Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:01:47 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #116 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Machetes in Latin America 3 (Young Forest) 2. Re: Machetes, Bolos, (Jorge Penafiel) 3. Re: Re: Machetes, Bolos, (jay de leon) 4. Tapado seminar (Eskrima-FMA) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Young Forest" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:55:17 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Machetes in Latin America 3 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >In 1978 I was in the jungles of Quintanoo Roo (eastern state of the Yucatan >peninsula of Mexico) for 3 weeks living with a tribe of Mayan Indians. As >Karol mentioned, these guys get frighteningly natural from clearing the >jungle with their machetes to have land to plant their crops. (The >children >are quite good with sling shots too. Iguanas often became dinner after >being dinged with a slingshotted rock from astonishing distances, but I >digress , , ,) Any of these men would make an exceedingly dangerous >adversary. A training brother of mine was in Salvador, where an old cane farmer showed him the 'family fighting art', which consisted of reinforced parries to the left, right, and a reinforced roof block, followed by a diagonal slash. That was the entire art. The fact that he had even thought about defence put him way ahead of his peers, who were all just as proficient in using their machetes for offence. Badger Jones Siling Labuyo Arnis www.youngforest.ca --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Jorge Penafiel" To: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:58:48 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Machetes, Bolos, Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Yes, recalling growing up in Iloilo city and the suburbs during the post WW II period and even today,,blades of many sorts primarily a necessity for ones occupation/trade are commonly seen worn or body strapped by these special men. It is true about the sugar land workers, "sakadas" to be seen with their "espading", tuba gatherers with "sanggot" , shoe workers with "Bita", meat cutters with "flamingko or pinuti", the farmers with "ginunting", ice-plant workers with "ice-picks", and my barber with his really sharp "labaha". Ilongos reading this note would know what I'm talking about..And this is the picture thru-out the country much more so in the "Moro Lands". I could not say whether these men have MA training on how to effectively use their tools but indeed, seeing them with these items gives someone second thoughts about pissing them off !! Certainly they have lots of practice and know how to use them if need be. Much as I can recall, them guys and their blades were left alone and respected by the street boys... Those were the days !!! Jorge Penafiel --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:53:15 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Machetes, Bolos, To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Master Jorge: Excellent post as usual. Just a few comments from the peanut gallery. While not an occupation, you could have thrown in the Batanguenos with their balisongs. Also, the "sanggot" was the Pinoy version of the kerambit, so your tuba gatherers were using this weapon/tool way before the kerambit became fashionable here in the US. Certain arnisadors have now incorporated the use of the "sanggot" in their curriculum. Jay de Leon www.tipunan.com Jorge Penafiel wrote: Yes, recalling growing up in Iloilo city and the suburbs during the post WW II period and even today,,blades of many sorts primarily a necessity for ones occupation/trade are commonly seen worn or body strapped by these special men. It is true about the sugar land workers, "sakadas" to be seen with their "espading", tuba gatherers with "sanggot" , shoe workers with "Bita", meat cutters with "flamingko or pinuti", the farmers with "ginunting", ice-plant workers with "ice-picks", and my barber with his really sharp "labaha". Ilongos reading this note would know what I'm talking about..And this is the picture thru-out the country much more so in the "Moro Lands". I could not say whether these men have MA training on how to effectively use their tools but indeed, seeing them with these items gives someone second thoughts about pissing them off !! Certainly they have lots of practice and know how to use them if need be. Much as I can recall, them guys and their blades were left alone and respected by the street boys... Those were the days !!! Jorge Penafiel _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:11:06 -0700 From: Eskrima-FMA To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Tapado seminar Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net CMAS holds seminar on Tapado Sun.Star Iloilo FOUR doctor-members of the Conceptual Martial Arts Society (CMAS), Inc.-Iloilo Chapter traveled to the Municipality of Murcia in Negros Occidental to attend the 5th Negros Conceptual Martial Arts Seminar "Fundamentals of Tapado" last April 14, 2006. The seminar was conducted by Grandmaster Benefredo "Bebing" M. Lobrido of Bago City, president of the Original Filipino Tapado Long Stick Fighting Association (OFTLSFA), at the Maguad Residence in Miranda St. Assisting GM Lobrido was Filipino Tang Soo Do Founder/Headmaster and Original Filipino Tapado Senior Instructor Elmer V. Montoyo of the Philippine Integrated Martial Arts Academy-Filipino Tang Soo Do Association (PIMAA-FTSDA). The visiting doctors, who are from the West Visayas State University (WVSU) College of Medicine, were Cmas-IC Chapter Head Dr. Raymund Antonio A. Maguad, Dr. Eugene Alicante Jr., Dr. Rey Mollenido, and Dr. Jason Rojas. Also present during the training were Cmas founders Narciso "Hansy" L. Alojado and James U. Sy Jr. and Cmas Core Officers Joeffrey S. Dderiada, Francis Stepjhen A. Diaz, and Moises "Jong-Jong" Nifras Jr. GM Lobrido worked on and polished the doctors' gripping, body mechanics, basic strike no. 1 and 2, movement shifts, application, and the pigar line. The doctors started their training in tapado last year with Dr. Maguad giving instructions to the group. The training in Murcia was their first formal training under the guidance of GM Lobrido, the nephew of the late Founder, Grandmaster Romeo "Nono" Mamar, and the 1st generation inheriotr of Original Filipino Tapado. Since the establishment of Cmas-Iloilo Chapter, the group had adopted Original Filipino Tapado as one of the subjects being studied by its memebrs, in addition to Lapu-Lapu Viņas arnis, Yasay sable, and oido de caburata. Dr. Maguad, Dr. Mollenido, and Dr. Alicante were the first to introduce Original Filipino Tapado in a seminar-demo setting in the Panay Island when they were tapped by the Tuburan Study Center to be their resource persons for "The World of Kung Fu and Arnis" which was held during TSC's Gathering last February 2006 at the Tuburan Study Center in Iloilo City. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest