Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 03:04:29 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #180 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2300 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Functional (iPat) 2. Re: Updates to San Miguel Eskrima websiete; Pekit Tirsi Kali and (Ray) 3. Mind, Body and Kickass Moves (chanoaim@bellsouth.net) 4. Re: Sorry if this was shown already (Buz Grover) 5. Article on Mindanao 5 (jay de leon) 6. Youtube.com (Michael Koblic) 7. Menace (Michael Koblic) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:51:09 +0100 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Functional Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net thank you for the offer, I'm afraid i cannot commit although that shouldnt be taken as a slight in any way. Im sure MT is a great person and good teacher. Hes quite entitled to set up his own 'system' and create a living for himself. I deliberatly didnt personalise the issue and will try to continue that way. i will say that i saw one series in a magazine that was effectively panatukan. Why do people not simply say where it comes from? This is right through the martial arts world and does not lie at one mans door. Yes there are a lot of people out there claiming to be something they are not and then there are those who are pretending to be on top of that something they are not. Im not THAT interested as im just completely enjoying the journey i'm on. am i doing something wrong because the implication is that im airy fairy but in reality its just a marketing tool to try and sell something to someone. Of course there are good schools and bad schools, people train in one way and others in another. I surround my school with excellence so we constantly grow, constantly challenge our training methods. The way i taught three years ago has changed for example. I know many good UK martial artists who do not dare join Marc McFanns UFA as they dont want to go through the test (lets call it functional) but the person who joined up last week in my club didnt give two shakes about what we call it and their (or my) 'success' isnt determined by whether they sit that test. (US listers can use the example of Ajarn Chais test or any other damn test that takes you to the limit) Lets cut to the chase shall we, the vast majority of people who walk through that door are looking for more than 'functional' self defence methods. They are looking to grow and the medium isnt really that important. By learning the co ordination of a siniwalli drill or a spinning hook kick, a disarm in flow or an escape from a pin, the student is developing the strength to become more assertive, more self empowered and socially dynamic. What is more functional than that? in my days of thuggery i fought a lot but i dont want to glorify that as a selling point BECAUSE i dont want to justify it as a model for others to imitate. I have purposely accumulated the role models around me that are helping me grow and i hope that i can continue in that vein. The role models we have seen in the uk in the past ten years have been based on thuggery. Ex doormen, criminals, football hooligans etc and you walk into any bookshop and you see their tales being sold in abundance and tv shows glorifying their sorry existence. And people buy them up as if their lives are shallow and they want the real thing? AND WE WONDER WHY OUR STREETS ARE DANGEROUS AFTER PUB CLOSING TIME? I decided to put the chineses letters of JKD on my new schools tee shirt. Why? Because i have respect to my teachers to do it. I am lucky enough to share in one of the best lineages I could ever have dreamt of and dont need to put any moniker to detract from it. Theres no conflict there you see, its a simple truth. someone somewhere told us that we need more and we bought it. Doesnt mean they were right. Its like the people who ask marc which is the best knife to stab someone with. respects On 6/10/06, Ollie Batts wrote: I assume he does that because he > has identified that there are a lot of people out there who are teaching > stuff that he regards as being non-functional. (i.e. non-workable and not > practical.) You know, the airy fairy stuff that some people, often with > little or no experience of the real world, teach and speak of as being > usable, workable and practical in their version of 'the real world'. > > Take the piss if you like, but have you ever actually seen or trained with > Mo' Teague? If not, come along for free, as my guest, and I'll introduce you > to him. > > > Ollie -- Pat Davies www.amag.org.uk --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Updates to San Miguel Eskrima websiete; Pekit Tirsi Kali and To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >I have recently updated my site to include additional information related to >San Miguel Eskrima; it includes a link to a DVD set that Wes Tasker and I made >recently. The URL is: >http://northshoreac.com/san_miguel_eskrima/training.htm And a decent vid it is. Sorry Steve for not mentioning sooner. Well worth checking out. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: To: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:39:51 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Mind, Body and Kickass Moves Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello All - Not sure if this was already posted or not. Please disregard if it was. Ray had previously posted an interesting link to this BBC -3 show entitled "Mind, Body and Kickass Moves". The show has covered various martial arts and I came across this segment on PMA featuring Pekiti Tersia, Black Eagle Eskrima, etc. Wanted to share the clips with the group in case they hadn't been seen. Enjoy. Interesting coverage on "anting-anting" toward the end of the Pekiti Tersia clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXfZ9C9vJso&search=mind%20body%20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIt2NI54qBA&search=mind%20body%20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81xAaa4dCc4&search=mind%20body%20 Gumagalang Guro Glenn Harris Student of Garimot System USA "Don't miss the Garimot Arnis Training Summer Retreat July 7, 8 and 9 2006 at TY Park in Hollywood, Florida. For more information please contact chanoaim@bellsouth.net" --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Buz Grover Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:52:02 -0400 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Sorry if this was shown already Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Michael posts: > This is priceless! Spot the fake MA training! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgeWh3iqo1o&search=itf That was good humor. I think, however, really offensive body odor better explains the reactions of many of the gents providing lame feeds. Regards, Buz Grover --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:29:06 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Article on Mindanao 5 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net MINDANAO JOTTINGS : AN AFTERNOON WITH A TOWN MAYOR It was right after lunch, and I had decided that day to stay at the office in Cotabato City. I was hoping that it would be a quiet, uneventful afternoon, and I could catch up on some much needed paperwork. Of course, I had no such luck. My bodyguard came into the office, and announced, “The Chief of Police of Sultan Kudarat is here to see you.” The Chief of Police was in full khaki uniform with a holstered sidearm, complete with what we called then a Pershing cap. He was very polite but firm, and informed me that the Mayor of Sultan Kudarat would like to speak with me, in his office. Sultan Kudarat was the next big town right outside Cotabato City, on the way to Davao City, geographically the first town on the road construction project. It was probably about thirty minutes away. It was not everyday I was invited by a town mayor for an official palaver, with his Chief of Police as my escort. I was actually curious what he had to say. But the biggest reason for going was, the town of Sultan Kudarat, as well as its mayor, chief of police and the majority of its inhabitants were Muslim. The mayor was once a politically powerful man, part of the Muslim political machinery that ran Cotabato. Now, he was reduced to running a second-class enclave surrounded by Christian towns and politicians. Still, he was not a man to be trifled with or ignored. I asked the Chief of Police if I could bring my security along. He said, if you wish, but there is no need. I will escort you myself, and bring you back here. I decided against bringing Joe, my security officer, along. And so off we went in his official Land Cruiser jeep, with a uniformed policeman as a driver. Our actual destination turned out to be the house of the mayor itself. It looked just like the other nice houses in the city, just a little bit bigger and probably more elaborately furnished than the others. The mayor was a short, squat dark man in his sixties, I guessed. We shook hands, and he smoked while I nursed a soda the whole time we talked. He was a soft spoken man who spoke slowly and deliberately in fairly good Tagalog. It was evident he was educated, and he spoke and moved unhurriedly. He said he had seen many changes the past years, and he was sure that the new road construction would bring even more changes than before. He thanked me for helping bring about progress in that part of the country. I said that this was just another of President Marcos’s many infrastructure projects, and we were just executing his plan. He made a crack about, yes, you guys work in the heat and dust and Marcos gets the glory. Well, I replied, we do get paid for it. That eventually brought us to the whole point of the meeting. He hinted that after serving his people and the town for most of his life, he did not have much to show for it. He said if he would appreciate it if he could have some part in the construction project, not in an official capacity, but as a businessman. I replied that his request was beyond my jurisdiction to fulfill, but I would look into it and get back to him. I knew exactly who to pass the buck to. The following day, I had a meeting with the Number 2 man in Philrock, a very amiable, hardworking and efficient Kapampangan named Tablante. As usual, he was very helpful and decisive about the whole thing. In a few days, Tablante and I watched the mayor’s three dump trucks working alongside my trucks. His decrepit dump trucks were a stark contrast to my brand new, bright-red, smart looking Hino dump trucks zipping around the construction zone. The conversation between Tablante and myself went something like this. Tablante : “I don’t know how long those old trucks of his are going to last.” Jay : “And he is slowing my trucks down. But I guess my fifty trucks can co-exist with his three trucks.” Tablante : “They are going to be a pain, but it’s a small price for us to pay, Jay. Good work with the Mayor.” Jay : “And thanks for handling it on your end, sir. Very smooth, as usual.” Tablante : “Yes, the Mayor was pleased with the arrangement. Dinner and drinks and some fine women next week in the city, as usual?” Jay “My treat, as usual. Looking forward to it.” We shook hands and went our separate ways. Copyright Jay de Leon 2006 Jay de Leon www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:14:12 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Youtube.com Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Youtube.com has a stack of interesting videos. I find, however, that sometimes the videos fail to play in their entirety. Anyone else has this experience? Is there a cure? Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:12:34 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Menace Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >From Animal: "Ya know, for some reason my attorney took one look at a blade specifically designed 1) not to take fingerprints 2) cheap enough to be a "throw away" and 3) sized for easy concealment and proceeded to have kittens over liability issues. As such the project was shelved." OK, I'll bite. Are there any pictures of this? Would the lawyer's feline fecundity be reduced by calling it a "Lovechild" or "Magnolia" instead of "Menace"? Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest