Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:01:28 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #75 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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(Dave Wong) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 00:46:48 -0800 (PST) From: jay de leon To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Kickboxing Champion Howard Jackson Passes Away Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Kickboxing Champion Howard Jackson passed away March 7, 2006 11:00AM Tuesday morning, at the City of Hope hospital in Duarte, CA. He will be cremated and a memorial service will be held in Los Angeles in approximately two weeks. Howard Jackson had been battling leukemia the past several years. I had the good fortune of meeting and hanging out with him in a couple of WorldBlackBelt events, and I found him to be a very caring, easygoing gentleman. He will be greatly missed by the martial arts community and many of his friends. For more details, go to http://www.worldblackbelt.com . Jay de Leon --__--__-- Message: 2 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Mills_Onellion@Dom.com Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 06:25:52 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #74 - 10 msgs, instructors in Norfolk, Va Beach area Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net There are a few in Norfolk and Virginia Beach area as well as Chesapeake. Mr. Mateo is very good. I also teach, but privately. If interested my number is 757 424 7634. There are several others but have lost contact, I could find them if you wish. Mills Onellion, Cielo y Tierra Arnis de Mano ----------------------------------------- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains information which may be legally confidential and/or privileged and does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional express written confirmation to that effect. The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Peter Lewis" To: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:22:22 -0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Bakbakan Kali Ilustrisimo UK Workshop - Master Rey Galang Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mabuhay The full details of the Bakbakan Kali Ilustrisimo Workshop with Master Rey Galang are: 20 May 2006 - 11am to 4pm Wyre Forest Glades Leisure Centre, Kidderminster Cost: £50.00 per participant This is a pre-book only event. Please email peter@zubu-kali.co.uk to reserve a place on this very popular workshop. Booking by no later than 30 April 2006. Gumagalang Peter www.bakbakan.com www.yuli-romo.com www.zubu-kali.co.uk --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:24:24 -0600 From: "Van Harn, Steve" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: padded gear Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "junk" wrote: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] padded gear Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 00:02:55 -0500 "I am only through my first few months of training and came to pretty much the same conclusion after watching my first competition under wekaf rules. Defense seemed to be pretty much ignored with all the gear on. It also seemed to me that regularly sparring with that mindset could possibly create very bad habits; the kind that I certainly would not want to have surface in a survival situation." Careful of generalizations. Remember WEKAF is a sport aspect, not survival. Just because defense was not displayed does not mean the fighters don't possess it. Besides, the rules dictate the action. A lack of defense can be negatively scored however the rules state "greatest # of effective hits". The competitor is going to adapt to what will win. It is a competitive sport. And not all fighters show a lack of defense while winning. The better fighters will do both. Be advised, in a full out one minute round, you WILL get hit. Simply because you do, doesn't mean you didn't have defense. The sheer number and speed of strikes bear that out. And even though you are padded, you can get hurt because there is no holding back, and you will learn from that pain. In the early days I got pretty damaged in events, now that rarely happens. I am primarily a defensive fighter (duh) and unfortunately have lost matches as a result. But so be it, I'll keep my defense. At the most recent Nationals one competitor put on what amounted to a blocking seminar during one match. Why? His checking hand was broken and splinted. Basically he blocked every single full speed combo that came near him until he could close, arm check and score points with his good hand. Constantly for three rounds. And the height and reach difference was also very substantial. Absolutely brilliant! As has been stated here in the past, WEKAF and padded sparring are yet another training tool to round out your training. Padded stick/no gear is another as well as Dog Brothers Gatherings. How often do you go full contact with an opponent who is not a friend, not cooperative and honestly wants to inflict some pain? With padding and without, you'll learn a lot. As an avenue of discovery, padded you can at least do several times a week rather than wait for the bones to knit. Don't discount a training avenue until you've weighed the merits. Steve --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Lance Cross" To: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:15:07 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] 107 Heads... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In regards to the competition of "head removal" would it be possible to line them up and take more than one head off per stroke? POW's had a tendency to loose muscle mass after time in captivity. A little off topic but I read an article on the recipients of the "Victoria Cross" during WWII and one of them was a commonwealth soldier who advanced his troops through enemy fire and took hits to his shoulder that removed his arm. He took a samurai sword from a Japanese Officer and chopped his way to the machine gun nest he was advancing to, chopping down any enemy soldier in his path. Upon the gory sight of a man with an arm blown off chopping down their comrades, many of the enemy soldiers retreated and the nest was prize of the commonwealth. I do not know if the VC was awarded post-humously or not, as many of them are. One martial artist in New York City made it to Ripley's with a board breaking event, when the video is observed one wonders how many perfect hits it takes and what kind of efficiency combined with stamina it takes to do such a feat. It comes down to training without limits to do something like that. Although how would one train for a head removing competition without being a war criminal? -Lance --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Steve Ames" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: padded gear Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:50:23 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Were the results from the nationals posted anywhere? I couldn't locate them on the WEKAF website. (Even better, any video posted? :) ) -Steve Van Harn, Steve wrote: > "junk" wrote: > Subject: RE: [Eskrima] padded gear > Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 00:02:55 -0500 > "I am only through my first few months of training and came to pretty > much > the same conclusion after watching my first competition under wekaf > rules. > Defense seemed to be pretty much ignored with all the gear on. It also > seemed to me that regularly sparring with that mindset could possibly > create > very bad habits; the kind that I certainly would not want to have > surface in > a survival situation." > > Careful of generalizations. Remember WEKAF is a sport aspect, not > survival. Just because defense was not displayed does not mean the > fighters don't possess it. Besides, the rules dictate the action. A > lack of defense can be negatively scored however the rules state > "greatest # of effective hits". The competitor is going to adapt to > what will win. It is a competitive sport. > And not all fighters show a lack of defense while winning. The better > fighters will do both. Be advised, in a full out one minute round, you > WILL get hit. Simply because you do, doesn't mean you didn't have > defense. The sheer number and speed of strikes bear that out. And even > though you are padded, you can get hurt because there is no holding > back, and you will learn from that pain. In the early days I got > pretty damaged in events, now that rarely happens. I am primarily a > defensive fighter (duh) and unfortunately have lost matches as a > result. But so be it, I'll keep my defense. > At the most recent Nationals one competitor put on what amounted to a > blocking seminar during one match. Why? His checking hand was broken > and splinted. Basically he blocked every single full speed combo that > came near him until he could close, arm check and score points with > his good hand. Constantly for three rounds. And the height and reach > difference was also very substantial. Absolutely brilliant! > As has been stated here in the past, WEKAF and padded sparring are yet > another training tool to round out your training. Padded stick/no gear > is another as well as Dog Brothers Gatherings. How often do you go > full contact with an opponent who is not a friend, not cooperative and > honestly wants to inflict some pain? With padding and without, you'll > learn a lot. As an avenue of discovery, padded you can at least do > several times a week rather than wait for the bones to knit. Don't > discount a training avenue until you've weighed the merits. > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Peter Lewis" To: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:33:25 -0000 Subject: [Eskrima] GM Yuli Romo - Zu'Bu Kali Ilustrisimo Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mabuhay Many thanks to everyone who has taken the time to visit the new site at www.zubu-kali.co.uk and to share their positive comments with me. The site is regularly updated, so please feel free to return from time to time. Thank you for supporting GM Yuli Romo and Zu'Bu Kali Ilustrisimo. Gumagalang Peter www.yuli-romo.com www.zubu-kali.co.uk www.bakbakan.com --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:01:13 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Wong Subject: Re: [Eskrima] 107 Heads... To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Lance Cross wrote: In regards to the competition of "head removal" would it be possible to line them up and take more than one head off per stroke? POW's had a tendency to loose muscle mass after time in captivity. [snip] POW's??? They were only chopping heads off POWs??? I hope you're not referring to what happened in Nanking during WW II. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! 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