Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 03:01:14 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #14 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2300 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: white belt beats black belt (Ray) (ASC) 2. Re: white belt beats black belt (Ray) (ASC) 3. Re: The color of a belt (bgdebuque) 4. Rocky's revenge and a tangent (Marc Denny) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:37:05 +1100 From: ASC To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] white belt beats black belt (Ray) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net He did, compete against Black belts. just that he himself was wearing white Ed Lam wrote: >Wasn't Penn a very accomplished wrestler before he even started BJJ? Why would it be a surprise that he did well in a Judo tournament? An experienced wrestler with some submission coaching SHOULD do well. > >In any contact sport, the skills from similar sports are carried over. A good college wrestler should fight in the black belt division in Judo, assuming that he is familar with the rules. To have an experienced grappler fight in the while belt diviision is to ask to have a lot of injured white belts. >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:40:05 +1100 From: ASC To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] white belt beats black belt (Ray) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I can vouch for this.. i have only been to one comp ever in my life. i was doing karate then, fought against a black belter (got his belt just under 2years). I was on green belt then (trained 4yrs) my instructor was strick on handing out belts. he wanted us to work hard for it.. about 1 belt per 1-1.5years... don't worry.. we weren't paying more than $30 per month and had only 20 students, max he wouldn't take any more than 20. Ken Borowiec wrote: >This just proves to me that on many levels belts don't mean much >compared to what one knows. > >Ken >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:15:20 -0500 From: bgdebuque To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] The color of a belt Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "First Bravery; second Power; and third, Gongfu." -Chinese martial arts saying Message: 1 > From: "Gerry Chenevert" > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 02:25:33 -0500 > Subject: [Eskrima] The color of a belt > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > This discussion proves that a belt isreally for knowing your place > within your system/style/school. When you step out of your training hall > and enter the great wide world, your skill and will determineyour > rankin a violent encounter.Now I'm not knockingthe ranking systems, > it's just that there's no way to standardize them across the span ofthe > martial arts.Some styles are just better than others, and produce > better rounded and more skilled fighters. Then there's the individual's > physical attributes and his will. In all, blackbeltsfrom two different > schools are like apples and oranges.Thinking you're a badass blackbelt > can be a deadly assumption. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:55:11 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Rocky's revenge and a tangent Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: Before Rocky spots his chance to revenge himself for my teasings about his grammar, I note that > Sorry to nitpick, but there are a plethora of belts in boxing. > should read "there IS a plethora etc" > You know the kind of belts I was talking about, although yes I too think > that having 16 World Heavyweight Champions (or whatever the number > currently > sits at) is a total farce. The current so-called 'Heavyweight Champions', > in > particular, could do worse than sit and watch some of the old-timers from > a > generation or two back. Take a look and compare any of the Ali -v- > Frasier, > or Foreman, etc., and tell me who from nowadays could have lived with > them? > > Re: Don King, money-wise he still lives and has lived better than most of > us, but I wouldn't change places with him for all the money in the world. > > > Pugil Small story: I met Don King once when I was the Assistant Stage Manager for the Douglas v. Holyfield Heavyweight Championship fight. INTENSE energy when one looks him right in the eye. Having been taught by Top Dog who is a true master at it, I was into handreading at the time (mostly as a way to pick up girls) and I got to read his DK's hand briefly during the dress rehearsal the night before the fight. Strong animal drive, very short headline i.e. clearly focused on one thing-- in his case, money. Long pinky too (archetype of Hermes/Mercury, god of diplomacy and liars amongst his many credentials) , , , no surprise there ;-) I got to read several fighters who were there as well: Julio Cesar Chavez, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns and others , , , but I digress. Crafty Dog > > -- __--__-- > > Message: 8 > From: Kes41355@aol.com > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:45:25 EST > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Subject: [Eskrima] Crafty's comments > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Hi Marc, > You're not being a smart*ss, just honest. I'm an ex-boxer, and a former > huge boxing fan...until it started looking way too much like the WWE. > The days > of the greats like Sugar Ray Robinson are gone, replaced by a sport that > has > more world champions than you can shake a stick at. I just stick to > watching > the amateurs these days, much more exciting. > > Kim Satterfield > > In a message dated 1/13/2006 6:26:26 AM US Eastern Standard Time, > eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > > Woof All: > > Pugil wrote: > > "That's why I like Boxing... no belts, no crap, just winners and losers!" > > Sorry to nitpick, but there are a plethora of belts in boxing. It seems > like every card has a championship belt at stake, even if its of South > Bumf*ck, Nowhere :-) As for crap, does the name Don King mean ring a > bell? > > just being a smart*ss, > Crafty Dog > > -- __--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:33:42 +1100 > From: ASC > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] mastering all fields in martial arts > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > our fees are $80 for one art > $120 for 2arts > $150 for all... (tae kwon do, hapkido, bjj, weaponry) > > Steve Ames wrote: > >>"Today, the school is training 200 students, each paying $200 a month." >>Ummm... just out of curiosity is $200 typical? I don't pay anywhere close >>to >>that and am wondering if I just have it good? >> >>Ray wrote: >> >> >>>YEARNING to be home... but can't just yet >>>Manila Standard Today - Philippines >>> >>>... After mastering all fields in martial arts, he decided to teach >>>Tae Kwon Do, Korean Tang Soo Do, Combat Hapkido, Karate, and >>>Philippine Martial Arts that ... >>> >>>http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=goodLife02_jan13_2006 >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members >>>Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >>>Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >>>Standard disclaimers apply >>>http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members >>Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >>Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >>Standard disclaimers apply >>http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > > > -- __--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > http://eskrima-fma.net > Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima > > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com > Standard disclaimers apply. > Remember September 11. > > End of Eskrima Digest --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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