. Musashi (Lance Cross) 3. Rules used in the SEA Games (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 04:06:07 +0000 (GMT) From: RJ Garcia To: FilipinoMartialArts@yahoogroups.com, eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Arnis a medal event at the South East Asian Games Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mabuhay! Arnis Philippines Incorporated (ArPI), the National Sports Association for arnis in the Philippines and member of the Philippine Olympic Committee, is inviting everyone to watch the arnis events at the 23rd South East Asian Games to be held on December 3 and 4, 10am-3pm, at the Emilio Aguinaldo College Gymnasium, United Nations Avenue, Manila. Arnis was first included as an exhibition event at the 1992 SEA Games, and now for the first time will be a medal sport, with 6 events (men's full contact, women's full contact, men's solo anyo, women's solo anyo, men's group anyo, and women's group anyo). ArPI has focused its resources into this momentous event, the only official ArPI event for the month of December. Please be informed, however, that Arnis Philippines, with its mandate of propagating knowledge of the Filipino martial arts primarily through sports development, will be coordinating with foreign arnis/FMA organizations in the succeeding months to set up National Sports Associations (NSAs, official sports bodies per country recognized by their respective Olympic Committees) in their respective countries, to pave the way for the conduct of international tournaments. For more information, please visit our website: http://www.arnisphilippines.com or email us at: info@arnisphilippines.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Lance Cross" To: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 23:37:27 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Musashi Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net All, Musashi was famous for more than his sword fighting. In his later years he was very wary (and weary!) of duelists that came knocking to learn from him. He manufactured a device that looked like an axe head with a hand grip (sort of like a combination of brass knuckles and an axe head) he kept it in his robes so he could suprise the would be striker. The device by looking at it was to deflect the blade and possibly damage it, also it meant that Musashi could close the gap to a range where long swords were less effective and his "tekken" was most. Another name for it was a Kaiken. What I read about Musashi however true to history, he was always regarded for his abilities and intelligence. When I became a student of the FMA it was to expand my knowledge in the manner which Musashi had found. In my studies of sword fighting of Europe (no expert here) was that many people did not fight two weaponed, with the exclusion of shields in the statement. They often regarded highly of people who could wield two weapons at once. The flourentine (spelling?) was a reference to a famous place (in italy?) where people commonly learned to street fight using two weapons (swords, but unsure if they were the same length) a proper FMA daga was described to me as being "about 20 inches long" with the main sword being only 10 to 12 inches longer. I think historically people of two weapon fighting were the minority, even though Spanish Fencing, Italian Fencing, Filipino Fencing may have been good at it and well known, I think for the people who made various forms of fencing famous there are an equal number of people who may have been much less in ability. Having a weapon in each hand may be, but how well were they used in this manner by the individuals who had them? I found it took a few years to build up my coordination and combat awareness (comfort) before I could strike with some equality with both sides and using two primary weapons seemed to be more difficult as I had started with single weapon / sacrificial hand training, even though the sacrificial hand was also a weapon it was used much more diversely than the main weapon. I suppose this is where you learn, when you adapt to new weapon combinations. It is essential, I have an idea about that many different methods should be studied as Musashi says "this should be investigated thoroughly". Hats off to two weapon fighting. I liked the African Article posted about the short spear / shield combinations and stick training. As for the dart launcher's of the Philippines, other than "pana" what could they be called (want to look up more information) on primitive (yet effective weapons) also could someone explain to me about the term "panabas" which I took as a two handed machete. I looked up the term on the internet and many crime reports came up with incidents of Bolo and Panabas being used to commit serious assaults and murders. Can "panabas" refer to anything but the classical two handed heavy machete? With thanks, -Lance Cross -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/181 - Release Date: 11/24/05 --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:26:40 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Rules used in the SEA Games Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net ... The ArPI sport rules are concerned with the stick techniques of the art, both defensive and offensive. Thus, the full-contact event uses a point system similar to that in kendo and fencing, the SUDDEN DEATH system. The first to hit, scores a point. The first to win five (5) points wins the round. And the one who wins two out of three rounds wins the match. Male participants wear headgear and groin guards, while females must to wear body vests in addition to the helmets. Padded sticks are used since this rule was approved by the Olympic Committee for safety reasons. ś"Live", unpadded sticks are considered injurious and are not allowed by Olympic standards. ArPI adheres to the strict observance of the rules. We also adhere to the strict observance of International Weight Divisions approved by the Olympic Committee. Also, we have Anyo (Creative Form) events with different categories and divisions for solo and group performance, and seven (7) official Weight Divisions for both Men and Women’s Full-Contact Categories. There are separate categories for children, for novices, and for seasoned fighters. Member countries from the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) with their own stick-fighting styles have adopted the ArPI rules and regulations for Sport Arnis in the SEAGames. The practitioners of Silat (Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei), Krabi Krabong (Thailand), Thine (Myanmar), and Viet Vu Dao (Vietnam) have all agreed to this single rule set since the rules favor no particular art. Thus, there is no need to create a new set of rules for the sport. The use or imitation of the ArPI rules without official permission is forbidden. ArPI offers a universally-accepted, non-discriminatory and safe arena for arnis practitioners to display their skills and to test themselves. Therefore, the creation of new, arbritrary, unreliable, and experimental rules which could be detrimental to the image of Sport Arnis and safety of the competitors is not advised. One merely needs to have one's club recognized and affiliated with ArPI in order to access, avail of and practice the official rules of the sport. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest