Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 17:46:18 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #135 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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(nephalim1@netscape.net) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 21:57:37 -0700 From: Benard Langan To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] (no subject) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Maha Guru Pak Victor de Thouars will be teaching a Serak workshop in the San Francisco Bay Area on Saturday May 13 from noon till 7 pm. Advanced registration is required. If interested please contact Bernard Langan 510-527-7760 email bjl@stillnessinmotion.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 11:05:49 +0100 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] History.... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net never! slanderous! ; ))) On 5/4/06, Gerry Chenevert wrote: > > I'm fascinated by the history of the islands. In a couple > differentbooks I came across a group called the huk bala hap. Could > anyone shed more light on this group? I'm afraid the material I read may > have been biased, as I believe the accounts were written by Americans. > > -- > Pat Davies > www.amag.org.uk --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Bakbakan@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 08:47:26 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: FMA in San Diego Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Master Christopher "Topher " Ricketts is now residing in San Diego and offering small group & private lessons. Your student can contact him via _bakbakancr@aol.com_ (mailto:bakbakancr@aol.com) . I am confident he will be very pleased with his introduction of Kali Ilustrisimo. Guro John G. Jacobo _www.swacom.com_ (http://www.swacom.com) Coming soon! _www.IlustrisimoUSA.com_ (http://www.IlustrisimoUSA.com) --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Stephen Lamade" To: Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 13:39:22 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Espada y Daga Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Here are some links to video clips from a couple of seminars that a friend and I taught last year: http://www.northshoreac.com/san_miguel_eskrima/training_resources_files/ptksm e_dvd_example.mp4 http://www.northshoreac.com/san_miguel_eskrima/training_resources_files/ptksm e_dvd_example2.mp4 http://www.northshoreac.com/san_miguel_eskrima/training_resources_files/ptksm e_dvd_example3.mp4 http://www.northshoreac.com/san_miguel_eskrima/training_resources_files/ptksm e_dvd_example4.mp4 The Filipino martial arts represented are Pekiti Tirsia Kali and San Miguel Eskrima. Please note that they are in Quicktime format; if you want to open them as a Windows Movie File please let me know. Best, --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Young Forest" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 14:03:32 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: advice/Instructor-Ego Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >From: Ray > >Many talented people will have an ego. Not all, but many. Learn to >overlook >it the best you can. You don't need to like your instructor or hang out >with them. Just learn from them. Yep. Let's face it, folks, martial artists by and large, are not 'normal'. Everybody has idiosyncracies, and if you are a person who likes having other people swing sticks at your head, you're bound to have more than your fair share. Every single instructor I've had, every single one, has been a loon in one way or another. I'm sure my students feel the same way about me. Badger Jones Siling Labuyo Arnis www.youngforest.ca --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 10:46:32 -0400 From: bgdebuque To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Ego in the martial arts Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The "worst" definition of "ego" I found from dictionary.com is as follows: "an inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others" Taken in this context, deep inside, all so-called "driven men" and "leaders" (regardless whether he/she is a used car salesman, an entrepreneur, a scientist, a military commander, a politician or a martial arts instructor) carry this disease. The only difference is in the way they project it externally. Some like to flaunt it, some just keep it inside. Nowadays, most martial art classes are conducted like normal physical education classes. In the old days, they were mostly conducted like military boot camps. In the military, consciously and sub-consciously, you are being molded to develop a superiority complex vis-a-vis your opponents (which is normally euphemestically referred to as a "can do" attitude). This is because it is doubtful whether a military unit trained to be "second best" would be very effective in actual combat. Everybody knows that, in actual combat, the second placer ends up in a body bag... =[:->] There is no room for mistakes either. In actual combat, every mistake would mean loss of blood, limb and/or life. Your instructor might just be a follower of the old school. Message: 8 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] advice/Instructor-Ego To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 14:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Just piece of advice, you dont need to absorb his ego, just learn from him, >If he is good, why quit. You know in fighting, or Martial arts, If you lost >temper it will trigger your focus, it will disrupt your plan. You should be focus >at all times. I studied for more than 12Masters and believed me I have seen >worst, but I have to put my personal feeling aside just to learn their arts, >not thier ego. I am not saying put up for personal abuse, if he is in any point >abusing his power, you also have to let him know, that you are there to learn >from him something not to be mal-treated in any way. This is good advice. Many talented people will have an ego. Not all, but many. Learn to overlook it the best you can. You don't need to like your instructor or hang out with them. Just learn from them. Now... if they have a big ego and they suck... then find another instructor. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 11:11:19 -0400 From: bgdebuque To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Unsung Philippine heroes - Americans who fought for us Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Philippine history curriculum should probably also be revised to give credit to American soldiers who fought for us. I think there was a total of 15 - 9 whites and 6 blacks. The famous ones include "Colonel" Harry Long and the notorious Donald Fagen. They have become traitors to their own country fighting for what they think is a just cause... > > -- __--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 00:06:33 -0700 (PDT) > From: jay de leon > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Lucio De Vega's final shout of defiance > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > And there is of course a dramatic element to this story. The Americans > simply baited the group into a trap. There was supposed to be an American > emissary with official documents for a truce, pardon and recognition of a > provisional government. Right... Instead, American troops surprised and > surrounded the group when they came to the festival for the alleged > meet. At their trial, the American emissary conveniently disappeared, and > the Katipuneros were quickly tried and sentenced to death for being bandits. > > Philippine history is as steeped in blood as any other country's history. > > Jay de Leon > www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com > > bgdebuque wrote: > The one I always remember most is Lucio De Vega. > > He was supposed to have shouted: "Mga tunay na Katipunero kami!" right > before he died in the gallows together with Sakay and other hardcore > Bonifacio followers. > > Come to think of it, your grandfather was with Lucio De Vega at that > glorious moment... > > Somebody should popularize this story in the Philippine History > curriculum. > It is probably more dramatic than Jose Rizal's writing of "Mi Ultimo > Adios" > (although the group of Lucio De Vega and Macario Sakay are also die-hard > admirers of Jose Rizal). --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Instruction in San Diego, CA To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 08:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Hello everyone. I have a beginner level student that is moving to San > Diego, CA in about four months. He is interested in continuing his > studies in the FMA. Of course Narrie Babao is down that way. Also Master Chief Chris Siangco of Pedoy's Derobio Escrima (http://www.pedoyescrima.com/). Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "abreton@juno.com" Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 19:44:38 GMT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Filipina maid/slave repulses rape attempt Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Do you have the article and journal title as well? Every so often, I teach a women's self defense class, and this question comes up "In what situations should I fight back?" It's tough for a man to answer, because generally we're faced with a different sort of violence. In the particular example of rape, I've read some internet postings on the different types of rapists that the FBI behavioral scientists have. But to expect a women facing a very intense situation to stop and think "is this a power/dominance guy?" is, I think, unlikely to happen. Andy -- "Sonny Padilla" wrote: US Statistics: A woman who fights back gains around an 86% chance of avoiding the rape and she incurs little chance of injury. (Most injuries are sustained BEFORE the woman starts fighting back.) Women who used knives or guns in self defense were raped less than 1% of the time. (Kleck and Sayles, 1990). More power to the woman!!! Sonny --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Sonny Padilla" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Filipina maid/slave repulses rape attempt Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 15:01:36 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net That would be Aggression & Assault Women's Reality under statistics Canada and US statistics. When I conduct self defense courses I always tell my classes that the best time to defend is on the first 5 seconds of the attack. Either fight with all your might or flight. Your ability to defend yourself deminishes with time, and use of a weapom increases survival rate. Have mercy to your opponent and you would be cruel to yourself. Sonny >From: "abreton@juno.com" >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Filipina maid/slave repulses rape attempt >Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 19:44:38 GMT > >Do you have the article and journal title as well? >Every so often, I teach a women's self defense class, and this question >comes >up "In what situations should I fight back?" It's tough for a man to >answer, >because generally we're faced with a different sort of violence. In the >particular example of rape, I've read some internet postings on the >different >types of rapists that the FBI behavioral scientists have. But to expect a >women facing a very intense situation to stop and think "is this a >power/dominance guy?" is, I think, unlikely to happen. >Andy > > >-- "Sonny Padilla" wrote: >US Statistics: >A woman who fights back gains around an 86% chance of avoiding the rape and >she incurs little chance of injury. (Most injuries are sustained BEFORE >the >woman starts fighting back.) Women who used knives or guns in self defense >were raped less than 1% of the time. (Kleck and Sayles, 1990). More power >to the woman!!! > >Sonny >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 20:17:10 -0400 From: nephalim1@netscape.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] History.... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I am waiting for my friends response. I asked if I could post his writings about the "hukbo". One thing I know is that they (Hukbo) used the "tambuli" (blowhorn made from a water buffalo's horn)to carry out troop maneuvers. The very sound of that horn made the Japanese shake in their boots because the Japanaese army knew who they were up against. BRGDS, Jose Gerry Chenevert" wrote: >I'm fascinated by the history of the islands.  In a couple >different books I came across a group called the huk bala hap.  Could >anyone shed more light on this group?  I'm afraid the material I read may >have been biased, as I believe the accounts were written by Americans.  >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list,  2300 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. 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