Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 03:01:27 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #40 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2300 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: please advise (RJ Garcia) 2. Sa. kniffings (Bandile Dlabantu) 3. War Flag posted at Eskrima School (Lawrence, Marc J.) 4. Re: Knifings in South Africa (Todd Ellner) 5. RE: Dan Anderson Modern Arnis/Karate UK Tour (Danny Anderson) 6. Jacksonville, FL--Garimot Seminar (sam deGalicia) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 06:17:26 +0000 (GMT) From: RJ Garcia Subject: Re: [Eskrima] please advise To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net On normal occasions, the blue section should always be displayed above the red section when displaying the flag in a horizontal position; or with the blue section on the left side and the red section on the right side (these, from the pov of the viewer) when displaying the flag in a vertical position. Only in times when the nation is in state of war should the flag be displayed with the colors having reversed positions than what is stated above. This is what's taught in elementary school here in the PH, and I think it's also what is written in the Philippine constitution. Probably, FMA organizations reverse the orientation of the colors to show the war oriented nature or roots of their art/style/organization. Maybe it's best to ask these groups why they display the flag as such. Personally, however, I think it's improper. RJ Garcia Quezon City --- ken spartan wrote: > have been practicing FMA skills here in Cebu City > Philippines, where my techniques are predominantly > Kali(blade-based) plus training with other different > stickfighting orgs here...the folks here are > unassuming but some know FMA without joining a club > and unless you ask them to demonstrate and show > interest then they gladly teach you the art, mostly > old individuals who in one way or another have kept > an art to him/herself..that is how i and a couple of > others get knowledge and practice..was curious when > i saw a demo with the room half painted in red at > the left, and blue to the right if a viewer faces > the scene...then of course the Philippine flag > displayed vertically to some groups, again the red > color to the left, then the blue to the right, as a > viewer faces the scene too..i guess this also > follows suit to other gyms, dojos or whatchmacallit > in other FMA groups in other countries? For sure a > Philippine flag would be displayed as the country > where the art originated...may i ask my > countrymen out there if they have any idea why is > this positioned so? when I was undergoing military > training in college here i was oriented that the > blue color, which symbolized peace was placed at the > left of the viewer and the red color to the right if > the flag is hung vertically, in contrast with FMA's > own where the flag is displayed mostly the other way > around and seen some videoclips from other countries > carry the Phil flag this way..or maybe this is just > the way it is or sum special something is meant as > the red color of our flag means courage and bravery > in times of war..no big deal, just curious. anybody > who can give advice? thanks and Mabuhay > > respects, > Ken Alenton > Cebu City Rodolfo Jay L. Garcia Jr. ____________________________ 4 BS Computer Science, Ateneo de Manila University +639175267737 scythe_rj@yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:26:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Bandile Dlabantu To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Sa. kniffings Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Lauren I had forgotten about the old bicycle spoke, it is my worst fear. Included are the bottle neck and pik handle. With a bike spoke you wont know that you've been had until you collapse. It is normally hidden in a newspaper or jacket sleeve. I didn't know East Coast guys used it. I though it was only us Kaapeners . The bottle neck wounds are hard to clean and stich up and are normaly on the face. Normaly as a marker or reminder that one messed with the wrong Charo. Amok guys from what I have seen on TV do a lot of interesting drills and carry a whole lot of weapons. Message: 2 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:35:57 +0200 From: "Lawrence Puren" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Knifings in South Africa. Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Lawrence Puren [mailto:LawrenceP@hcandg.co.za] Sent: 01 February 2006 14:26 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: Knifings in South Africa Living in S.Africa I must confirm Bandile's comments about the knifings which we have to live with. Every day especially over weekends stabbings have become common due to social problems plaguing the country. The most common form of attack is a series of rapid forward stabbing movements toward the neck or heart of the victim which is very effective and not always that easy to parry especially if the attack is driven by strong intention or purpose to take u out. In most cases u will not see the attack coming .Another favourite is to carry a bicycle spoke in a packet and as the intended victim walks past the aggressor will suddenly plunge this into the victims heart right thru the packet, thereafter robbing him . We have a small Amok training group here who practice drills and sparring using these types of attacks with S.African scenarios which we have to live with .Most of our group carry about 3 knifes gun and some in addition to this an asp baton as well for real peace of mind and good security. The legal implications are not lost to us. Developing knife skills does certainly give one the edge ,however there are still no guarantees. Regards, Lawrence Puren. [ Durban, South Africa ] This email and all content are subject to the following disclaimer: "http://www.hollard.co.za/legal/disclaimer.htm" -- __--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:05:48 -0800 From: "Lawrence, Marc J." To: Subject: [Eskrima] War Flag posted at Eskrima School Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ken, When the flag is turned that way is the war flag. This goes back to 1890's war. That would be a correct for a school. You assumption was correct. Mabuhay, Marc South Bay --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 07:56:45 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: "Todd Ellner" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Knifings in South Africa Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The bicycle spoke that Lawrence talks about puts me in mind of my father's internship in Chicago. The favored method of gangland killing was with an icepick. Summer or winter, light shirts or heavy coats it was always the same. One icepick in the same intercostal space penetrating the aorta. Tricky shot, that. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Danny Anderson" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 23:16:28 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Dan Anderson Modern Arnis/Karate UK Tour Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dan Anderson UK Modern Arnis/Karate Tour I wanted to let you all know of the dates of this March's UK tour. # London Seminars: Modern Arnis # 19th March 2006 Contact: Darren Davies, CSSD/SC UK Director, 26 Elm Terrace, Harrow, Middlesex, HA3 6HW Phone: 02088639886 / Email: darren@cssdsc.co.uk # Cumbria Seminar: Kata Bunkai & Sparring # 25 March 2006 (Carlisle) Contact: Iain Abernethy, c/o NETH Publishing, PO Box 38, Cockermouth, Cumbria, CA13 0GS Phone: 01900829406 / Email: iain@iainabernethy.com # Edinburgh Seminar: Arnis Drills & Tactics for Sparring # 26 March 2006 Contact: Gerard O’Dea, 13/7 Caledonian Place, Edinburgh, EH11 2AW. Phone: 07768182441 (evenings) Email: godea@blueyonder.co.uk After the London seminar I will be up in Newcastle at Bill Lowery's school on Tuesday for an in-house gig.  Bill is a constant contributer to Eskrima Digest and after seeing this, he'll post details of that seminar. I will be bringing CD ROM ebooks of the different karate and Modern Arnis books I have written.  For a complete list of these you can visit my website at www.danandersonkarate.com.  If anyone has any questions about the seminars you can contact the email addresses above or contact me directly. Yours, Dan Anderson --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 21:57:47 -0800 (PST) From: sam deGalicia To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Jacksonville, FL--Garimot Seminar Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net World Martial Arts will host an FMA seminar featuring Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet on Feb. 25, 2006 from 10:00am-5:00pm. Gat Puno Abon will teach the following: Harimaw Buno Hilot Largo Mano Cost: $50 To be held at: World Martial Arts 2375 St. Johns Blvd. Suite 304 Jacksonville Florida 32246 904.642.3150 www.worldmartialartsjax.com Contact: Sam deGalicia at 904.881.4300 or sdegalicia@yahoo.com Thank you. --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest