Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:06:42 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #208 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Bareknuckles v. Gloves (Steve Ames) 2. Power punching (Michael Koblic) 3. Denny, mcjung, MacYoung , , , he stuck in his thumb and pulled out a plum (Marc Denny) 4. Boxing Glove weights (Ollie Batts) 5. Short sword or machete (Peter Gow) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:41:26 -0400 From: Steve Ames To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Bareknuckles v. Gloves Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 04:27:54PM +0100, iPat wrote: > On 6/29/06, Steve Ames wrote: > > > > Marc Denny covered this quite thouroughly already. I honestly can't add > > a thing. Good stuff. > > 'cept it was marc mcjung Doh. Apologies to both parties ;) -Steve --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:16:20 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Power punching Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net " For non-greasemonkeys, a layman's explination is the coil takes a small amount of electricity from your car battery and cranks it up enough so it powerful enough to arc the gap in your spark plugs. There needs to be more power at the sparkplug than at the battery and the coil is how you get this increase. Otherwise your car battery would arc everytime you got near it with metal)." I know sod all about power punching but a little bit about electricity - this is not a good example. The coil increases the *voltage*, not the power, power has to stay constant. Sparks occur if there is a big voltage difference, power (voltage-times-current) is not necessary (walk on a carpet in a dry room and then touch the door-knob: in the dark you will see the spark). I thought your book, however, covers power generation admirably, stressing the weight transfer as a primary power generating factor. This is a common feature to many other activities and sports. I never really understood the physics of it (and still do not understand it completely), but a little book called "The Physics of Hockey" by Alain Hache went a long way to clarify this. The critical concept is momentum transfer (the book analyzes this with regards to the slap shot) and in this concept the important factor is the *effective* mass. I interpret this as the ability to project one's total body weight into the equation as a part of the momentum transfer. One can see this in people who can hit a baseball, golf or tennis ball effectively. I agree with the other view expressed here that the weight of the gloves probably does not contribute to the power of the punch per se. Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:40:51 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Denny, mcjung, MacYoung , , , he stuck in his thumb and pulled out a plum Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: When I read Steve Ames's post just now, I said to myself "I did?" Is this marc mcjung fellow at all related to Marc MacYoung? ;-) Anyway, concerning this matter of Bare-knuckle vs. Gloves, as time goes by I find I wear boxing gloves rather infrequently and when I do I find the variance of the thumb position from what I do bare-knuckled or in MMA gloves disconcerting-- it feels like I am training a bad habit. The Adventure continues, Crafty Dog > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Bareknuckles v. Gloves > Reply-To: > 'cept it was marc mcjung > > On 6/29/06, Steve Ames wrote: >> >> Marc Denny covered this quite thouroughly already. I honestly can't add >> a thing. Good stuff. > -- >> Pat Davies --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:21:32 +0100 From: Ollie Batts To: Subject: [Eskrima] Boxing Glove weights Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In general, glove weights for training can be related to the weight and size of the wearer. In Savate training, for example, we currently use the following weights: 10oz gloves for people who weigh up to 60kgs (9st 6lbs or 132lbs); 12oz gloves for those who weigh between 60-76kgs (nine-and-a-half - 11st 13lbs or 133 - 167lbs); and, 14oz gloves for those 76+kgs (12+st or 168+lbs) Pugil Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:13:27 +0100 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Bareknuckle -v- Gloves Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ive spoken to coaches who train with lighter gloves (12-14oz) and who consider that the heavier gloves can be more dangerous, encourage injury also through the rotator and elbow. Im not saying thats right, but im still looking as to the best weight for training/sparring. I do recall a study several years back so ill do a search to see if there is anything on the web. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Peter Gow" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:43:41 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Short sword or machete Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ken, Steve's statement says choose the weapon most appropriate for the purpose. Galang, Peter Gow --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest