Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:59:52 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #257 - 2 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. East meetsWwest (Michael Koblic) 2. Re: East meets West: Never the twain shall meet! (Wieneke, Myron) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:30:13 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] East meetsWwest Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Rez wrote: "Weapon strength is a very important criterion in determining quality and usefulness on the battlefield. It's awfully embarrassing to get your sword broke in a battle, not to mention dangerous. Which would YOU rather be holding in a battle, the broken katana or the German Longsword which just broke through it and your head?" A valid point. However, as a criterion of what is a "superior" weapon I would have thought it limited. The said 10-cent iron bar will certainly superior to the said katana in that respect, but as a means of cutting someone's head off it has many limitations. Which is why in my original post I prefaced the comment by "leaving aside the question of the weapon quality." It is a quagmire I do not wish to enter. Having just spent a couple of hours reading the links kindly provided in the previous ED, I saw 97% opinion and about 3% fact (as far as I could tell). My personal experience with big edged weapons could be written on a rice grain with frosting. Which is why I prefer to... leave this question aside :-) Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Wieneke, Myron" To: "'eskrima@martialartsresource.net'" Subject: Re: [Eskrima] East meets West: Never the twain shall meet! Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:36:36 +0100 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Strength is not the only criteria for a weapon, each sword type has its intended purpose. First of all the assumption that the longsword could break a katana is just that, an assumption. In a real fight would you hold the kantana in a way that would let the heavier sword break it in half or would you be using ranging and your speed to avoid or deflect? Given that katanas a lot lighter than the longsword so while your raising your longsword overhead, the guy with the samurai is slicing your belly open... My 2 cents. Peace. ------Original Message------ From: 1@msfencing.org To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net ReplyTo: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sent: Aug 10, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: [Eskrima] East meets West: Never the twain shall meet! > Rez wrote: > "I would think a German Longsword could easily break a katana in half." > Michael wrote; > So could a 10-cent iron bar. Is that really a good criterion to compare > weapon quality? Weapon strength is a very important criterion in determining quality and usefulness on the battlefield. It's awfully embarrassing to get your sword broke in a battle, not to mention dangerous. Which would YOU rather be holding in a battle, the broken katana or the German Longsword which just broke through it and your head? Blessings, Rez "Standing guard on old, forgotten roads, that no one travels anymore." The Fencing Master, by Arturo Perez Rez Johnson, M d'A Headmaster: Mississippi Academy of Arms President: United States Traditional Fencing Association Certified Fencing Instructor: (USTFA, TFI, AAI, USFCA) Certified Fencing Master Apprentice: (USTFA, USFCA) Teaching Classical Fencing and Historical Swordsmanship since 1980 Modern Sport Fencing Coach from 1980 - 2002 Teaching cane fighting in Mississippi since 1999 Authorized Goju-Shorei Weapons System Instructor since 2004 Mississippi Academy of Arms P.O. 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