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RE: article. cardinal rules of combat (Sonny Padilla) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "m0rdant" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Instructor Testing Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 07:04:52 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net One of the things I like about Savate is that there are separate tests and ranks for instructors. You can achieve a Silver Glove (highest technical rank) and still have no rank as an instructor. Being able to perform a technique does not mean you can teach it well to others. They also have a separate ranking system for those who compete. Just because you can fight and win doesn't necessarily mean you have good technical skill, or the ability to teach. You can also have highly ranked teachers in Savate who do not have competition rank. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 06:15:10 -0800 (PST) From: david foggie Subject: [Eskrima] GM Roland Dante Seminar In Melbourne, Australia To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Would just like to inform anyone in Melbourne, Australia who may be interested GM Roland Dantes will be conducting another of his monthly seminars here on Sunday 5th March 2006. The venue is Malvern Martial Arts 1291 Malvern Road, Malvern from 11am-3pm. The seminar will cover single stick/sword, double stick, knife, empty hands and other areas of FMA. Everyone is welcome regardless of experience and/or affiliation. If anyone has any questions they can contact me xsagasa@yahoo.com Thank you. David --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:42:54 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma To: MartialArtsTalk@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Eskrima] article. cardinal rules of combat Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The following article is based on the principles and techniques taught in the Armed and Dangerous Knife Defense DVD series. It is intended to give a brief overview of the central tenet of knife combat for the experienced martial artist. --------------------------------- Combat's Cardinal Rule by Hanho Sang H. Kim Many years have passed since I survived dozens of missions as a special agent while serving in the Korean military. Many missions involved combat, both with weapons and with fists. A few members of my elite 202 unit survived, many never made it. Looking back, I find something valuable for my friends who couldn't make it at the time. In the Academy for Special Agents at Jeong-Neung, Korea, my combat instructor T.K. Kim used to scream at us during the grueling knife-fighting training sessions, "Do not run away from your opponent, get closer to him! Dissolve the knife in your head!" I remember that most of my comrades who tried to run away from their enemies got killed. Those who got injured by choosing to stay closer, by following T.K. Kim's instruction, survived. The cardinal rule of combat, whether against a knife or an empty-handed adversary is "Stay close to your opponent!" Especially when your opponent is armed with a knife, there is often no way out but to stay close and fight. The keys for surviving in close quarters combat against a knife are: First, read the intent of your enemy. In combat, the enemy has only one motive, to eliminate you and obtain his objective. This often made the first assessment for me simple - there was not option to escape or placate my attackers. In civilian life, however, you must read your attackers intentions. Assess what he wants from you: your money, your car, your pride, your honor, your life - assailants have many motives for attacking their victims. If you can buy your way out of a situation, whether through material possessions or your wits, this is your best option. Do not hesitate to give the attacker if he wants if it means he will spare you injury. Second, assess the intensity of his hostility. Try to determine if your attacker means to hurt you or to kill you; if he will be satisfied by getting what he wants or if he is bent on violence for the sake of violence. Many times you might find yourself faced with an assailant that has no mercy and is bent on inflicting pain no matter how you respond to his demands. If you cannot escape and your attacker is intent on hurting you, you have no choice but to fight back with all your might. Third, acknowledge that you will get hurt. Once you commit to a defense against a knife-wielding attacker, you must accept that you will get hurt. Without overcoming this psychological hurdle, you cannot hope to survive. Accepting that you will get hurt, allows you let go of the notion that you must defend yourself perfectly. There is no perfect defense against a knife. Things will not go as you planned or practiced. You must be prepared to respond without prejudice or preconceptions, something you cannot due if you cling to the notion of a perfect defense. Fourth, do not try to intercept the knife. Focusing on the knife is the most deadly mistake you can make. The knife is simply an inanimate object. You place your focus on the stopping your attacker, not the inanimate object in his hand. Fifth, attack the forearm, shoulders, neck, and head. To defeat the knife, you must attack the limbs or if possible the intelligence that is controlling it. The most practical initial attack will be to the attacker's forearm (of the armed hand). The second most practical attack will be to upper arm or shoulder. Both of these targets will allow you to gain partial control of the knife wielding hand or at least to momentarily divert the attack. Your final goal should be an attack to the neck or head of the assailant to either control his body or render him unconscious. Sixth, cut in to the side or rear of the enemy. To attack the head or neck, you must bypass the knife. To do this you have to divert the attack with a looping, deflecting, parrying or cutting technique. Once past the knife, you should always move to the side or rear to take the attacker's balance and keep the knife as far from your body as possible. This is the stage where staying close becomes essential. Once you establish contact with the assailant's body, you have to stick to him like glue. Any space between you and your attacker works to his advantage, giving him space to maneuver the knife or take your balance. Seventh, destroy the central senses of the opponent. When you are in close, you should have access to the assailant's head or neck to apply a finishing technique. In combat, this is often a killing technique, using the assailant's weapon against him. For civilian's a lock, choke, or immobilization technique is suitable until help arrives. Simply put, to annihilate the opponent's intention to use the knife to kill you is the best tactic. When this first option is not possible, the second is to destroy the functionality of the weapon in the assailant's hand by attacking the forearm, shoulders, head or neck. In order to achieve this goal, you must stay close to get the chance to break into the enemy's vulnerability during the split second movement of the opponent's cutting or thrusting attack. When you retreat, you give your assailant space to advance continuously and drive you into the fatal psychological corner that magnifies your fear and desperation. --------------------------------- The above article is copyrighted by the author. All rights reserved. --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:25:04 +0000 (GMT) From: michael george To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] white belt to black (how long should it take????) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net conserning time frame to how long it takes to become instructor or black belt...... this depends on many things........ student#when a student asks how long until i can be black belt or know the material etc. teacher# 3 to 4 years minimum (yes maybe if the student only practice's in the class and taught the the bare minimum per session) this is a common answer by many style of martial arts. (but not true) ofcourse this is my opinion, and how i conduct and teach (so please dont be offended), (a student who shows the commitment and heart can become very good with in weeks if the time and effort is given) ofcourse this would cost them some money for private lesson but the result are very great. and another factor to the students progression is the teacher who holds back......teaches very little in the class. when i myself teach i hold nothing back from the student.......and there is no special black belt techniques only techniques they have not yet know.......but will learn from day 1. this is not the best way to make the matertial last for years on end i know!!! but i am a true believer that the filipino martial arts, and this is a warrior art, so the student should be able to learn and apply in a short amount of time. i look forward to anyones thoughts, conserning my methods and ideas, am i alone on this? miguel (beast) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:27:31 -0500 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Michael Gallagher Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Police comments Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net At 07:44 PM 2/28/2006, you wrote: > From one of my LEO students... > > >The following 15 Police comments were taken off of actual cop car videos >around the country. LOL!! That was funny. I've passed it on to my best friend, a priest who had wanted to be a cop. :) (He's in the NRA, too; I don't think anyone would steal from his collection plate!) :) --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] white belt to black (how long should it take????) To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 09:38:08 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > conserning time frame to how long it takes to become instructor or black belt. Time to black belt and time to instructor are not the same thing, right? The time required to make black belt is far less than the time required to become an instructor. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:13:43 -0500 From: chrisamendola@aol.com To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Anybody in Houston? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello All, Been a long-time lurker here, probably 2 years. I enjoy alot of what I read on this list and I really never feel I have anything to add. Anyway I just wanted to ask if anybody on the list lives in Houston, where I am. Secondly, if you did live here would you be interested in 'learning' Serrada escrima from a *student* looking for a practice partner? I have been practicing solo for a while now to get my muscle memory back, and have reached a point where a live partner is required. To be blunt, I am nobody, with no rank, and I am an average practictioner. I do feel however I am a good teacher, and am getting on track to become 'certified'. I had learned all my 'basics' for Serrada, and have many of my privates on tape to refer back to. I just really need someone to train with. All by Myself, Chris Amendola --__--__-- Message: 8 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Anybody in San Antonio Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:32:50 -0500 From: "Ken Borowiec" To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net My nephew is interested in eskrima and JKD but he lives in San Antonio Tx. Does anyone know of a school that teaches both or either art? Also BJJ and Muay Thai if anyone has the info. Thank you for your help, Ken --__--__-- Message: 9 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Anybody in San Antonio Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:08:35 -0600 From: "Valadez Brian" To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Gallardos martial arts in SaN Antonio teaches arnis and kickboxing with grappling he is located in kirby . -----Original Message----- From: Ken Borowiec [mailto:KBorowiec@rudolphresearch.com] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:33 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Anybody in San Antonio My nephew is interested in eskrima and JKD but he lives in San Antonio Tx. Does anyone know of a school that teaches both or either art? Also BJJ and Muay Thai if anyone has the info. Thank you for your help, Ken _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:03:08 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Arola Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Anybody in Houston? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Im not in Houston now (currently in NC) but when I do ever come back for a while, you can count me in. I never had any formal experience of learning Serrada Escrima(except maybe what's in the Inosanto blend, but would that really count?), I'll be in touch before then, Ingat! Daniel Arola http://www.myspace.com/danielarola chrisamendola@aol.com wrote: Hello All, Been a long-time lurker here, probably 2 years. I enjoy alot of what I read on this list and I really never feel I have anything to add. Anyway I just wanted to ask if anybody on the list lives in Houston, where I am. Secondly, if you did live here would you be interested in 'learning' Serrada escrima from a *student* looking for a practice partner? I have been practicing solo for a while now to get my muscle memory back, and have reached a point where a live partner is required. To be blunt, I am nobody, with no rank, and I am an average practictioner. I do feel however I am a good teacher, and am getting on track to become 'certified'. I had learned all my 'basics' for Serrada, and have many of my privates on tape to refer back to. I just really need someone to train with. All by Myself, Chris Amendola _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. --__--__-- Message: 11 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Anybody in San Antonio Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:46:00 -0500 From: "Ken Borowiec" To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Thank You. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Valadez Brian [mailto:Brain.Valadez@MHShealth.com] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:09 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Anybody in San Antonio Gallardos martial arts in SaN Antonio teaches arnis and kickboxing with grappling he is located in kirby . --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:58:21 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Instruction and Instructors Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "Med schools across the country espouse this system of teaching. Watch one, do one, teach one is the order of the day for the surgeon that just fixed your torn tendon." Things have not changed then? This just confirms my impression that FMA is damn sight harder than medicine. Well, harder than surgery, anyway :-) Michael Koblic, Campbell River, B. C. --__--__-- Message: 13 From: "Sonny Padilla" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] article. cardinal rules of combat Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:52:58 -0700 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Like it very much and agree with all the information. Sonny >From: Jye nigma >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >To: MartialArtsTalk@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Eskrima] article. cardinal rules of combat >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:42:54 -0800 (PST) > >The following article is based on the principles and techniques taught in >the Armed and Dangerous Knife Defense DVD series. It is intended to give a >brief overview of the central tenet of knife combat for the experienced >martial artist. > >--------------------------------- > > Combat's Cardinal Rule > by Hanho Sang H. Kim > Many years have passed since I survived dozens of missions as a special >agent while serving in the Korean military. Many missions involved combat, >both with weapons and with fists. A few members of my elite 202 unit >survived, many never made it. > Looking back, I find something valuable for my friends who couldn't make >it at the time. In the Academy for Special Agents at Jeong-Neung, Korea, my >combat instructor T.K. Kim used to scream at us during the grueling >knife-fighting training sessions, "Do not run away from your opponent, get >closer to him! Dissolve the knife in your head!" I remember that most of my >comrades who tried to run away from their enemies got killed. Those who got >injured by choosing to stay closer, by following T.K. Kim's instruction, >survived. > The cardinal rule of combat, whether against a knife or an empty-handed >adversary is "Stay close to your opponent!" Especially when your opponent >is armed with a knife, there is often no way out but to stay close and >fight. The keys for surviving in close quarters combat against a knife are: > First, read the intent of your enemy. In combat, the enemy has only one >motive, to eliminate you and obtain his objective. This often made the >first assessment for me simple - there was not option to escape or placate >my attackers. In civilian life, however, you must read your attackers >intentions. Assess what he wants from you: your money, your car, your >pride, your honor, your life - assailants have many motives for attacking >their victims. If you can buy your way out of a situation, whether through >material possessions or your wits, this is your best option. Do not >hesitate to give the attacker if he wants if it means he will spare you >injury. > Second, assess the intensity of his hostility. Try to determine if your >attacker means to hurt you or to kill you; if he will be satisfied by >getting what he wants or if he is bent on violence for the sake of >violence. Many times you might find yourself faced with an assailant that >has no mercy and is bent on inflicting pain no matter how you respond to >his demands. If you cannot escape and your attacker is intent on hurting >you, you have no choice but to fight back with all your might. > Third, acknowledge that you will get hurt. Once you commit to a defense >against a knife-wielding attacker, you must accept that you will get hurt. >Without overcoming this psychological hurdle, you cannot hope to survive. >Accepting that you will get hurt, allows you let go of the notion that you >must defend yourself perfectly. There is no perfect defense against a >knife. Things will not go as you planned or practiced. You must be prepared >to respond without prejudice or preconceptions, something you cannot due if >you cling to the notion of a perfect defense. > Fourth, do not try to intercept the knife. Focusing on the knife is the >most deadly mistake you can make. The knife is simply an inanimate object. >You place your focus on the stopping your attacker, not the inanimate >object in his hand. > Fifth, attack the forearm, shoulders, neck, and head. To defeat the >knife, you must attack the limbs or if possible the intelligence that is >controlling it. The most practical initial attack will be to the attacker's >forearm (of the armed hand). The second most practical attack will be to >upper arm or shoulder. Both of these targets will allow you to gain partial >control of the knife wielding hand or at least to momentarily divert the >attack. Your final goal should be an attack to the neck or head of the >assailant to either control his body or render him unconscious. > Sixth, cut in to the side or rear of the enemy. To attack the head or >neck, you must bypass the knife. To do this you have to divert the attack >with a looping, deflecting, parrying or cutting technique. Once past the >knife, you should always move to the side or rear to take the attacker's >balance and keep the knife as far from your body as possible. This is the >stage where staying close becomes essential. Once you establish contact >with the assailant's body, you have to stick to him like glue. Any space >between you and your attacker works to his advantage, giving him space to >maneuver the knife or take your balance. > Seventh, destroy the central senses of the opponent. When you are in >close, you should have access to the assailant's head or neck to apply a >finishing technique. In combat, this is often a killing technique, using >the assailant's weapon against him. For civilian's a lock, choke, or >immobilization technique is suitable until help arrives. > Simply put, to annihilate the opponent's intention to use the knife to >kill you is the best tactic. When this first option is not possible, the >second is to destroy the functionality of the weapon in the assailant's >hand by attacking the forearm, shoulders, head or neck. In order to achieve >this goal, you must stay close to get the chance to break into the enemy's >vulnerability during the split second movement of the opponent's cutting or >thrusting attack. When you retreat, you give your assailant space to >advance continuously and drive you into the fatal psychological corner that >magnifies your fear and desperation. > >--------------------------------- > > The above article is copyrighted by the author. All rights reserved. > > >--------------------------------- >Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest