Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:27:18 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #296 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2300 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. large diameter rope for striking drills? (James Wilson) 2. Re: large diameter rope for striking drills? (Tom) 3. FMA Liability Insurance Providers (Alex.France@kp.org) 4. RE: large diameter rope for striking drills? (Joseph Marana) 5. Euro Dog Brothers Gathering of the Pack (Marc Denny) 6. Seattle schools (Ed Peregrino) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:42:32 -0500 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: James Wilson Subject: [Eskrima] large diameter rope for striking drills? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Years ago I was at someone's school on the East Coast of the US (don't remember who's school it was) for a seminar, and they had large diameter rope hanging up to practice striking drills. The rope was probably about 2 - 3 inches in diameter. It was thick and heavy enough to stike hard, but also absorbed most of the blow so you could strike it pretty rapidly without your stick getting tangled. Has anyone see this before? If you have, do you know the dimension of the rope and what kind of rope is used? We have alot of supply companies down here in New Orleans that carry pretty thick rope for use on oil rigs and shipping industries, so I can probably find something suitable. Just looking to see if anyone remembers this or has had experience using this kind of thing thanks, James --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Tom" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] large diameter rope for striking drills? Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 08:29:42 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Years ago I was at someone's school on the East Coast of the US (don't > remember who's school it was) for a seminar, and they had large diameter > rope hanging up to practice striking drills. The rope was probably about > 2 - 3 inches in diameter. It was thick and heavy enough to stike hard, > but also absorbed most of the blow so you could strike it pretty rapidly > without your stick getting tangled. > > Has anyone see this before? If you have, do you know the dimension of the > rope and what kind of rope is used? We have alot of supply companies down > here in New Orleans that carry pretty thick rope for use on oil rigs and > shipping industries, so I can probably find something suitable. Just > looking to see if anyone remembers this or has had experience using this > kind of thing > > thanks, > James Interesting. Does anyone know of a DVD or book of FMA drills? Drills that are not system specific would be great. tom --__--__-- Message: 3 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Alex.France@kp.org Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:38:27 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] FMA Liability Insurance Providers Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Good morning, Marc. Thank you for your quick reply: >>Larry Lindberg a Farmers Brothers Insurance agent of Torrance, Ca has assisted me with insurance for martial art seminars this area. His e-mail is Maji11@aol.com. His Office phone is 310-533-0359. He is good honest guy for business. He will help you get the best price by shopping around. He has done good for me and my family many times. --Marc Lawrence<< And thank you for the referral. I emailed Larry and the Executive Board of USFMAF, cc you. Alex(ander Bautista Bayot France) --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:35:57 -0700 From: "Joseph Marana" Subject: RE: [Eskrima] large diameter rope for striking drills? To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net James, Was it Bakbakan HQ? I seem to remember seeing pictures of something like that and I believe it was there. Joe -----Original Message----- From: James Wilson [mailto:james.a.wilson@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:43 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] large diameter rope for striking drills? Years ago I was at someone's school on the East Coast of the US (don't remember who's school it was) for a seminar, and they had large diameter rope hanging up to practice striking drills. The rope was probably about 2 - 3 inches in diameter. It was thick and heavy enough to stike hard, but also absorbed most of the blow so you could strike it pretty rapidly without your stick getting tangled. Has anyone see this before? If you have, do you know the dimension of the rope and what kind of rope is used? We have alot of supply companies down here in New Orleans that carry pretty thick rope for use on oil rigs and shipping industries, so I can probably find something suitable. Just looking to see if anyone remembers this or has had experience using this kind of thing thanks, James _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2300 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:39:39 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Euro Dog Brothers Gathering of the Pack Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The Coming of "the Dog Brothers" to Europe By Marc "Crafty Dog" Denny ONE I am often asked about our name, "the Dog Brothers." It can be explained on many levels, but one of my favorite ways of looking at it can be found in a newspaper article by one Jeff McMahon: "Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication." I think that's right. The dog is the interface of man and the wolf and we can connect so strongly because our dynamics are so similar. Even as we humans change the wolf into the dog to suit our purposes, we still need its glimmer as wolf. In some breeds, and in certain individual dogs, the glimmer is brighter than others, and that is why you see an Akita named Zapata in our logo. I know the Dog Brothers have a good reputation for airing it out pretty well, but we know what we do is well short of death matches of yore in the Philippines, a policeman going into an abandoned building after a bad guy or those who step forward to stop hooligans, mobs, or religious fascists. It is important not to take ourselves too seriously, and I like the way the quote captures a certain perspective-- we are not wolves, we are but human dogs. Still, it is important to be aware of something else too. Yes we are but dogs, and just like dogs we have territory, hierarchy, and squabbles over females. But there is something more. There is also the bond of the pack. In humans we call this the tribe. The bond and aggression go hand in hand. ALL animals with individual relationships (wolves, monkeys, geese, dogs, humans etc.) also have aggression. Animals lacking the ability to discriminate between other members of their species, e.g. minnows do not. The presence of aggression does not always mean that there is a bond with other individuals, but a bond with other individuals always means there is aggression. Aggression is an instinct, even as sex is an instinct. And just as a man eventually will have a nocturnal emission in the absence of sex, so too aggression will discharge eventually even in the absence of suitable reason. All efforts at eliminating aggression by removing its "causes" and/or its triggers are inherently doomed. Indeed, to the extent that the efforts to eliminate the eliciting stimuli of aggression succeed in delaying the discharge, the greater the eventual discharge becomes and the time and place of the discharge becomes less predictable and thus far more dangerous! As is so often the case in life, the law of unintended consequences is the rule. We need to understand aggression and to channel its expression in healthy, productive and moral ways. Aggression exists throughout Nature. Why? Aggression has three purposes in nature. The first is to spread a species out over territory so as to not overload an eco-system. In humans this is sometimes known as War. The second is for rank within the hierarchy of a social group. Unlike the Anonymous Horde of a school of minnows, individual members of the group can distinguish each other. All social groups have hierarchy. And the third is for reproduction. Classically this means two males fighting over the female, but it also means the female defending her young. If there is no social unit, e.g. Siamese fighting fish, it does not matter that the loser dies, only that the winner breeds. In contrast, in social animals, there is a strong biological benefit if the second and third types of aggression do not damage the loser. This is so that the social unit, (the pack/the tribe), which exists precisely because of its survival value for the species, remains strong. Most martial arts are usually of the second type of aggression, with overtones of the third: Young males competing. In contrast, the Filipino Martial Arts originate in the first form of aggression, in war. Thus there is a quality of cooperation in the learning process of the FMA that can be distinctive. How so? If, as a tribe we are going to defend our land, women and children, it is in our respective individual interests that the other warriors of the tribe become good fighters as well. If I push you too hard and break your spirit, it does not serve my interests. If I push you too little and you are soft, it also does not serve my interests. And the same applies with you for me. TWO The Dog Brothers are not a pyramid with one Alpha at the peak. Instead the "governing body" of the Dog Brothers tribe is "The Council of Elders" which consists of the three founders now so-called because we are old: Top Dog (title: The Fighting Force); Salty Dog (title: The Silent Force) and yours truly (title: The Guiding Force). No money is involved in the Dog Brothers. Although many Dog Brothers train in Dog Brothers Martial Arts (DBMA), this is not necessary-- anyone of the right values from any background is eligible to become a Dog Brother. We look for people who manifest that of which they are capable. A person of ordinary gifts who manifests his gifts with Dog Brother spirit will be accepted whereas we will pass by someone who is genetically gifted but lacks the understanding of what we are about: "Higher Consciousness through Harder Contact"©. Since our founding in 1988 with three consecutive day long days of fighting known in our lore as "the Rumble at Ramblas" (each man there averaged 20 fights over the three days), the Dog Brothers tribe has grown gradually. With our recognition we certainly could have grown much more and much faster but to do so would have risked dilution and diminishment of what we are about. Our tribe is real and requires real human connection. We've had many people fight with us and profess their desire to be one of us, yet after one or two days of fighting we don't see them again. We've had a few people fight with us and seek to use it as a vehicle of self-promotion. These we don't want-nor do we want those who do not understand our code of "Be friends at the end of the day". This means we need time to get to know someone, time to smell him and get to know what he is about. Over time we have come to use the following framework: A minimum of fighting at two of our "Dog Brothers Gathering of the Pack" is necessary before someone is eligible to become a member of the tribe when someone in the tribe speaks in his behalf to the Council of Elders. If he is accepted in our parlance be becomes "a Dog". When someone begins to manifest that special level we look for in a full "Dog Brother", then they become a "Candidate Dog Brother". If he maintains this level for three Gatherings and expresses that of which he is capable, he becomes a Dog Brother. Thus, the shortest amount of time it takes to be a Dog Brother is five Gatherings. In that we hold our Gatherings twice a year this has meant the whole process requires a minimum of two and a half years-- which is a considerable amount of time to maintain this level of fighting. THREE Even with the financial burdens that travel to our home in Hermosa Beach (Los Angeles) California entails, the Dog Brother tribe can be found throughout the United States, Canada and even Europe (at present in Switzerland, Italy and Great Britain). And because of this financial burden I have often heard requests from those who would dearly love to get involved that we hold "Dog Brothers Gatherings" beyond our home. I am pleased that our efforts in holding a DB Gathering make it look easy. That said there is far more to holding one of our Gatherings than meets the eye. (If I make it to old age perhaps I will tell some of the behind-the-scenes stories in my memoirs!) To have that much testosterone from so many different groups (not just different martial arts groups, but also different social and ethnic groups) in one place with security a matter of an honor code is a really good trick. And so, for reasons explainable and inexplicable, I have kept our Gatherings exclusively here where I live and can steer them to maintaining their special quality-- until now. Benjamin Rittiner of Bern, Switzerland first came to me with two students for a week of training in 1997. Since then he has trained with me diligently and sedulously in Europe and at my home in Hermosa Beach. He has assisted me at countless seminars and assisted me in many of our DVDs. He has brought character, integrity, and talent to the process and he has become a close friend (his Cornelia and son Robin too!) and I have taught him as a son and should something happen to me he will do the same for mine when the time comes should mine be so inclined. He is the only man that I have promoted to "Guro" in Dog Brothers Martial Arts. He heads up DBMA in Europe and is the only person I have authorized to present seminars in Europe. And with my authorization he recently taught a DVD on DBMA for Budo International. And now by unanimous vote of the Council of Elders (the governing body of the Dog Brothers) he has become a member of the Council of Elders. During this time he has become one of the most highly respected of all the Dog Brothers. He fights seemingly without fear and with tremendous technical excellence (no student applies more of what I have taught than him) and shows the highest levels of true Dog Brothers spirit in his fighting. People often comment to me after a Gathering that they thought he was "the best man there". I go into this detail to make clear the depth of the connection which I believe is necessary for the next step in the Adventure of the Dog Brothers-to have someone there capable on all the many levels necessary of anchoring an additional "Dog Brothers Gathering of the Pack". This Gathering will be held once a year in Bern, Switzerland and will be held for the first time on Sunday October 1, 2006. I will continue to be there to serve as Guiding Force and as "ringmaster". In respect of the importance of this special moment in the history of the Dog Brothers tribe, also there to witness will be co-Founder Eric "Top Dog" Knaus. Arlan "Salty Dog" Sanford intended to come, but business matters have intervened. Top Dog looks forward to the opportunity to use his German (and some Norwegian!) "Higher Consciousness through Harder Contact"© ! Crafty Dog Guiding Force of The Dog Brothers ========== A Howl to All: Registered fighters so far-- a special howl to Dog Rog of the US who seems a shoo-in for the "Long Distance Award"! The Adventure continues Crafty Dog Guiding Force ========================== Benjamin "Lonely Dog" Rittiner Switzerland "Dog" Roger Tinkoff USA Oli Schär Switzerland Rüdiger Finkhaus Germany Simon Hehl Switzerland Daniel Budar Germany Jérôme Rey Switzerland Graeme Higgins Scotland, UK Sibylle Frei Switzerland Gerry Gasey Scotland, UK Roberto Petrucci Switzerland Colin Stewart UK Stefan Konstanjevec Germany Lynn Brown UK Jochen Giese Germany Jiri Söderblom Sweden Marcus Schillinger Germany Emin Sabovic Sweden Torben Lorenian Germany Lars R. Christie Norway Christian Eckert Germany Pascal Gilles France Andreas Hommel Germany Ludovic Bachy Belgium Jörg Beier Germany Mick Colin Belgium Andy Michels Germany Tomesz Jurkiewicz Poland Detlef Thiem Germany Michael Szczepanski Poland Dennis Gluska Germany Marcin Gebler Poland Christan von Praun Germany Arkadiusz Kortas Poland Markus Matioschat Germany Marco Pohlmann Germany Markus Weinaud Germany Jörg Reichmann Germany --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Ed Peregrino" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:45:12 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Seattle schools Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi David, In regards to your inquiry about FMA schools in Seattle, there are actually quite a few.  Depends on how far you want to drive or if you prefer certain style/systems, here are the ones that I know. Hufana Traditional Arnis International - Bellevue, WA www.arnisador.com LESKAS (the late Maestro Elmer Ybanez' group), Seattle, WA - Guro Chris Turla **They don't have a website but email me directly and I can send you Guro Turla's contact information. Minnesota Kali Group, Seattle, WA - www.crowsmartialarts.com I would say visit and check out the schools.  They are all good, just all depends on what you are looking for.  I actually belong to PG Hufana's group in Bellevue, WA.  So if you want to know more about him or his system, just go the the website or email me directly.   Gumagalang, Edwin Peregrino edwinperegrino@comcast.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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