Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:59:46 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #272 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. re: tournament (michael s) 2. Toe caps (Ollie Batts) 3. Sparring or Fighting? (Marc Denny) 4. e-book "Mindanao Jottings" (jay de leon) 5. Cacoy inducted (Eskrima-FMA) 6. Re: East, West and Mongols (Ruel Apostol) 7. Re: Sparring or Fighting? (Pierre Honeyman) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:46:59 -0700 (PDT) From: michael s To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] re: tournament Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net hello everyone, i'd like to announce an upcoming event. October 21, 2006 an exciting event is taking place. i'm announcing a cosponsored event by the World Martial Arts Union & World Serrada Escrima Federation. this event will consist of almost 150 divisions. the divisions will include traditional forms, creative forms, & kumite. this event will also include "exhibition point stick sparring divisions" & "continuous fighting divisions". divisions will be ... beginning, intermediate & advanced, with appropriate weight classes. in coming years this event will be a qualifying event for a national and a international circuit of stick sparring events. these are not "family art" specific stick fighting divisions; all are welcome to compete. preregistration is available imediately ... email all requests for registration information to admin@defensivecombat.com. i look forward to seeing everyone. my respects, mike --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:32:24 +0100 From: Ollie Batts To: Subject: [Eskrima] Toe caps Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Bill, Originally, 'Savate' was simply a street slang term - meaning literally 'old shoe' or 'old boot'. It was used by yobs and street thugs to describe their manner of fighting, whilst wearing their everyday footwear. An old shoe (in the late 17 and early 1800's) would have been made of stout leather, and have hard leather soles. Anyone, even today, knows that leather soles can have steel mini horseshoe type protectors hammered into the soles, especially at the heel and the toe, to reduce the wear of those areas. The modern-day steel toe cap is fitted into the shoe to protect the toes of the wearer. Industrial workers are often required to wear such shoes. I don't really believe that the olden-day Parisienne street thugs wore that kind of industrial type of shoe. But if you can imagine someone kicking with leather soled Oxford type brogue, even one of today's models, made by Loake, Trickers, Barkers, etc., you will realise they can do the job rather nicely, with or without the addition of the little steel horseshoes. Ollie (aka Pugil) From: "Bill Lowery" To: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:32:20 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Toe caps Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Ollie, Just a quick ?. Did the savateurs shoes have steel toecaps or were they just very hard toe caps? Bill --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:26:46 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Sparring or Fighting? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: In the recent comments about what we do, I've noticed the word "sparring" applied. FWIW by my lights we have more than earned the word "fighting". The Adventure continues, Crafty Dog --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:34:13 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] e-book "Mindanao Jottings" Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all: My book about my experiences in Mindanao is now available. It is in e-book form titled “Mindanao Jottings.” It is available at the online store at www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com or www.tipunan.com. As an added bonus for a limited time, when you purchase this e-book you get another e-book titled “Philippine Odyssey 2006” which documents the 3rd World FMA Festival 2006 and other events of my trip to the Philippines, with about 200 original pictures. For those not familiar with “Mindanao Jottings,” here is a blurb about the book. “A few years out of college, Jay de Leon traded a corporate job as a junior executive in an American pharmaceutical firm in Makati, the Philippine commercial district, for the rough-and–tumble life of road construction work in rebel-infested Mindanao in the southern Philippines. In “Mindanao Jottings,” Jay gives us a historical as well as a personal glimpse of those turbulent times in the 70’s. Interspersed are well-known events in Philippine history such as the declaration of Martial Law and the Christian versus Moslem armed conflicts of the times, with institutional problems such as graft and corruption and political violence, along with religious and social mores of the times involving love, sex and relationships.” Any questions, please contact me. Thank you. Jay de Leon 951-834-3386 --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:03:24 -0700 From: Eskrima-FMA To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Cacoy inducted Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ten Pioneers inducted into the Official Martial Arts Hall of Fame LOS ANGELES, CA, (NAMC) - Each year the Martial Arts History Museum is proud to induct ten new individuals into the most prestigious level of the martial arts, the official Martial Arts Hall of Fame. After a six-month nomination and voting process, the previous Hall members have selected the following ten individuals: Ark Y. Wong, an instructor who opened the doors for non-Chinese to learn the Chinese art of Kung Fu. Wen Mei Yu, who became instrumental in spreading the art of Tai Chi, Qi Gong. Wally Jay, a pioneer in introducing Jiu Jitsu throughout the world and enlightening the art through his small circle system. Lily Lau, as the successor of the art, brought the Chinese art of Eagle Claw to America. Cacoy Cante, a pioneer in introducing Kali/Escrima throughout the world and opening the doors of this art to a new generation. Brendan Lai, who became the focal point in bringing Tai Mantis kung fu to the Western world. Toshishiro Obata, who championed creating new ways of practicing sword cutting with the utilization of tatami mat slicing and upholding traditional sword teachings. Buck Sam Kong, a leader in the Hung Gar system and not only was the first to open the doors to non-Chinese in Hawaii, but became instrumental in spreading Hung Gar in America. Miyamoto Musashi, one of the most honored Samurai's of his generation who created such masterpieces as the Book of Five Rings. Leo Fong, who in the early days of the arts, began transforming Kung Fu with a more physical, weight training approach that appealed to many non-martial artists and opened the doors to new methods of exercise with the arts. The Museum's Martial Arts Hall of Fame is the pinnacle of an artist's career. A video of their martial arts life will be created by the Museum and included in the Hall of Fame Wall at the facility so that generations from today can learn about the great pioneers of yesteryear. "Creating a Hall that most people will appreciate is difficult, that is why I did not want the Museum to select them. Rather, it is up to the previous Hall of Famers to nominate and induct the next generation of pioneers," notes Museum founder Michael Matsuda. In addition to the Hall of Fame, the Museum founder has the honor of casting a single vote in selecting the "Funakoshi Award" winner. Named after Japanese pioneer Gichon Funakoshi, this award is the "Contributors Award" and is given to an individual who is recognized for their contributions to the arts, rather than their martial arts skill. "This year I was proud to select an individual who even though has made his mark in the last decade, but its impact has made such a significant difference that everyone today is benefiting from his contribution," notes Matsuda. "This year I am proud to induct the 'father of martial arts on the Internet,' Fariborz Azhakh. Though only a quarter-century old, a computerized form of technology changed the way people gathered information and communicated. By creating innovative ways of research, Azhakh created a series of websites which enabled locating studios and researching martial arts information. With such innovations as Martialinfo.com (the world's biggest martial arts website), Yoga411.com, establishing the first online management system, creating a truly functional online directory, a martial arts search engine and the first successful online magazine, Azhakh has made an immediate impact for the arts. On October 14, 2006, the Martial Arts History Museum will be presenting the Museum Ceremony into which a number of this year's inductees will be formally recognized into the Hall of Fame. Able to attend this year's event include Wally Jay, Wen Mei Yu, Toshishiro Obata, Buck Sam Kong and Ark Y. Wong (his grandson Seming will be accepting on his behalf). Called the "Oscars" of the martial arts, each inductee will be properly honored with a video display of their entire martial arts career. The inductee is then celebrated on stage and presented "the Sammy," the Museum Statue for their accomplishments. "This is the most prestigious presentation of any martial artist's career. The Museum doesn't just hand the person their award and that's it, but the Museum takes the time to honor them properly with a whole display about their martial arts life for their family and friends to enjoy and for others to learn about them," states Matsuda. "This ceremony provides that one last time to show our appreciation for their efforts." The Museum Ceremony, which is now in its sixth year, will be held at the Madrid Theatre in Canoga Park, CA. Doors will open at 4:00 pm, and the ceremony will begin at 5:00 pm and be topped off with a buffet dinner immediately following. Tickets costs are $100 per adult and children 16 & under for $50. Tickets costs are tax-deductible. In addition to the presentations, attendees will enjoy a first time theatrical performance on the "History of the Martial Arts." The play will cover how the martial arts was created, how it came to America and where it is today. For information on the event, please visit their website at www.MAmuseum.com, email info@MAmuseum.com or call 818 355-1109. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:44:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ruel Apostol Subject: Re: [Eskrima] East, West and Mongols To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net did the mongols reach rome? and... what really happened to them? i mean... in the end. bgdebuque wrote: Ha, ha,... Of course, it would be stretching it a bit to claim that the Mongols got driven out of Java because of Pencak Silat. On the contrary, what I was trying to imply is that the Javanese, the main practitioners of Pencak Silat, must know the business of fighting because they were only one of two armies who were able to defeat the Mongols in battle (the other group was the ancestors of present-day Egyptians). Taken against the backdrop of Western and Eastern armies who succumbed to Mongol military prowess at that time, to me, this was an incredible feat. BTW, religion can be excluded as a factor because, at that time, the primary Javenese religion is still a mixture of Buddhism and Hinduism, and not yet Islam. Message: 5 > From: "Marc MacYoung" > To: > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:47:11 -0600 > Subject: [Eskrima] East, West and Mongols > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > > The Mongols also tasted defeat at the hands of the Javanese... > > > > It seems that Pencak Silat also has glorious roots... > > Ummm... on my book shelf I have books by Lamb, Grousset and a number of > others. In college I was a history major with a specialty on the nomadic > tribes of Central Asia. History and warfare is more complex than many > people > in the martial arts want it to be. The overall consensus is that weather, > > disease, environment, terrain, hoof rot, parasites and the strains of the > temperature on the men and horses bred for extreme cold is considered what > forced the Mongols to turn back from the whole of South East Asia... not > the > fighting arts they encountered there. When your troops and horses are all > sick, dead or dying, it's time to pull back. > > http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/mongols/china/china4_a.htm Columbia > University is a pretty solid source. If you can come up with a better > source on how the deadly fighting arts of the natives were what caused > them > to withdraw, I'd love to hear it. > M _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima www.unitedprimebuilders.com learn a filipino martial art and be proud of it: www.academialsa.littlebadboy.net --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:44:33 -0700 From: Pierre Honeyman To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Sparring or Fighting? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Quoting Marc Denny : > Woof All: > > In the recent comments about what we do, I've noticed the word "sparring" > applied. > > FWIW by my lights we have more than earned the word "fighting". I don't think that it's only intensity that defines what a "fight" is though. Mindset is also vital. Pierre --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest