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Re: Re: Fighting - Annual LA Open Full Contact Stick Fighting (jay de leon) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Al Sardinas" To: Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:43:29 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Fighting - Annual LA Open Full Contact Stick Fighting Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ray, first of all, thanks for bringing the list back up. Cold turkey does not do me well. Regarding the rules of the Annual LA Open Full Contact Stick Fighting Tournament being held in December, they serve a purpose. I attended this event back in 2004 and indeed this event is a full contact stick fighting event and Mr. Klimanis is right that this "a fun tournament in which fighters spar to exhaustion". However, let me provide more info on this full contact stick fighting Padded competition. This event is geared for the whole family. The competitors are both female and male with ages ranging from elementary students to college students to just plain adults. The spectators consists of moms and dads, brothers and sisters, lolos and lolas and everybody else. Therefore, the rules of no punching, grappling, thrusting, abusive language, spitting, etc. are most appropriate. This tournament is well attended and draws a diversified group of FMA systems. Events like this one ensure that there will be a Filipino brotherhood today and tomorrow. As the competitors mature in both age and skill, they will be able to make their choice to participate in more so-called hard core events. So rate this event G: General Admission - good event for the entire family. Also, Mr. Arola, I have seen many clips that you have produced and IMHO, the participants lack real-world stick fighting experience. However, I do enjoy the music. Then again, I could also be completely wrong. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of the Garimot System of Arnis --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:44:00 -0800 (PST) From: Manny California Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Fighting - Annual LA Open Full Contact Stick Fighting To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello, Will someone please provide me information as to when this event will take place. I would like to attend and meet the players. Manuel Al Sardinas wrote: Ray, first of all, thanks for bringing the list back up. Cold turkey does not do me well. Regarding the rules of the Annual LA Open Full Contact Stick Fighting Tournament being held in December, they serve a purpose. I attended this event back in 2004 and indeed this event is a full contact stick fighting event and Mr. Klimanis is right that this "a fun tournament in which fighters spar to exhaustion". However, let me provide more info on this full contact stick fighting Padded competition. This event is geared for the whole family. The competitors are both female and male with ages ranging from elementary students to college students to just plain adults. The spectators consists of moms and dads, brothers and sisters, lolos and lolas and everybody else. Therefore, the rules of no punching, grappling, thrusting, abusive language, spitting, etc. are most appropriate. This tournament is well attended and draws a diversified group of FMA systems. Events like this one ensure that there will be a Filipino brotherhood today and tomorrow. As the competitors mature in both age and skill, they will be able to make their choice to participate in more so-called hard core events. So rate this event G: General Admission - good event for the entire family. Also, Mr. Arola, I have seen many clips that you have produced and IMHO, the participants lack real-world stick fighting experience. However, I do enjoy the music. Then again, I could also be completely wrong. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of the Garimot System of Arnis _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2400 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 06:46:27 -0800 From: Eskrima-FMA To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Training like the pros Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Training like the pros from policeone.com Due to the physical restraints of our work schedules and extra curricular activities (having a life), maintaining one's fitness is time consuming. What usually happens is that a haphazard approach is taken towards physical conditioning. Taking five minutes to plan a program will ensure economical use of your spare time. Rather than trying to reinvent the wheel, why not use principles already proven in the professional sports arena, that of periodization. Basically, periodization (a really good book to get is "Periodization Training for Sports" by Tudor Bompa. Other books on this subject can be found at www.humankinetics.com) explains how to break down the year into periods of rest and training. However, this is usually geared towards peak performance of the athletes to coincide with certain times of the year for tournaments. Unfortunately, in law enforcement, the option or the luxury to choose a time to be at our peak performance is rarely decided by the peace officer. More often than not the choice is made by the perpetrator of a crime, which suggests that law enforcement officers should be at their peak 24/7. Training at 100% all of the time would eventually be counterproductive (repetitive stress injury, joint problems, muscle strains and interrupted sleep patterns are common ailments), but we can adapt the periodization plan to allow us to train in a manner to be highly adaptable and still be able to have a life. The year is broken down into various subsections: A macro cycle, a meso cycle and a micro cycle. A macro cycle is one year, a meso is a quarter and a micro is one week. Each meso is divided into twelve micro cycles; these micro cycles are usually grouped into five working weeks and one week of active rest (Hill climbing, walking and swimming, something other than your normal routine). Each week (micro cycle) will increase in intensity towards the end of week five. Week six, or the micro cycle of active rest, allows our bodies to rest and repair effectively. Active rest for one week will not be detrimental to your routine. Yes you may feel like you have lost a bit of fitness, but in reality the potential gained is similar to having the chance to run up for a jump. So, the second part of the meso cycle will see better gains, with less chance of injury. If injured, more than one week's rest could be required. While I am on this subject of rest, training through an injury can be done by concentrating on other body areas not affected by the injury, but do so in a manner which will not stress the body too much. A light regime will suffice. However, training whilst infected by a virus or bacteria could be life threatening as the body needs all of its defenses concentrated on fighting the illness. I have spoken to several doctors over the years and they assure me that if training is continued, the illness can work its way to other organs of your body, which makes it harder to cure. So, if you have the flu, don't try to sweat it out in a sauna or go for a run. Just REST. If you have a broken leg, work your torso and other leg when you feel able to do so. As I mentioned in my previous article, using functional fitness movements for warm ups will allow us to be more efficient and grove desired motor skills. These skills could be simple takedowns as a single person drill (form), strikes and kicks or draw from an imaginary holster and move off the line stepping drills. This still remains the most economical use of our time for a warm up, practical to tactical baby (ok, not my quote. Still sounds good though). Over the continuing cycles, demonstrated in the periodization table, we can concentrate on developing strength, endurance and flexibility by using different types of training methods such as the Swiss ball (core), Aquatics and traditional weight training for each meso cycle. The basic movements or exercises will not change (the similar motions will always be used as the human body can only move in so many ways). The thing that will change will be the stability of the training platform, the environment, along with the time taken to complete a repetition or set. By changing the routines and training methods we are able to stress our bodies in a manner which will slightly differ each time. This will allow us to maintain an adequate state of fitness without incurring injuries. A change is as good as a rest, the old adage remains true. (If you are unsure always contact a professional or, if you have time, seek the information readily available on the internet or in print...you know, those things we used to have in school...erm, oh yea, Books!) --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 07:25:01 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Arola Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Fighting - Annual LA Open Full Contact Stick Fighting To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net So rate this event G: General Admission - good event for the entire family. Also, Mr. Arola, I have seen many clips that you have produced and IMHO, the participants lack real-world stick fighting experience. However, I do enjoy the music. Then again, I could also be completely wrong. Respectfully, Al Sardinas You are actually right, Al. Even though the participants in my videos were well-experienced in real-world combat from deployment overseas, they still do not have as much real-world FMA exposure. In fact, they were always interested in learning FMA and when they found out I was actively teaching "stickfighting" just down the road from Ft Bragg they came and I don't think I could think of any group of students who could parallell their enthusiasm. As their instructor, I did not focus too much on the "art" aspect of FMA but rather more toward the combative aspects which explains why the matches were not as "pretty" as what is usually seen in a formal FMA setting. Plus our rules were not as limited. We wanted to keep it as closely intense as possible. Sparring all-out with minimal protective gear down to only a fencing mask and hockey gloves while being fully aware of the risks involved, as a result, we grew to become more respectful of what we were training and toward each other. I KNEW it was not really my place to have typed anything about this tournament. I had no ground to stand on in the matter, therefore I extend my apologies to those who felt my post to be offensive. My sincere respects go out to the promoters and participants for this event. Even I myself do not have any experience in any 'real-world' stickfighting tournament much less practicing Arnis in a formal family setting. My background applies more towards the "rough and tumble" type and my nature is honed for the ugliness that lurk in the streets. Perhaps one of these days, I may look forward to participating in the sportive side of our art and I'm sure I will have lots of fun at it. In fact by this next coming Sunday, November 26th, there will be such a meet in Houston Texas hosted by the Houston Stick Fighting Association. This is the first meet ever and it is not really a tournament but more like a gathering and exchange of skill via full-contact sparring matches with FMA and other martial arts weapons players. I surely do plan on having fun at this event. Respectfully, Daniel Arola from the Hardcore division Al Sardinas wrote: Ray, first of all, thanks for bringing the list back up. Cold turkey does not do me well. Regarding the rules of the Annual LA Open Full Contact Stick Fighting Tournament being held in December, they serve a purpose. I attended this event back in 2004 and indeed this event is a full contact stick fighting event and Mr. Klimanis is right that this "a fun tournament in which fighters spar to exhaustion". However, let me provide more info on this full contact stick fighting Padded competition. This event is geared for the whole family. The competitors are both female and male with ages ranging from elementary students to college students to just plain adults. The spectators consists of moms and dads, brothers and sisters, lolos and lolas and everybody else. Therefore, the rules of no punching, grappling, thrusting, abusive language, spitting, etc. are most appropriate. This tournament is well attended and draws a diversified group of FMA systems. Events like this one ensure that there will be a Filipino brotherhood today and tomorrow. As the competitors mature in both age and skill, they will be able to make their choice to participate in more so-called hard core events. So rate this event G: General Admission - good event for the entire family. Also, Mr. Arola, I have seen many clips that you have produced and IMHO, the participants lack real-world stick fighting experience. However, I do enjoy the music. Then again, I could also be completely wrong. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of the Garimot System of Arnis _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2400 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima DAMAG-INC [Daniel Arola Martial Arts Group Inc.] http://www.damag-inc.zoomshare.com --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510,000 Mortgage for $1,698/mo - Calculate new house payment --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 07:45:53 -0800 (PST) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Fighting - Annual LA Open Full Contact Stick Fighting To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mr. Sardinas, good post. For whatever it is worth, there are similar tournaments even in the Phil. The masters who sanction them jokingly call them "pukpukan ng unan" or pillow fights, but acknowledge their place or value or usefulness. As Al pointed out, they draw a huge diverse crowd including children and their family, promote camaraderie and provide exposure to the art. There are other hardcore tournaments to go to if that is what your heart desires or your stage of training demands. Jay de Leon www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com Al Sardinas wrote: Ray, first of all, thanks for bringing the list back up. Cold turkey does not do me well. Regarding the rules of the Annual LA Open Full Contact Stick Fighting Tournament being held in December, they serve a purpose. I attended this event back in 2004 and indeed this event is a full contact stick fighting event and Mr. Klimanis is right that this "a fun tournament in which fighters spar to exhaustion". However, let me provide more info on this full contact stick fighting Padded competition. This event is geared for the whole family. The competitors are both female and male with ages ranging from elementary students to college students to just plain adults. The spectators consists of moms and dads, brothers and sisters, lolos and lolas and everybody else. Therefore, the rules of no punching, grappling, thrusting, abusive language, spitting, etc. are most appropriate. This tournament is well attended and draws a diversified group of FMA systems. Events like this one ensure that there will be a Filipino brotherhood today and tomorrow. As the competitors mature in both age and skill, they will be able to make their choice to participate in more so-called hard core events. So rate this event G: General Admission - good event for the entire family. Also, Mr. Arola, I have seen many clips that you have produced and IMHO, the participants lack real-world stick fighting experience. However, I do enjoy the music. Then again, I could also be completely wrong. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of the Garimot System of Arnis _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2400 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Sponsored Link $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/month - Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? Find Out! --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest