Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:00:48 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 12 #433 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Bruce Schneier on airline security (Todd Ellner) 2. Clements footage (Marc Denny) 3. Re: Tonfa - Arndt (Arndt Mallepree) 4. Big blades, small blades (Michael Koblic) 5. What is wong with stabbing/cutting a leg ? (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:50:22 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: "Todd Ellner" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Bruce Schneier on airline security Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0512.html The latest issue of Crypto-gram has a number of cogent, interesting articles on the subject. I'm not going to try to summarize them here. None of them is very long. All are worth reading. I particularly like his term "security theater" as opposed to real security. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:14:51 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Clements footage Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Marc: Where might one find this footage? TIA CD > Message: 5 > From: "Marc MacYoung" > > Thing is if you watch tapes of Clements fighting you will quite often see > him MEET the incoming blade edge to edge and THEN flick his blade so the > flat is facing the -- now -- deflected sword. This is NOT the same as , , > , --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Arndt Mallepree" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Tonfa - Arndt Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:32:44 +0100 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Thanks for that! The average cop in Germnay is not allowed to use more then one Tonfa! Giving credits to teachers who gave knowledge is a question of loyality and respect towards the teacher and the the art, so in my eyes a normal thing to do! Take care Arndt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Gow" To: Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 1:34 AM Subject: [Eskrima] Tonfa - Arndt > Arndt, > > The tonfa were originally used against the samurais' sword so a stick is > a little bit less dangerous and does not have the same weight as a sword. > Therefore to answer your question. > > 1. Firstly it would depend on the circumstances. > > 2. The body position of the tonfa person at the time the number one > strike. > > If you were fully aware and within striking distance of the number one > then shouldn't the tonfa person just. > > 1. strike the other person. > > 2. Cuff the shoulder with the held end of the tonfa > > 3 Hit the hand with the tonfa. > > 4. Use a Jut Sao across the other person's hand or forearm depending on > where the strike is coming from. > > 5. Raise the tonfa arm similar to Bil Sao > > 3. Tan da > > 4. Move 45 degrees and do whatever. > > 5. Let the strike go past and then trap. > > Hey if you use these in your teaching be sure to give the credit to the > guys who thought about these movements over 300 years ago - probably some > monks.;-) hahahahaha > > Hope that helps. > > My question to you is does the other person have anything in their other > hand and do you have only one tonfa or two tonfas? As this will make a > big difference! > > Best Regards, > > Peter Gow > > Australia > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:21:26 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Big blades, small blades Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "With Japanese swordsmanship, you don't need to stop a hack, you need to stop from being cut. The length of blade that most FMA moves work around is short enough that you can reach his wrist with your live hand. There's all kinds of blocking, checking and countering being done -- on the guy's wrist and hand with your hand, not your blade." The more I am looking at this, the more it is obvious that fighting with blades over 24 inches or so is a totally different beast to fighting with sticks or smaller blades. The other thing that IMHO changes the techniques cosiderably is the presence or absence of hand guard. "Thing is if you watch tapes of Clements fighting you will quite often see him MEET the incoming blade edge to edge and THEN flick his blade so the flat is facing the -- now -- deflected sword. This is NOT the same as parrying/blocking the incoming blade with the flat." This illustrates the value of video in exposing BS. The grossest example of this is an instructional video on pistol shooting where the instructor with all seriousness insists that you should be able to drop a quarter from and outstretched hand, draw you gun and get a double tap off before the quarter hits the ground. Subsequently he fails miserably to adhere to this standard of performance (reputable shooting instructors would consider completing this task in under 2 seconds a good standard). Michael Koblic, Campbell River, B. C. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:41:05 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] What is wong with stabbing/cutting a leg ? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://user21165.websitewizard.com/files/unprotected/GRAPKNIFE.mov --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest