Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:00:39 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #214 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2300 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Arnis=97Sticks_&_Beyond?= (Martial Arts Seminars) 2. Sword and machete (Michael Koblic) 3. Re: Short Sword and Machete Use (John Perrings) 4. Technically speaking (Michael Koblic) 5. Re: Short Sword and Machete Use (Ray) 6. Re: training in Portland (Todd Ellner) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:36:45 -0700 From: "Martial Arts Seminars" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Arnis=97Sticks_&_Beyond?= Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Arnis seminar set at Megamal tempo.com.ph Fil Buena, founder of Buena Mano Fighting System, will hold a seminar on arnis at the 2006 Defense and Sporting Arnis Show Part II on July 14-16 at the SM Megamall in Mandaluyong City. Entitled "Arnis—Sticks & Beyond", the three-day seminar which starts from 2 p.m. to 3:30 p.m., features different fighting techniques based on various martial arts and combative sports. The Buena Mano System came from the Pangasinan sport of ponitian (boxing) depakan (kicking) balsakan (buno) and cinco tiros (arnis). Other martial arts were later incorporated into the system such as judo, jui-jitsu, wrestling, karate, taekwondo. kick boxing, tai-chi, aikido and tetada kalimasada. Buena is also coach of the arnis team to the 2004 World Invitational in Cebu. He has conducted special trainings to police, security agencies and the military. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:53:45 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Sword and machete Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ken Borowiec wrote: "Got it. So if training with Eskrima the best blade to replace it with would be the machete? Due to its shorter range and versatility it can replace the stick with least amount of changes to the motion of attacks used by the stick?" It occurs to me that we have not defined the difference between a machete and a sword with the blade of the same length. The one thing that might make a difference is the handle and presence or absence of handguard. In my very limited experience a good handguard (as in basket hilt Scottish swords or some cutlasses) makes a big difference to how one uses the weapon. I will contend also that fighting with a long blade (which I will arbitrarily define as anything over 18") is a lot different than fighting with a stick. Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:00:54 -0700 (PDT) From: John Perrings Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Short Sword and Machete Use To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net EDGES2 is great :) http://trainingblades.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_28&products_id=37 Best, jp ----- Original Message ---- From: Czar Peralta To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:37:38 PM Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Short Sword and Machete Use Do you know of anywhere that I can purchase a training bolo from? I was just talking with a friend about this the other day. Of course we don't want to train with live blades (not that hardcore) so I was wondering if there are any websites that anyone might know of; or any shops in the Seattle, Washington area. Thanks, Czar On 7/11/06, Ricardo Kayanan wrote: > > Ken, > In a lot of FMA systems the stick is considered the training tool for the > bolo as well as being used as an impact weapon. Since the biomechanics of > using the blade and stickdiffer (as well as targeting and tactics)I > like to train with Aluminum trainers. Or at least use a training tool > that has a resemblance to a blade. This promotes better edge awareness > when drilling. For sparring drills we might use rattan or a soft like > stick. To improve my cutting I use a live blade. > > Gumagalang > Ricardo Kayanan > > >>Got it. So if training with Eskrima the best blade to replace it with > would be > the machete? Due to its shorter range and versatility it can replace the > stick > with least amount of changes to the motion of attacks used by the stick? > > Ken<< > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:23:16 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Technically speaking Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Marc macYoung wrote: "From these two events something clarified in my thinking. Something that I had long sensed but could never quite put my finger on. And that is Bandaras' comment is that of either a total amateur or a master. In both cases, the person's goal is to put the pointy end into the other guy. And that is what he is going to do... come hell or high water. The "art"" Aaaargh! All I was trying to do was have a pleasant academic discourse on a very small albeit important fragment of martial arts with someone who can not only do it but who has thought about it and can articulate it. This should be as far from insult as anything and I am glad you understood it as such. For some reason one can have these discussions with golf or tennis players and these issues never raise their angry head, but try it in MA and all hell breaks loose. I am sorry you had a bad experience. I will not ask if the silat guys met with an untimely accident some months later...:-) The way I look at it is this: Steven Hawking would probably explain the physics of the power punch in terms of science so much better than I ever could. On the other hand I am fairly certain that I can hit harder than Steven Hawking. This, however, does not invalidate his explanations... Back to the discourse, if I may, your point above is presumably identical to Bruce Lee's famous "punch is just a punch" speech. Talking about putting the pointy end into the other guy, the classical fencing teach that you should increase the complexity of your attacks gradually if you do not know your opponent - simple attack, disengage, beat, beat and disengage and so on. A beginner will not appreciate the beauty of your beautiful 4-component attack and skewer you with a simple straight riposte. Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Short Sword and Machete Use To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Do you know of anywhere that I can purchase a training bolo from? I was just > talking with a friend about this the other day. Of course we don't want to > train with live blades (not that hardcore) so I was wondering if there are > any websites that anyone might know of; or any shops in the Seattle, > Washington area. What Mike Inay used to do was have students use a wooden wakizashi. Worked very well for a short stick style like serrada. Cheap, easy to find, and there is a clear edge present to teach edge awareness. But usually made out of a hardwood and therefore doesn't give that little bit you get with rattan. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:22:14 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time) From: "Todd Ellner" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: training in Portland Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net John Daniels (my old JKD teacher) is a very good bet. So is Northwest Fighting Arts which is run by some of Leonard Trigg's very competent students. If Krabi Krabong is your thing Steve Wilson teaches private one-on-one lessons. If you're interested in Silat Stevan Plinck is hard to beat. If you're looking for something a little closer to Portland than Longview we have a practice group that meets on Tuesdays and Saturdays. There's plenty of MMA - Team Quest, Straight Blast, Fight Factory. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest