Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:01:14 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #26 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: East Bay Area Eskrima (Sonny Napial) 2. Re: Curved Sticks (Todd Ellner) 3. Re: Logic vs. Reality (Todd Ellner) 4. Rambling Ruminations clip (Marc Denny) 5. East Bay Eskrima (Argyll -) 6. Sword fighting (Ray) 7. most likely attack? (James Wilson) 8. silat videoclip (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:19:08 -0800 (PST) From: Sonny Napial Subject: Re: [Eskrima] East Bay Area Eskrima To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I am teaching in Hayward Calif. Just down the freeway from Oakland. The school is Bandalan Doce Pares Eskrima. Please see our website at http://www.bandalan.com for more details. Best Regards, Master Sonny Napial Chief Instructor / BDP WEKAF Western Regional Director --- SiliIrishman@aol.com wrote: > Hi all, > I,m re-locating to Oakland in San francisco at the > end of the month and would > like to find any Arnis/Escrima groups that I could > train with, I would really > appreciate any help that would point me in the right > direction, also does any > one out there have any info on the Llanera > Escrima/Saykan system, > thanks J. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:21:42 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: "Todd Ellner" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Curved Sticks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Jose writes: >>Tongkat Soempat that were hand made by Pak Victor, which I treasure. >>There is a great deal of wonderful technique in this ferocious art! >>Guro Andrew Astle >Tongkat and Soempat. These two words seem closely similar to two Tagalog words with similar >meanings. Tungkod for cane and Sumpa for swear/curse. Can anyone verify this? Don't know about Soempat/Sumpa, but a Tongkat is a carrier, a stick used to carry buckets or bundles. It wouldn't be terribly surprising to find they shared a common origin. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:42:48 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: "Todd Ellner" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Logic vs. Reality Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net [Marc writes many True Things] ..or to put it simply... 1) Knives are great for seriously harming you, but not great at causing the right sort of trauma to stop you immediately. But having one sure beats screaming for help. 2) Handguns aren't, either. 3) Rifles have some serious authority (although I have seen deer go for a long way after a perfect behind-the-shoulder shot before realizing they were dead). 4) Someone who really wants to hurt you is scary. Someone who doesn't care what happens to him as long as he gets you is truly terrifying. When someone is terrified he may act irrationally and do things outside the bounds of pure legal self defense. To which I say. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. With the proviso that you can only prepare, never know, so you just have to do the best you can without too much second-guessing or agonizing about how you aren't a Real S7R337 Warrior(tm). Educate yourself about the odds, construct your self defense plans accordingly, train hard so you have something useful to pull out in an emergency. And then, frankly, don't worry about it. At some point you just have to give your ass to Jesus and jump into the Void. "Relax and enjoy" as my teacher's teacher says. I've seen people lose their training in emergencies. I've also been amazed at how things you'd swear they forgot came out. The sprawl I learned in junior high wrestling comes out without thinking even though it's been decades since I practiced it. Same with the first aid. Todd --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:21:34 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Rambling Ruminations clip Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: A new clip is up at www.dogbrothers.com titled "Rambling Ruminations". 9 minutes long, all talk, no action-- from my recent joint seminar with Gabe Suarez. Woof, Crafty Dog --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Argyll -" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:43:50 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] East Bay Eskrima Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SiliIrishman@aol.com > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:25:59 EST > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Subject: [Eskrima] (no subject) > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Hi all, > I,m re-locating to Oakland in San francisco at the end of the month and would > like to find any Arnis/Escrima groups that I could train with, I would really > appreciate any help that would point me in the right direction, also does any > one out there have any info on the Llanera Escrima/Saykan system, > thanks J. > > -- __--__-- > There are silat and escrima classes in Berkeley offered at http://www.stillnessinmotion.com/calendar.shtml Further afield there are several options in nearby Contra Costa County including a Serrada Class in Pleasant Hill http://www.stickman-escrima.com/Teaching.htm and Valencia LAMECO Eskrima in Concord http://www.mdi.cmasdirect.com/site/view/ValenciaLamecoEskrima.pml No doubt there are others as well. Best regards, Argyll -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Sword fighting Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Forwarding... The International Swordfighting and Martial Arts Convention continues to grow as we enter into our 7th year of bringing together the finest instructors from around the world! After making some exciting new additions the web site is up at: http://artofcombat.org/public/thespis/Convention/aocflyer.htm This year will have all the wonderful opportunities that we offered last year as well as some new experiences planned, making it the workshop not to be missed! It will be held in Lansing, Michigan on the first weekend of August as always. This year we are adding a 4th day to the workshop, so ISMAC will be running August 3rd to the 6th. - AMAZING VARIETY OF CLASSES with over 60 classes during the four days, the most opportunity at a WMA workshop. ISMAC lets you choose how in depth you want to study; you can take 6 different 1.5 hour classes per day to get a taste of a variety of weapons or focus all your energy into one area with a 9 hour Master Class Block and every combination in between. - ALL SKILL LEVELS will find great classes catered to your abilities. As you saw last year, there are now 5 classes per time slot to choose from all weekend! These are broken up into two blocks of regular classes running concurrently with two blocks of 3 hour master classes and a block of 4 hour Maestro classes. Check the website to see how last years schedule was laid out. This will give you an idea of the great variety of classes that will be offered. You will also find descriptions of each type of class you can take. -MASTER CLASS BLOCKS give you the opportunity to take 3 master classes in a row that all share a common theme so you are working on the same principle all day. Last year saw blocks concentrating on Leverage in the early Italian School, Fuhlen in the German School and Defense in Italian Rapier play. Look for some exciting new blocks this year. - PRIVATE LESSONS with the instructors will be offered again. These were offered at ISMAC 2003 for the first time at any WMA workshop and they were a huge success, so we are excited to continue offering this opportunity for personal one on one training. - TOURNAMENTS. We will once again have a Rapier/Smallsword tournament on Saturday night and a Singlestick tournament on Sunday. On Friday night we will be adding a KNIFE tournament for the first time, which will be sponsored and run by Raven Arts Academy. More details will be posted on the website soon. - DEMOS AND PRESENTATIONS will happen during the lunch breaks everyday. If you are a serious Western Martial Artist, then ISMAC is the place for you. We work hard all day and play harder every night. Come share in the fun of the infamous statue and try one of Lansings famous pig sandwiches while learning tons about Western Martial Arts! --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:44:15 -0600 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: James Wilson Subject: [Eskrima] most likely attack? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I live in what's left of New Orleans, and was having a discussion with a friend who is a LEO. He and another LEO I know have said that all of the Hispanic migrant worker/day laborers that they've encountere always have a knife on them. They didn't say what kind of knife, but I'm assuming a folder or work knife. I'm assuming most of these knives are being used as "work tools" for the most part and as weapons secondarily. This a new community to the New Orleans area, and there's quite a culture clash going on right now. Since these are generally work knives I'm guessing that most attacks would be slash oriented and not thrust oriented. My reasoning is if you use a knife to cut something (using it as a tool), you generally think of using it in the edge modality and not thrusting modality, because that's how you use it most of the time. Now I know there is a bit of a knife culture in the Hispanic world, but I don't think these guys actually practice or train in any way. My friend wanted to know if anyone has had any experience dealing with this community and what kind of attacks are "typical" and what he could expect in encounters. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, James -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:40:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] silat videoclip Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net FWIW... http://www.mubai.cc/silatmubai-introvid.WMV Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest