Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:01:37 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #98 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2300 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Jurg, a Masters grade in Kombatan/IPMAF ?? (jay de leon) 2. the common pen (amrinder singh) 3. Re: the common pen (Ray) 4. The Common Pen (Alex.France@kp.org) 5. Grandmasters in IPMAF (Alex.France@kp.org) 6. Re: Grandmasters in IPMAF (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Jurg, a Masters grade in Kombatan/IPMAF ?? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In my website, I have a list of Top 100 Living FMA Masters in the World, see http://www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com . Should I include him then? Jay de Leon Ray wrote: Jurg Ziegler, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrg_Ziegler Is Jurg "I have a 10th Dan in everything" Ziegler an actual Master of Kombatan through the IPMAF? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "amrinder singh" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:50:59 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] the common pen Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net i beleive the sayoc guys made a titanium pen just to be used specifically for self defence and pressure points. Its built like a tank. aj The choice of pen is important. Ordinary plastic ballpoints tend to disintegrate around the tip once it hits a hard target (e.g. bone). Pencils are, more or less, on the same category as plastic ballpoints. More pricey heavy pens such as Cross would probably be the best option. Choose one with a rotating mechanism though. Those with spring mechanisms tend to break in the middle upon hard contact. _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSNŽ Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] the common pen To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 10:49:45 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Ordinary plastic ballpoints tend to disintegrate around the tip once it > hits a hard target (e.g. bone). Pencils are, more or less, on the same > category as plastic ballpoints. > > More pricey heavy pens such as Cross would probably be the best option. Also consider a $5 hard-plastic Kubotan keychain. Always with you (more likely to have your keys with you than a pen), cheap, highly effective as key flail, fist load, impact or pressure weapon... err, keychain I mean. But, yes, I have a nice heavy Cross pen as a backup. Nice to have "something" in an upper pocket in case you are sitting down. Check your local penal code for potential issues on carrying a kubotan keychain. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 4 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Alex.France@kp.org Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 00:02:55 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] The Common Pen Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In Vol 13 #97, bgdebuque wrote: >>The choice of pen is important... More pricey heavy pens such as Cross would probably be the best option. Choose one with a rotating mechanism though. Those with spring mechanisms tend to break in the middle upon hard contact.<< Absolutely right. I've had a bunch of beautiful, fancy, carved dulo-dulo made from exotic hardwoods to solid horn; but I've given them all away because I like them and figure the recipients would like them too. The one dulo-dulo I will always have, until I actually lose it, is a heavy Cross pen that one of my students, Edward Miguel, gave me. It has a rotating mechanism and is actually pointed on both ends. The other good thing about it is it's always with me, from planes to courtrooms, and nobody gives it a second thought. (smile) Btw, our Dos Puntas / Dulo-Dulo workshop was well-attended and went really well today. Thank you, Alex Ercia! The feeling of "drinking from a fire hose" was still there for some as we went from what-if to what-if; but everybody went home satisfied because as we went from dos puntas to dulo-dulo/pen to emptyhand, the same concepts principles and general technique were evident all the way through. Can you imagine that? Alex Ercia got people to do the same thing over and over again for four solid hours and they loved it! (smile) For next month's workshop, we will go from a weapon as short as a pen to something as long as a staff. In fact, it is the staff. Only, in Kombatan, we call it "Bankaw". (smile). Again, although these workshops are intended as advanced training for our Kombatan instructors here in the Bay Area, everyone is welcome to participate. Beginners are especially encouraged to attend, because there will be plenty of instructors to help them! Alex(ander Bautista Bayot France) --__--__-- Message: 5 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Alex.France@kp.org Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 00:04:06 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Grandmasters in IPMAF Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In Vol 13 #97, Ray Terry asked: >>Is Jurg "(...now, now Ray...)Ziegler an actual Master of Kombatan through the IPMAF?<< In IPMAF (Int'l Philippine Martial Arts Federation), we have the founder of Kombatan, Grandmaster Ernesto Presas, and we have other grandmasters from other systems who like what they see in Kombatan, would like to learn it, and even unselfishly promote it along with their own arts. How quickly they learn and master Kombatan is up to them, but from the moment they join our organization, if they are a grandmaster in their system, they are addressed as "Grandmaster" in our organization. It is only proper. Also, if my grandmaster (Ernesto Presas) wants to give them grandmaster ranking in Kombatan, that's his prerogative. It doesn't bother me. It's his ball and his ball park. I just want to play. (smile) Alex(ander Bautista Bayot France) International Philippine Martial Arts Federation --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Grandmasters in IPMAF To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 17:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > ... Also, > if my grandmaster (Ernesto Presas) wants to give them grandmaster ranking > in Kombatan, that's his prerogative. It doesn't bother me. It's his ball > and his ball park. I guess Angel did something similar, i.e. sold and gave Masters diplomas to several people that did not earn them. Sad, but true... 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