Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:35:23 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #236 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2300 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Kali Ilustrisimo Seminar - Northern France (Peter Lewis) 2. Re: video clip: knife defense (Andrew Maddox) 3. RE: video clip: knife defense (1@msfencing.org) 4. Musashi sword (Bandile Dlabantu) 5. Re: Dream Sword (Buz Grover) 6. RE: video clip: knife defense (Ken Borowiec) 7. RE: Video clip - knife defense (Danny Anderson) 8. Re: Dream sword (Todd Ellner) 9. RE: Dream sword (Young Forest) 10. RE: video clip: knife defense (John Smith) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:16:56 +0100 From: Peter Lewis Organization: Worcester Eskrima To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Kali Ilustrisimo Seminar - Northern France Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi David Good to hear from you again. Yes, this does promise to be an excellent event. Unfortunately, I cannot attend it because i will be in New Jersey training at the Bakbakan WHQ. Hopefully in time, I can get Guro John and Master Topher to the UK. Bahala na! Very best regards Peter --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:15:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Andrew Maddox To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Willy Lee wrote: > Jye nigma writes: > >> stuff that'll get you killed: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPVwh4ldjfk&search=self%20defense > > She's kinda cute though :) Heh. ;-) Nuf said, I'm an old married geez. But I noticed the clip title *did* say it was "creative" knife self defense. They didn't say it was realistic, practical, effective, or anything like that. Just creative, and I did find some of it quite creative. Like the one pretend kick the defender did, when the guy attacking did that spinning jump/fall backward with great dramatic flair - I found that one especially amusing. Overall, I give it a solid 8.5 for entertainment value. Fun! afm -- Andrew Maddox, madsox2k at freeshell dot org Practitioner of Unaffiliated Martial Arts But really just, like, this guy, y'know? --__--__-- Message: 3 From: <1@msfencing.org> To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:58:08 -0500 Organization: Mississippi Academy of Arms Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I really liked the self-defense video on that site where they teach the women to slap widely at their attacker. I'm sure that would really work in a real situation. :-) Blessings, Rez "Standing guard on old, forgotten roads, that no one travels anymore." The Fencing Master, by Arturo Perez Rez Johnson, M d'A Headmaster: Mississippi Academy of Arms President: United States Traditional Fencing Association Certified Fencing Instructor: (USTFA, TFI, AAI, USFCA) Certified Fencing Master Apprentice: (USTFA, USFCA) Teaching Classical Fencing and Historical Swordsmanship since 1980 Modern Sport Fencing Coach from 1980 - 2002 Teaching cane fighting in Mississippi since 1999 Authorized Goju-Shorei Weapons System Instructor since 2004 Mississippi Academy of Arms P.O. Box 955 Pelahatchie, MS 39145-0955 E-Mail: 1@MSFencing.org Academy Website: http://MSFencing.org USTFA Website: http://TraditionalFencing.org / Mississippi Academy of Arms *//////{<>===========================- \ Virtute et Armis Teaching Fencing in Central Mississippi since 1980 > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Maddox [mailto:madsox2k@freeshell.org] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:16 AM > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Willy Lee wrote: > > > Jye nigma writes: > > > >> stuff that'll get you killed: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPVwh4ldjfk&search=self%20defense > > > > She's kinda cute though :) > > Heh. ;-) Nuf said, I'm an old married geez. > > But I noticed the clip title *did* say it was "creative" knife self > defense. They didn't say it was realistic, practical, effective, or > anything like that. Just creative, and I did find some of it quite > creative. Like the one pretend kick the defender did, when the guy > attacking did that spinning jump/fall backward with great dramatic flair - > I found that one especially amusing. > > Overall, I give it a solid 8.5 for entertainment value. > > Fun! > > afm > > -- > Andrew Maddox, madsox2k at freeshell dot org > Practitioner of Unaffiliated Martial Arts > But really just, like, this guy, y'know? > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:05:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Bandile Dlabantu To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Musashi sword Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Julian I doubt that this was Musashi's sword legend says he used two Boken in his later years. He also lived about 1500-1700 AD, so 7th century is a bit early. I would advise thorough investigation on the blade, can you send me some pics of it? Bandile D. Admire only the diamond that can bear the hits of a hammer - Kabir --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Buz Grover Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:22:37 -0400 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Dream Sword Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Julian writes: > I was in a local antique market a couple of weeks ago - a fairly > upmarket place, and looked throught the window of a war memorabilia > shop. And gasped. > > There was what purported to be a blade owned by - wait for it - > Myamoto > Musashi! You know, I've got a bamboo bridge Musashi built using the very same sword for sale. Cheap. Regards, Buz Grover --__--__-- Message: 6 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:24:54 -0400 From: "Ken Borowiec" To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have heard of this teaching method. It uses the idea that when adrenaline is pumping our motions get shorter and faster. So by being taught exaggerated strikes the student will make normal motions when in a real life situation. I'm not sure but I think this might work with people who do not practice everyday, and just want to learn to defend themselves. Ken -----Original Message----- From: 1@msfencing.org [mailto:1@msfencing.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:58 AM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense I really liked the self-defense video on that site where they teach the women to slap widely at their attacker. I'm sure that would really work in a real situation. :-) Blessings, Rez "Standing guard on old, forgotten roads, that no one travels anymore." The Fencing Master, by Arturo Perez Rez Johnson, M d'A Headmaster: Mississippi Academy of Arms President: United States Traditional Fencing Association Certified Fencing Instructor: (USTFA, TFI, AAI, USFCA) Certified Fencing Master Apprentice: (USTFA, USFCA) Teaching Classical Fencing and Historical Swordsmanship since 1980 Modern Sport Fencing Coach from 1980 - 2002 Teaching cane fighting in Mississippi since 1999 Authorized Goju-Shorei Weapons System Instructor since 2004 Mississippi Academy of Arms P.O. Box 955 Pelahatchie, MS 39145-0955 E-Mail: 1@MSFencing.org Academy Website: http://MSFencing.org USTFA Website: http://TraditionalFencing.org / Mississippi Academy of Arms *//////{<>===========================- \ Virtute et Armis Teaching Fencing in Central Mississippi since 1980 > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Maddox [mailto:madsox2k@freeshell.org] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:16 AM > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Willy Lee wrote: > > > Jye nigma writes: > > > >> stuff that'll get you killed: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPVwh4ldjfk&search=self%20defense > > > > She's kinda cute though :) > > Heh. ;-) Nuf said, I'm an old married geez. > > But I noticed the clip title *did* say it was "creative" knife self > defense. They didn't say it was realistic, practical, effective, or > anything like that. Just creative, and I did find some of it quite > creative. Like the one pretend kick the defender did, when the guy > attacking did that spinning jump/fall backward with great dramatic > flair - I found that one especially amusing. > > Overall, I give it a solid 8.5 for entertainment value. > > Fun! > > afm > > -- > Andrew Maddox, madsox2k at freeshell dot org Practitioner of > Unaffiliated Martial Arts But really just, like, this guy, y'know? > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard > disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Danny Anderson" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:56:05 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Video clip - knife defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Message: 4 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net, itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net stuff that'll get you killed:    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPVwh4ldjfk&search=self%20defense Oh my goodness!!! Yours, Dan Anderson --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:34:23 -0700 From: Todd Ellner To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Dream sword Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Bull. Crap. Don't be an idiot. If it really were what he says he wouldn't be selling it at a glorified flea market. It would be in Japan right now being polished at $1000/inch. Parties would be given in its honor. People would be discreetly bidding several unchristly amounts of money. --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Young Forest" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:57:12 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Dream sword Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >From: "Gilmour, Julian" >Any ideas on how can I find out if it is authentic? How much should it >cost? (It wasn't in great condition and I don't think it came with a >scabbard) The short answer is, if a sword owned by Musashi is in an antiques market, it ain't authentic. The vastly overwhelming majority of swords were made by smiths nobody has ever heard of, wielded by warriors that nobody has ever heard of. A connoisseur of katanas could probably tell you much by examining it - which province it was likely made in, and in what general time period. On those occasions where the tang is signed you might also find out who made it, what year and possibly even who owned it. Badger Siling Labuyo Arnis www.youngforest.ca --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "John Smith" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:00:56 -0400 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The biggest problem with these classes is the false sense of security they provide- sure learning something to defend themselves is better than nothing, but too often people come out of these seminars thinking they are safe to walk through "the mean city streets" and that's where the problem comes... just my two cents >From: "Ken Borowiec" >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >To: >Subject: RE: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense >Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:24:54 -0400 > >I have heard of this teaching method. It uses the idea that when >adrenaline is pumping our motions get shorter and faster. So by being >taught exaggerated strikes the student will make normal motions when in >a real life situation. > >I'm not sure but I think this might work with people who do not practice >everyday, and just want to learn to defend themselves. > > >Ken > >-----Original Message----- >From: 1@msfencing.org [mailto:1@msfencing.org] >Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:58 AM >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: RE: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense > >I really liked the self-defense video on that site where they teach the >women to slap widely at their attacker. I'm sure that would really work >in a real situation. :-) > >Blessings, >Rez > >"Standing guard on old, forgotten roads, that no one travels anymore." >The Fencing Master, by Arturo Perez > >Rez Johnson, M d'A >Headmaster: Mississippi Academy of Arms > >President: United States Traditional Fencing Association Certified >Fencing Instructor: (USTFA, TFI, AAI, USFCA) Certified Fencing Master >Apprentice: (USTFA, USFCA) Teaching Classical Fencing and Historical >Swordsmanship since 1980 Modern Sport Fencing Coach from 1980 - 2002 >Teaching cane fighting in Mississippi since 1999 Authorized Goju-Shorei >Weapons System Instructor since 2004 > >Mississippi Academy of Arms >P.O. Box 955 >Pelahatchie, MS 39145-0955 > >E-Mail: 1@MSFencing.org >Academy Website: http://MSFencing.org >USTFA Website: http://TraditionalFencing.org > > > / Mississippi Academy of Arms >*//////{<>===========================- > \ Virtute et Armis > >Teaching Fencing in Central Mississippi since 1980 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrew Maddox [mailto:madsox2k@freeshell.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:16 AM > > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] video clip: knife defense > > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Willy Lee wrote: > > > > > Jye nigma writes: > > > > > >> stuff that'll get you killed: > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPVwh4ldjfk&search=self%20defense > > > > > > She's kinda cute though :) > > > > Heh. ;-) Nuf said, I'm an old married geez. > > > > But I noticed the clip title *did* say it was "creative" knife self > > defense. They didn't say it was realistic, practical, effective, or > > anything like that. Just creative, and I did find some of it quite > > creative. Like the one pretend kick the defender did, when the guy > > attacking did that spinning jump/fall backward with great dramatic > > flair - I found that one especially amusing. > > > > Overall, I give it a solid 8.5 for entertainment value. > > > > Fun! > > > > afm > > > > -- > > Andrew Maddox, madsox2k at freeshell dot org Practitioner of > > Unaffiliated Martial Arts But really just, like, this guy, y'know? > > _______________________________________________ > > Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard > > disclaimers apply > > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard >disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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