Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:49:18 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #187 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2300 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: short swords?! (Jonathan Kessler) 2. Re: short swords?! (Steve Ames) 3. Re: Bloody Wars (Afern27@aol.com) 4. Re: Tire bags (Van Harn, Steve) 5. Re: Short Swords? (buz_ed_alias@mac.com) 6. Article on Mindanao 8 (jay de leon) 7. Tire dummies (Michael Koblic) 8. Short swords (Michael Koblic) 9. Short swords (T David Reyes) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:03:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Subject: Re: [Eskrima] short swords?! To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Cas/Iberia (Hanwei) makes some nice, useable, affordable blades. http://www.casiberia.com/ I just picked up their espada y daga set. Nice value, handles and cuts well. JK Steve Ames wrote: What do you consider light enough? With WMA making a major resurgence over the last decade there are a LOT of sword vendors out there depending on your needs and price range. Given that your average longsword ways in at around 3.5 pounds I'm not sure what your looking for as far as weight. Couple of websites to checkout: www.albion-swords.com - likely a bit pricey. Single hand swords are ~30 inches (give or take) and weigh in at around 2.5lbs. www.angustrimdirect.com - I'm a big fan of Gus' work. Fine, fine looking swords and hold up to a good bit of abuse. Hard to be more specific without knowing what weight your shooting for and price range. -steve > Hi all, > Maybe I am not looking at the right websites but can someone > recommend a site that carries short swords under 30" that are > suitable for more finess than big cuts...I have not found anything on > the market that is light enough for me, or maybe I must just grow > stronger, any input on this would be appreciated... > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Steve Ames" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] short swords?! Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:58:44 -0400 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Jonathan Kessler wrote: > Cas/Iberia (Hanwei) makes some nice, useable, affordable blades. > http://www.casiberia.com/ > I just picked up their espada y daga set. > Nice value, handles and cuts well. Good catch. I have their Scottish Court Sword (technically a smallsword). Very nice. Blade is 31" but its less than 2 pounds. It also has zero edge as its intended to be a stabby weapon. Which is another question... in addition to desired weight, length, pricerange... what type of hilt are you looking at and what type of design (cutting, cut and thrust, etc...). Also are you looking for a blunt practice blade or a sharp? > JK > > Steve Ames wrote: > What do you consider light enough? With WMA making a major > resurgence over the last decade there are a LOT of sword vendors out > there depending on your needs and price range. Given that your > average longsword ways in at around > 3.5 pounds I'm not sure what your looking for as far as weight. > > Couple of websites to checkout: > > www.albion-swords.com - likely a bit pricey. Single hand swords are > ~30 inches (give or take) and weigh in at around 2.5lbs. > www.angustrimdirect.com - I'm a big fan of Gus' work. Fine, fine > looking swords and hold up to a good bit of abuse. > > Hard to be more specific without knowing what weight your shooting > for and price range. > > -steve > > >> Hi all, >> Maybe I am not looking at the right websites but can someone >> recommend a site that carries short swords under 30" that are >> suitable for more finess than big cuts...I have not found anything on >> the market that is light enough for me, or maybe I must just grow >> stronger, any input on this would be appreciated... >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! >> http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members >> Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >> Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >> Standard disclaimers apply >> http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Afern27@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:08:48 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Bloody Wars Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net To play devil's advocate, maybe the references to boxing and the US just means that the particular boxing influence in question comes from the American style. Which IS slightly different than the more upright British/European one. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:12:32 -0500 From: "Van Harn, Steve" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Tire bags Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Just for additional input, not all tires will shock back or rebound. I constructed mine out of racing slicks. Had a friend who raced on the small circle tracks and he gave me all the used slicks I wanted. They're very smooth, wide (I only needed 6 for a full 6'5" tower and have soft sidewalls so they deform easily. They work great for developing that penetrating leg shot but that benefit also has a drawback. The tire absorbs all the force(easy on the body) but causes you to develop a bad habit of leaving the stick on the target and not drawing it back. I've been considering making another "traditional" one just to counteract this. Steve --__--__-- Message: 5 From: buz_ed_alias@mac.com Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:46:18 -0400 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Short Swords? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Norm asks: > Maybe I am not looking at the right websites but can someone > recommend a > site that carries short swords under 30" that are suitable for more > finess > than big cuts...I have not found anything on the market that is > light enough > for me, or maybe I must just grow stronger, any input on this would be > appreciated.. Lotta nice stuff out there if your pockets are deep enough such as this: http://www.s4supply.com/images/600_Corkum_Waki.JPG If you're just looking for something to beat around with I'd hit eBay for a cheap wakizashi. Think Ontario Knives makes one, and there are plenty of other knock offs to be had. I'd get something with a cord wrapped handle as most the cheap Iberia and the like "samurai swords" I've handled have plastic pins that run through the handle and tang. Don't take much to break 'em. Regards, Buz Grover --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:59:00 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Article on Mindanao 8 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net MINDANAO JOTTINGS: DAVAO CITY, MY OASIS OF PEACE Every chance I got, I traveled to Davao City. Every excuse I could find, I was on my way to Davao City. The road being constructed began in the province of South Cotabato and ended in the province of Davao. Where the road construction ended, Davao City was a scant half an hour away. Compared to Cotabato City, Davao City was paradise in so many ways. First of all, Davao City was much bigger and more cosmopolitan than Cotabato City. In fact, Davao City has the distinction of being the largest city in the Philippines as well as the world in land area, covering almost 603,000 acres. In addition, Davao City was a minor tourist destination in the South. It had white, sandy beaches, five star hotels and restaurants, exciting night life and entertainment and many ethnic festivals. The province of Davao is home to Mount Apo, the highest mountain in the Philippines and the monkey-eating Philippine eagle. But those were not the reasons why I took refuge in Davao City as often as I did. True, to a large extent it took my mind away from work and the daily construction grind. The biggest factor was, Davao City was as peaceful as a major city could get. The province and the city were predominantly Christian, and peace and order was not a problem in Davao City. I could leave two things behind in Cotabato every time I traveled to Davao City—my guns and my bodyguard. When business reasons warranted a trip, I took the company vehicle, the biggest Ford pick-up truck then with reinforced shocks, and the company driver named Bong, who normally would be assigned to the construction site. I would reassign my personal vehicle, regular driver and bodyguard to help out in the camp. The company had business associates in Davao City, and we would spend the evenings hitting the night spots. I remember going to several nice restaurants, a nightclub called the Marrakesh, and several massage parlors. The massage parlors were not as plush and the masseuses not as comely as the ones in Manila, but they pretty much provided the same, er, basic services. After a nice invigorating massage, the massage included, for a small gratuity, a handjob called “sensation” in those days. When it was strictly a personal trip, I usually flew to Davao. For most of these trips, it was a junket with my girl friend Emma. We would stay either at the Insular Hotel, at that time the city’s premier hotel, or the Apo View Hotel, and spend a long weekend playing tourist. We would go shopping, hit the beaches, dine at the restaurants and dance at the clubs just like any romantic couple. I enjoyed Emma’s company. She was very pretty, slender, educated, outgoing, articulate, even-tempered, passionate and fun to be with. I will always remember our good times, and I will always be grateful for her love and sweetness during those times. Those trips with Emma made Davao City even more memorable. One time we took a regular bus on one of these trips. I found the trip uncomfortable, in fact downright miserable. There was construction in parts of the highway, we bounced all over the bus because of the rough road, and half the trip was in the dust. That was the first and last time we took the bus. I guess it was different when I was working, and I could put up with it, but not when I was on vacation. Just like most people in the area, I found myself looking forward to the day when that road was finally complete and fully cemented from Cotabato City to Davao City. Copyright Jay de Leon 2006 Jay de Leon www.philippinereporter.blogspot.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:18:32 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Tire dummies Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "So I guess that would be like hitting bone with a stick then!! ;-) Seriously though, there is a world of difference between hitting a tyre (UK spelling) and twirling a stick in the air, so take care." What *is* wrong with hitting the ordinary punch bags? I have done so for years. The only 2 caveats are: The angles are limited and BOB does not like being hit... Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:28:19 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Short swords Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "Maybe I am not looking at the right websites but can someone recommend a site that carries short swords under 30" that are suitable for more finess than big cuts...I have not found anything on the market that is light enough for me, or maybe I must just grow stronger, any input on this would be appreciated." I have a Paul Chen practical wakizashi which I bought on eBay and a pinuti from Kris cutlery. If you include tanto's there is an even wider choice. I practice with them from time to time but have not done any cutting with them. Both were less than $150 if I recall correctly. Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:37:52 -0700 From: T David Reyes To: Subject: [Eskrima] Short swords Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net on 6/15/06 11:39 AM, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net at eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net wrote: > websites but can someone recommend a > site that carries short swords under 30" that are suitable for more finess > than big cuts...I have not found anything on the market that is light enough > for me, This might work. Maybe a bit pricey, but one lively piece of iron. Add to that a a custom border patrol style handle and a custom leather shoulder harness makes for a very serious rig! Worth a look in any event. Hope this helps. http://www.plan-a.org/mmhw/whip.htm Best Regards, David Reyes- --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest