Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 02:59:25 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #145 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2300 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Seminar in Montreal: Silat Kuntao Tekpi (kenbocan@dsuper.net) 2. Re: Kalis Ilustrisimo Seminar (James Thornton) 3. Philipppine Disunity and Economic Plight (jay de leon) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:41:10 -0400 (EDT) From: kenbocan@dsuper.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Seminar in Montreal: Silat Kuntao Tekpi Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Silat Instructor Omar Hakim, of Dallas Texas, will be in Montreal at GAMMA to conduct a Silat Kuntao Tekpi workshop from Noon to 5pm on Saturday, May 20, 2006. Omar Hakim has spend quite a few years in Indonesia and Malasia to aquire this method and has been entrusted with spreading this knowlege here in North America by the leaders in Malasia. Prior to this study Omar had spend many years under the tuitilage of Grand Tuhon Leo Gaje and is still considered one of his top representatives in the US. Cost of this seminar is $60 and participation is limited. Contact Philip Gelinas at (514) 281-9928 or email him at bttcanada@videotron.ca for more information and to make reservations. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 16:24:16 -0700 (PDT) From: James Thornton Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Kalis Ilustrisimo Seminar To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello Kalam, Im not sure if Shamim had talked to you regarding tyhe seminar?We will half to post pone the seminar I will address everyone regarding this matter once I secure another date with Shamim. Thanks! james Thornton info@kalis-ilustrisimo.org wrote: Hello all, Just to remind everyone that there will be a Kalis Ilustrisimo Seminar on the 20th and 21st of May 2006 in Texas. Kalis Ilustrisimo Seminar MAY 20 & 21 May 2006 Time : 10 am - 3pm VENUE : Multiplex Center 1005 Fifth Street Wichita Falls TX 76302 USA. Cost : $75 for One Day. $80 at the door. $150 for Two Days. $175 at the door for Two Days. The seminar will be in the US, in Texas. This is Guru Shamim's First Seminar in the US. Please see our website www.kalis-ilustrisimo.org for our club details. For More information about the seminar please call Guru James Thornton who will be hosting this seminar on (940)642-4112 or via email gurujames322000@yahoo.com. Kind Regards, Kalam. _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 21:27:08 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Philipppine Disunity and Economic Plight Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net With Rey's permission, I would like to publish a copy of a post today at one of my other forums, an Ateneo forum called luxid. I have the permission of the author to post it here, a friend and classmate named Manuel "Manny" Tiangha, and I am posting his complete post (which is a reply to a previous post) for you guys to see we post on any subject. Thanks, Jay de Leon Is the thoroughness affected by using the right hand versus the left hand if one is left-handed or right-handed and is it further affected by the location of the toilet paper holder - whether it is to the left or to the right particularly if one is left or right handed? ======================================= Meanwhile - let me focus on the less complex issue as to why the Philippines (not Filipinos) has been "left behind". **NOTE: Many Filipinos, taken as individuals, in the US, abroad, elsewhere, have incredibly succeeded (financially & materially) in practically all fields of human endeavor - but why (as a nation) there is this gap? (Caveat: I am going to re-tell a theory or theories which has or have been posited very silently - in fact, mentioned only in whispers -in many academic circles, particularly in the US- because they are thoroughly controversial and shocking. I am summarizing the theory not because I necessarily agree with it/them). 1. Historical Roots of the Malay "Filipino" prior to 1492 The islands were populated by a disparate, un-unified, eclelctic group of Malay people that had different customs, dialects, sets of laws, rulers, etc. Mosty of these folks were either Muslims or sympathetic to the Islam religion. This eclectic group was unified for the very first time (though superficially) under one unified "national" rule (administration & law) when Spain colonized the islands. The use and teaching of the Spanish language was not spread to the entire general population but was purposely kept limited only to a special class, i.e. the elite, creating a social divide that is still very much evident today although the divisions today are defined not so much by language but by socio-economic measurements, i.e. wealth, income, eudcation, assets, etc. In short, the Spanish language was not able or never meant to unify the country culturally. One could say that the introduction of the Catholic faith by the Spanish friars, in a manner of speaking, created a common religion among the disparate cultural tribes - but that did not unify the islands. *Paul Dumol stated that until the Americans came, the existence of "provinces" as a unit of government did not even loom in the minds of the islanders. What was typical of pre-Hispanic Philippines, Hispanic Philippines and present-day Philippines? To many or the majority -everything is or was seen from my-family-is-always-first perspective; even if it hurts the government - for as long as my family getrs ahead! The government is seen either as an obstruction or as an external mechanism to be exploited and manipulated (ginugulangan) to benefit one's family, clan and one's personal gian. Consequence: No sense of common unified nationhood, except the love for adobo, kare-kare, Pancit Palabok. From Bonifcaio to Aguinaldo -- the list goes on & on. Incidences of treachery and national "traitorhood" or betrayal (Bonifcaio vs Aguinaldo, Rizal vs the Nasugbu squealers who reported his whereabouts to the Spaniards, Osmena as a Japanese collaborator) are replete simply owing to this lack of "national" purpose or mission. Remember: The people who pulled the trigger to shoot Rizal were all Filipinos! Altruistic nationalism (a redundancy) did not or does not exist! 2. Defintion: What does "Being Filipino" mean? "Who is a Filipino" question needs to be defined. Unfortunatelyt, there is no definition that is understood and exemplified and accepted in words and deeds and that cuts across all socio-economic groups. The answer to "being a Filipino" may be as varied as there are Filipinos (from different socio-economic classes) as can or who can express an opinion (or an Op/Ed).. Is Ayala a Filipino just as say the poorest Filipino a Filipino? What unites the 2? Are they really united under one "value" or one "legal" system? Net effect: Answering that question in a way that provides a common ground will assist in this question: What does being a Filipino mean? What does or does not the term "Filipino" encompass? Consequently, the inability to come out with a very clear definition defines exactly where the Filipino or the Philippines is today - clueless about the present, and clueless about the future, clueless about each other. *Ask a Filipino what he thinks of his fellow Filipinos, and you will not get a very firm answer that connotes trust and understanding and appreciation. So, if there is no clear understanding and loyalty as to what the Filipino (and the Philippines) stands for - how can a sense of nation take place? How can 85 million people be moitivated to sacrifice for "the national good" when that idea (the national good versus my own clan) does not exist, and perhaps never existed? 3. The overseas Asians : Their role as culprits time and time again in keeping the Philippines and the Filipinos where they are: It has been said that allowing these peripatetic nomads to control (over the last 500 years ) large portions of the local "economy" will always be a problem for generating "national" unity. Why will this "tolerance" be dangerous? Again, their (the overseas Asians) loyalty is only to their specific family and their clan (who speaks their language and where they share the same food) and so they could usurp and corrupt the local people without care or pangs of conscience. These overseas Asians were expelled from a certain country by the Mandarin (educated) class who looked down on merchants as a lower/useless class (because it is said that they (merchants) do not or did not subscribe to any sense of nationhood or sense of ethics or sense of sacrifice or to a higher purpose but only focused on immediate material gain/ and immediate material satisfaction). A merchant always looks at things in terms of material gain, material loss or breaking even and looks at relationships in terms of a transaction (for the gain, loss or breaking-even). Bottom Line: If the economy (and the people buried under it) is seen as a hunting ground by the overseas Asians who partner with the local "elite" to exploit the general population (thus a large population is in fact always an asset from a market standpoint) - then the existence of the autocracy or autocratic elite (in political elections, in business, in military affairs, in government) will always be sustained and always be perpetuated without necessarily looking at the "national good". The sense of a "national good" is a harmful idea to the overseas Asians. ============================== Question: Can or will or how the Philippines catch up with the rest of SE Asia, i.e. Singapore, HK, China, Malaysia? Answer: The answer is a no-brainer with respect to the "can". The more difficult part in the answer is the "how". The "how" poresupposes a country unified under one purpose. Some have stated that countries such as Singapore and HK have benefitted from the Philippines lying dormant because the "self-destructive" and "dysfunctionaL' behavior has allowed their economies to flourish. ========= Unaswered Question: What is that spiritual or inanimate or intangible "thing" (vision, values, purpose, etc.) that can unify the Filipinos on a sustained and a long-term basis such that he will think first (in fact, die, sacrifice, etc) of his other Filipinos rather than think first for or of himself? ====== Question: Let us look at the Philippines, figuratively speaking, as the WTC structure hit on 9/11 by 2 jet planes. There are people burning and dying in this burning building. We wonder: How many firemen and policemen (wearing the Philippine logo) will or would immediately and by instinct scamper up the building to save the grief-struck victims (whose names and faces they do not know) at the risk of losing their very own lives, knowing that they would surely die in the process? Or will they, as is customary, first look foir their friends and relatives in the burning building and do selective "sacrifice"? =========== OK OK Class before you are dismissed -- note that the answers are not out there but in here. If you think or believe that you will or can die for an abstraction called the Philippines (no if you are willing to sacrifice your life for another Filipino (no questions asked) a Filipino whose name you do not need to know or do not care to know, and that you do care but you do not care for his economic or sociall class or status, etc) then you can become a true (or the first) Filipino Idol. In other words, if you can die for another Filipino (whose name you dont need to know) and lose everything (your life) without the thought of material gain or material benefit - then that nation will have been born or re-born. ========================= Manny Tiangha --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest